Their the best for fans, if a deal can be made between promoters, i don't understand what the problem is with tournaments.
Is it simply because fighters can gross more money when fight in single events?
Is it because of a bunch of extremely protected fighters that simply want to hand pick opponent and create their own terms don't want to risk a tournament setting?
Could you imagine a tourney for every weight class?
Their the best for fans, if a deal can be made between promoters, i don't understand what the problem is with tournaments.
Because a deal can rarely be made between promoters.
I don't like tournaments. They tie up many boxers and take too long to complete. 8 boxers in a tournament is 4 boxers too many. If the best would fight the best on their own no tournaments would be needed.In most or all weight classes we know who are the 4 best fighters. For instance at middleweight the top 4 are probably GGG, Canelo, Jermall and Jacobs. Just have Jacobs fight Jermall and the winner of that fight fights the winner of the Canelo vs GGG rematch. You will have the real middleweight champ at the end of 3 fights instead of an 8 man tournament that takes many fights an last over a year.
People are more into network/promoter fanaticism now.
They stopped caring about anything. They're not even hard to please. Give them 2-3 meaningful fights a year and they'll say, "Who says boxing is dead?" They even get angry when you question why fighters now fight once a year.
loool so true. Fans have been so taken advantage of we are content with the scraps given.. like a few decent fights a year.
There is enough talent in boxing to have two huge events twice a month...
People are more into network/promoter fanaticism now.
They stopped caring about anything. They're not even hard to please. Give them 2-3 meaningful fights a year and they'll say, "Who says boxing is dead?" They even get angry when you question why fighters now fight once a year.
:lol1: very accurate
People are more into network/promoter fanaticism now.
They stopped caring about anything. They're not even hard to please. Give them 2-3 meaningful fights a year and they'll say, "Who says boxing is dead?" They even get angry when you question why fighters now fight once a year.
This is why Gold medals mean so much. It's proof that you really are the best of the best.
It's a logistical nightmare. Any tournament worth watching would be an absolute dogfight between Promoters.
A decent tournament would have to play out over a decent length of time, getting fighters on board with that (and bypassing whatever plan they have in place) is hard enough. If there are titles involved, you'd have mandatories kicking up a stink because they aren't getting their rightful shot. You've got Promoters with existing network deals that may have to be bypassed to accommodate whatever agreements the tournament organizer have in place. You've got Fighters and Promoters who aren't interested in running any kind of gauntlet of fighters, and having no interest in letting someone else take another slice of the pie - because whoever is organizing it will want to take revenue. Unless it's done as a one-Org tournament, which significantly reduces the talent pool.
I don't think the above points even cover half of it.
Damn, well said!
it's just not practical in pro boxing. these guys do this for money and for no other reason. nobody would box if their opponents were mandated based on something other than profitability. these guys can beat each other to the death. no other sport is dependent on head and body trauma to score fights and determine winners.
just look at the SS. taylors career was ended. kessler went damn near blind. abraham took consecutive losses and was never the same fighter.
one guy came out on top, andre ward. but he broke his hand, and ended up in beef with his promotor trying to get more money and out of matchmaking like that.
because boxing is bullsh1t and barely a sport.
I don't even know I can call it a sport.
Only at the Olympic level is it a sport. In everything else it's a smoke a mirror **** show
It's a logistical nightmare. Any tournament worth watching would be an absolute dogfight between Promoters.
A decent tournament would have to play out over a decent length of time, getting fighters on board with that (and bypassing whatever plan they have in place) is hard enough. If there are titles involved, you'd have mandatories kicking up a stink because they aren't getting their rightful shot. You've got Promoters with existing network deals that may have to be bypassed to accommodate whatever agreements the tournament organizer have in place. You've got Fighters and Promoters who aren't interested in running any kind of gauntlet of fighters, and having no interest in letting someone else take another slice of the pie - because whoever is organizing it will want to take revenue. Unless it's done as a one-Org tournament, which significantly reduces the talent pool.
I don't think the above points even cover half of it.