Why Was Maidanas Dirty Fighting Applauded???

Cuz nobody really likes Floyd at the end of day

At 5:14 Maidana throws a Muay-Thai knee and gets away with it! But since it's Floyd he was just "not taking no for an answer" :lol1: Imagine if Mayweather or Ward did that in a fight. People would be crying and complaining left and right. I cannot view the video but I'm presuming that it didn't hurt or even connect, right? Or you want Floyd's opponents to be deducted points even when they do not touch Floyd? A La, Ricky Hatton? :pat: .

At 5:14 Maidana throws a Muay-Thai knee and gets away with it! But since it's Floyd he was just "not taking no for an answer" :lol1: Imagine if Mayweather or Ward did that in a fight. People would be crying and complaining left and right.

I feel like a broken record repeating the same sh*t to both sides. Low blows, dirty fighting. This is the pro game. You lot and the GGG/PAC boys are so annoying. Man the f*ck up, seriously!. If the referee doesn't call it get on with it. Protect yourself at all times. Boxing's been around for thousands of years. Dark arts have been used through the ages. Floyd and his fans were crying after Maidana I fight. The poster above you even brings it up. If the VEGAS judges fairly gave Maidana his credit, Floyd and his fans would still be complaining that Maidana won or got a draw due to Maidana's dirty tactics. Floyd and his fans were hoping to get a different ref for fight 2, so the ref can protect the fragile Floyd and deduct points from Maidana. They got what they wanted .... even the point deduction!!!

point was, everyone was okay with it n applauded it and said he should have won. the fact he didn't win isn't the point, ur complaining about ward being dirty yet when it was maidana it was amazing??? what is there to explain? all u guys are going to do is what this guy did. be unfair and unreasonable. hard to understand how boxing fans spend all their lifes bashing boxers. I favor particular styles but overall I respect them all because ive actually trained and fought before, its not easy at all and the level of disrespect you all show these professionals is beyond tacky. What people liked about Maidana is that he was supposed to be a cherry pick (lost the cherry picking contest to Khan but Floyd still picked him) but he actually came to fight. It wasn't about Maidana's dirty tactics ... nobody was saying, kick Floyd with your knees which by the way, never hit Floyd! Nobody congratulated Maidana when he got him to the ground. nor did they care for biting Floyd's hand, if that happened in their second encounter. People were just impressed with how he dominated those rounds where he threw a volume of punches in Floyd's direction. What happened is that Floyd and his fans complained about Maidana's dirty tactics and that for the rematch, they needed a ref that was ready to deduct points from Maidana. The response was as expected. because, Floyd does his share and does not get points deducted and had advantages going into the fight (removed Maidana's gloves) ... but as I had stated in that post, if Maidana should get a point deducted, cool ... no problem. So your original response was uncalled for. Here is Floyd doing this (elbow and according to Maidana an illegal punch) and Floyd gets warned for the elbow (good) BUT just seconds later, Floyd did it again flagrantly but no points deducted. Minutes later, Maidana gets a point deducted. Floyd fans are OK with that. Right? https://i.imgur.com/RfeSOXo.gif Seconds later, Floyd does it again flagrantly but no points deducted! https://i.imgur.com/3cYFPRH.gif

You can at the very least explain .... unless you just wanted all of us to just agree with you. Maidana gets his share of points deducted. Ward? . point was, everyone was okay with it n applauded it and said he should have won. the fact he didn't win isn't the point, ur complaining about ward being dirty yet when it was maidana it was amazing??? what is there to explain? all u guys are going to do is what this guy did. be unfair and unreasonable. hard to understand how boxing fans spend all their lifes bashing boxers. I favor particular styles but overall I respect them all because ive actually trained and fought before, its not easy at all and the level of disrespect you all show these professionals is beyond tacky.

