Luis Ortiz Demands Apology From WBC As He Is "Legally Taking" Blood Pressure Meds

With all that said I still want to see him fight Wilder LOL...well there ya go...so do I. You have to admit...Conte does make a pretty good case for it (I assume you watched the video).

a professional athlete with high blood pressure isn't a good look, he should cure it naturally it literally takes one month!

It was his own fault for not reporting the use of these meds to VADA prior to testing. It's also his own fault that he was caught once before actually taking PEDs, so he will always be under suspicion. I'm guessing Wilder will still fight him as scheduled.

we can both stop faking the front by you proving how wrong i am by supplying just one link i requested. still waitingLink for what, Lmmfao. You can't be this thick! It's your pride doe lol. Defending your pride can be a *****!!! Lol

im asking for unbiased scientific links.....surely you can supply ONE your words dont mean much. I have never met an absolute con man sticking to this weak argument like you before, lmao. Football players get stronger, tennis players, bball players and baseball players. But according to you boxers don't benefit from PEDs. I wonder why they even created a list of PEDS that boxers can't use since they don't benefit from them lmao. Only boxing

Here is the WBC clean boxing program rules and forms from the WBC website in Spanish http://wbcboxing.com/WBCVADAESP/ You're given a form to fill out of medications/supplements you're currently taking. I'm 100% sure the WBC, based in Mexico, has those forms in Spanish Turns out the form he was given to sign was in English & French. Check out the video RussTBE posted.

the ol ''ill answer a question with a question or 2 of my own'' routine :fing02: unbiased scientific links are still pending :lol1: I knew his mofo had no real answer lmao.

Making up which part? Because nothing you posted contradicted anything we said. NSAC is the sole agency that can grant an exemption to NSAC rules, but IV wasn't against NSAC rules and therefore no exemption was needed. Notice Bennett never claimed that Mayweather needed an NSAC exemption. He's using strong words that are ultimately meaningless. That's what you do when you're doing damage control when there is public outrage caused by a misleading article written by somebody literally on HBO's payroll. Does not have the authority to issue an exemption to NSAC rules. But obviously USADA has the authority to issue an exemption TO THEIR OWN RULE!!! Use your brain for a second. If Floyd had violated NSAC rules, and only NSAC can issue an exemption for NSAC rules (something we all agree on), why didn't NSAC sanction Floyd? After all, we're all in agreement that only NSAC can exempt NSAC policy and USADA made it clear they were not exempting NSAC policy, only USADA policy. So your position doesn't make any sense. Because clearly USADA has the authority to issue an exemption for USADA. Nobody is claiming USADA has the authority to issue an exemption for NSAC. So if IV was illegal in Nevada, and USADA clearly couldn't exempt a Nevada rule, why did Nevada say Floyd didn't break the rules? Clearly it wasn't against the rules in Nevada. You're just being fooled by Bennett by taking his outrage at face value without bothering to think about the actual meaning of the words he's saying. So he's unhappy that he was blindsided by the article from the person on HBO's payroll. So he issues a strongly worded (and meaningless) statement criticizing USADA so the public thinks the NSAC looks tough. While distracting the public from the fact that IV was 100% legal in Nevada, something that was well known at the time and clearly stated by USADA and never refuted by NSAC. You're arguing here with NSAC executive director Bob Bennett FFS's...not me. You are a very strange troll.

You're making this crap up... Making up which part? Because nothing you posted contradicted anything we said. “As far as USADA, I was extremely disappointed that I wasn't notified right away. When it comes to TUE, we are the sole agency that approves the administering of TUEs. NSAC is the sole agency that can grant an exemption to NSAC rules, but IV wasn't against NSAC rules and therefore no exemption was needed. Notice Bennett never claimed that Mayweather needed an NSAC exemption. He's using strong words that are ultimately meaningless. That's what you do when you're doing damage control when there is public outrage caused by a misleading article written by somebody literally on HBO's payroll. 'USADA, nor any other anti-doping agency that does drug testing, doesn't have the authority to administer a TUE.' Does not have the authority to issue an exemption to NSAC rules. But obviously USADA has the authority to issue an exemption TO THEIR OWN RULE!!! Use your brain for a second. If Floyd had violated NSAC rules, and only NSAC can issue an exemption for NSAC rules (something we all agree on), why didn't NSAC sanction Floyd? After all, we're all in agreement that only NSAC can exempt NSAC policy and USADA made it clear they were not exempting NSAC policy, only USADA policy. So your position doesn't make any sense. Because clearly USADA has the authority to issue an exemption for USADA. Nobody is claiming USADA has the authority to issue an exemption for NSAC. So if IV was illegal in Nevada, and USADA clearly couldn't exempt a Nevada rule, why did Nevada say Floyd didn't break the rules? Clearly it wasn't against the rules in Nevada. You're just being fooled by Bennett by taking his outrage at face value without bothering to think about the actual meaning of the words he's saying. “The bottom line is USADA didn't keep us informed, which is totally unacceptable and unprofessional.” So he's unhappy that he was blindsided by the article from the person on HBO's payroll. So he issues a strongly worded (and meaningless) statement criticizing USADA so the public thinks the NSAC looks tough. While distracting the public from the fact that IV was 100% legal in Nevada, something that was well known at the time and clearly stated by USADA and never refuted by NSAC.

Could it be possible he didn't know it? Like, what is SOP with VADA communicating with fighters? If he can provide proof he has a blood pressure issue, I think an exemption is in order. If this was Bam Bam Rios and he said he had a doctors note for Diuretics, sure --- scrutinize him. He been making some very questionable weight alterations throughout his career. But a HW who doesn't need to make weight, I dunno man. I think we need to learn more before hanging the dude out to dry. Does this cat even speak English? I don;t know jack about this guy so forgive my ignorance in advance people. this is a very good post and I think it should be done what mcnulty is saying. Why not check it and find out once and for all wether this is Ortiz's fault or not. It is very easy to find out!

this is good news for Anthony Joshua and his fans. 1 less guy he has to deal with

No he doesn't speak a lick of English also did you know that this is his 2nd failed drug test Its either his 3rd or 4th I thought???!