Your post is somewhat confusing. You bring up Maidana as a dirty fighter then when you bring up other names you say "what's the big deal?" So then why did you bring up Maidana? Maidana dirty: While I think the ref should call both sides, there is a point that must be made. Maidana dirty, often doesn't change the outcome of the fight. Kicking, biting, tripping, pushing at a point where it was not meant to stop the opponent from using his offense is quite different than using illegal tactics to stop your opponent from his offense. Ward dirty: There is meaning to his dirty play. It's to stop his opponent from countering effectively. Stopping his opponent from punching. If done right, can be called a punch instead of what it was (elbow, head but)! It can injure the opponent in a way that can change the fight (eg. head but producing cuts over the eyes)! Ward often throws HIS PUNCH then HOLDs ON to his opponent or ELBOWS his opponent. This dissuades or removes any possibility of countering. Ward's dirty play changes outcomes of a fight. Also takes away from the fight's action and so on. Maidana's type of dirty play more often than not just gets him points deducted!!! :doh: Go look at Ward vs Kessler fight for example. Kessler was a mess due to Ward's head-buts. Cuts over both eyes and no points deducted. In their fight, Floyd gives Maidana obvious back to back elbows at Maidana and no points deducted ... Minutes later, Maidana trips up a Floyd that was off balance perhaps and gets a point deducted. Showtime analysts didn't even think that there should have been a point deducted. Ref said after the fight that he had recently in a previous fight deducted 2 points in 1 fight on Maidana and was ready to deduct points on Maidana. Same ref closes his eyes to Floyd's past elbows, head-locks, forearms, hugs. As I said in another thread. It's a 10 point system. Refs should use that to deduct points and then you would see BOTH types of fighters reduce their dirty tactics .... but as I stated, right now, only the Maidanas get points deducted. Ward instead won using those tactics!!! . u guys are pathetic You can at the very least explain .... unless you just wanted all of us to just agree with you. Maidana gets his share of points deducted. Ward? .

Maidana was no more dirty than Floyd. Mayweather loves to use forearms and elbows, clinches, pushes off, etc. Floyd got out-hustled and cried to the ref like a b!tch though. Even after threatening to cancel the fight over legal gloves that Marcos wanted to wear. Same gloves he wore in previous fights.

You know why

Wasn't even that dirty, the only gripe I have with it is some rabbit punches. Dirty is Horn vs Pacquiao, Sanchez vs Pacquiao, Ward vs an assortment of foes, Salido vs Lomachenko.

maidana is a super limited fighter. all he does is punch hard and have a good chin and power to recover. ward is not. he does everything but punch exceptionally well. of course it's going to rub people the wrong way when an elite guy who doesn't have to resort to headbutts or low blows is headbutting or low blowing. i mean FFS the guy literally ended the fight with a blatant low blow. for some reason that doesn't compute with some people :lol1:. he was landing other punches doe. he a better fighter doe. not f#cking relevant doe! it was a low blow.... doe! no, we shouldn't excuse maidana, but we should get a better idea of why he was rough on the ropes with floyd. he had to be to get anything done. ward could have finished the kovalev fight cleanly. but he low blowed and the fight was called off. blame the ref primarily. weeks f#cked up big time, and he knows it. that he's been so insulated from scrutiny is a vegas thing and a boxing thing. can you imagine a championship level event ending in a foul in another sport and the ref being so protected from scrutiny? correct me if i am wrong, but has the commission even admitted that the fight was stopped on a foul? You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to New England again. Just know i tried to Green K ya lol

In his first fight with Floyd Jr??? The majority of you all had him winning the fight and he fought dirty as hell and was urged on by his trainer to fight dirty... But now that one of the greats of our time is retiring all we see is threads complaining about how dirty he was from the same posters who took this stance? Harry Greb was dirty but great as were alot of the greats were... Henry Armstrong, Muhammad Ali, Jack Dempsey, George Foreman, etc all had dirt in their arsenal... Whats the big deal? Number of reasons IMO. Obviously, its part Floyd. Posters could care less what is done so long as Floyd loses or is in close enough so they can claim the other guy won and floyd has really lost. part of it is Ward retired undefeated so the only way fans of the guys he beat can get back at him is to focus just on the headbutts and lowblows and make them play more significance than they really did. Part of it is the guys criticizing Ward are doing so for reasons we both know. If we call these posters out then we are "race baiting". Part of it is trolling Ward fans.