You're misunderstanding several fundamental facts (which isn't necessarily your fault as the media did a horrible job of accurately reporting the story). #1 - NSAC wasn't notified because at the time, IVs, in any amount, for any reason, were 100% legal under NSAC rules. There was no reason to notify the NSAC about something allowed under their rules. #2 - The purpose of a retroactive exemption is to allow the athlete's representatives ample time to properly present their case and to allow the agency ample time to consider their case. OF COURSE it was filed after the fight. An athlete's lawyers are not going to rush a filing that if filed improperly or not adequately presenting his position could result in ruining the athlete's life. Retroactive exemption exists so nobody has to decide anything in the heat of the moment. The athlete doesn't have to wait for medical treatment and they then have time after the fact to prove the treatment was legitimate. But the key is to do everything with the knowledge of the agency and to not hide anything from the agency. USADA was aware of Floyd's IV because the USADA DCO was with Floyd the entire day and Floyd never left their sight. USADA was expecting the filing and ruled once they had it. There was nothing unusual about any of this other than Hauser, who was being paid by HBO, writing a hit piece to purposely confuse the public about the proper protocols. You're making this crap up... This from NSAC executive director Bob Bennett... “As far as USADA, I was extremely disappointed that I wasn't notified right away. When it comes to TUE, we are the sole agency that approves the administering of TUEs. 'USADA, nor any other anti-doping agency that does drug testing, doesn't have the authority to administer a TUE.' “The bottom line is USADA didn't keep us informed, which is totally unacceptable and unprofessional.” http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/floyd-mayweather-received-injection-day-6419772

No he doesn't speak a lick of English also did you know that this is his 2nd failed drug test No I did not. Just Googled it, Nandrolone aka Deca which is a very long lasting oil based steroid. Only an idiot would take that in Boxing. Here is the WBC clean boxing program rules and forms from the WBC website in Spanish http://wbcboxing.com/WBCVADAESP/ You're given a form to fill out of medications/supplements you're currently taking. I'm 100% sure the WBC, based in Mexico, has those forms in Spanish Thanks. Safe to say Ortiz is an idiot. Get caught dirty, you got to be proactive in the future for integrity's sake.

Could it be possible he didn't know it? Like, what is SOP with VADA communicating with fighters? If he can provide proof he has a blood pressure issue, I think an exemption is in order. If this was Bam Bam Rios and he said he had a doctors note for Diuretics, sure --- scrutinize him. He been making some very questionable weight alterations throughout his career. But a HW who doesn't need to make weight, I dunno man. I think we need to learn more before hanging the dude out to dry. Does this cat even speak English? I don;t know jack about this guy so forgive my ignorance in advance people. No he doesn't speak a lick of English also did you know that this is his 2nd failed drug test

Does this cat even speak English? I don;t know jack about this guy so forgive my ignorance in advance people. That's actually a good point...I don't think he does. I seem to remember him always speaking through an interpreter.

It's not a crime. But he must report it to the WBC/VADA. There is a list of banned substances. This is on the list. His team was supposed to report it. He knows that. Could it be possible he didn't know it? Like, what is SOP with VADA communicating with fighters? If he can provide proof he has a blood pressure issue, I think an exemption is in order. If this was Bam Bam Rios and he said he had a doctors note for Diuretics, sure --- scrutinize him. He been making some very questionable weight alterations throughout his career. But a HW who doesn't need to make weight, I dunno man. I think we need to learn more before hanging the dude out to dry. Does this cat even speak English? I don;t know jack about this guy so forgive my ignorance in advance people.

true. i dont pay attention to non facts. and by facts, i mean unbiased scientific links. not some witch hunter spewing hyperbole. still waitingThe only thing unbiased is YOU! Do PEDs work in other sports? And if they do then why not boxing???

Ok, let me stop you right there. You are either misinformed or lying. The facts will clearly show which of us is misinformed. Let's continue . . . NSAC actually challenged the USADA on allowing Mayweather the use of an IV pre fight/post weigh in. USADA does not have the authority to over ride NSAC rules. If the IV was against NSAC rules, USADA would not have jurisdiction to grant a TUE. USADA can't grant a TUE for something that is against NSAC rules. If Mayweather had violated NSAC rules, NSAC would have punished Mayweather. USADA would have no authority to prevent NSAC from doing so, TUE or not. Why if the NSAC allows it did they challenge the USADA on this? NSAC didn't challenge the use. NSAC complained about not being informed because it allowed Hauser to make them look bad with his misleading article. https://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/USADAs-Detailed-Correction-to-SB-Nation-Article-by-Tom-Hauser.pdf NSAC advised Mr. Hauser, IVs are not prohibited in the NSAC rules. As such, there was no need for Mr. Mayweather to apply to NSAC for a TUE for the use of IVs. The answer is simple, because, because for IV use, especially of the high amounts it is claimed that Mayweather used, one must have a TUE, and then it needs to be overseen by the chief NASC medical expert. You're wrong on multiple fronts. First of all, the IV was the equivalent of a small water bottle. It was not a high amount. Second of all, a TUE was only required due to Floyd & Manny's voluntary agreement to seek USADA approval for IV. NSAC rules had nothing to do with it. It was completely legal under NSAC rules, which NSAC informed Hauser of after his article. Something Hauser knew. He just played dumb in his article because HBO was paying him to smear Mayweather.