You didn't answer the question. lol. Come on, dude. Maidana went far and beyond in the dirty department in that fight. Why does it matter if he butted to a win. The point is he TRIED TO head butt, low blow, rabbit punch, bite, knee, arm bend, and whatever else dirty to win. Did he not? ----Edit---- Forgot that football tackle :lol1: i did answer your question, they were both dirty, not just maidana. OP comparing marcos dirtiness to ward's is silly.

maidana is a super limited fighter. all he does is punch hard and have a good chin and power to recover. ward is not. he does everything but punch exceptionally well. of course it's going to rub people the wrong way when an elite guy who doesn't have to resort to headbutts or low blows is headbutting or low blowing. i mean FFS the guy literally ended the fight with a blatant low blow. for some reason that doesn't compute with some people :lol1:. he was landing other punches doe. he a better fighter doe. not f#cking relevant doe! it was a low blow.... doe! no, we shouldn't excuse maidana, but we should get a better idea of why he was rough on the ropes with floyd. he had to be to get anything done. ward could have finished the kovalev fight cleanly. but he low blowed and the fight was called off. blame the ref primarily. weeks f#cked up big time, and he knows it. that he's been so insulated from scrutiny is a vegas thing and a boxing thing. can you imagine a championship level event ending in a foul in another sport and the ref being so protected from scrutiny? correct me if i am wrong, but has the commission even admitted that the fight was stopped on a foul?

Who the F applauded Maidanas dirty tactics? lol!

I hate to bring up the race card but that's the reason for the hypocrisy. When Maidana was dirty it was "Wow he's so aggressive and rugged!" When Ward landed a low blow or held and hit people said "He only wins because he's dirty". It's total hypocrisy and I don't think Ward was a dirty fighter. It's just that he was always fighting on the inside so there was bound to be head-clashes and sometimes holding and hitting. I remember an interview with him where he said he doesn't want to do these things but if the opponent does it he will do it back. Which I think is understandable. Obviously it's not why he was successful, that's total BS. It takes a lot more than that and Ward was a complete fighter. People also didn't criticize Maidana for being dirty because he was doing it to Floyd and obviously a lot of people hate Floyd so they just wanted to see him lose. Didn't matter if the guy bit him, threw muay-thai style knees or whatever. It's Floyd so he got a pass. People knew he was dirty and breaking the rules but they didn't care.Very well said.

Just for clarification, are you saying that Floyd was just as dirty as Maidana in that fight? they were both dirty. no denial now since OP is talking about ward, when has maidana butted the crap of his opponents to win a fight?

yeah, because floyd is the cleanest fighter in the world :lol1: chino was fighting fire with fire. ward is dirty, that's the way people will remember him. deal with it. when has chino won a fight butting the crap out of his opponent? tell me.

Your post is somewhat confusing. You bring up Maidana as a dirty fighter then when you bring up other names you say "what's the big deal?" So then why did you bring up Maidana? Maidana dirty: While I think the ref should call both sides, there is a point that must be made. Maidana dirty, often doesn't change the outcome of the fight. Kicking, biting, tripping, pushing at a point where it was not meant to stop the opponent from using his offense is quite different than using illegal tactics to stop your opponent from his offense. Ward dirty: There is meaning to his dirty play. It's to stop his opponent from countering effectively. Stopping his opponent from punching. If done right, can be called a punch instead of what it was (elbow, head but)! It can injure the opponent in a way that can change the fight (eg. head but producing cuts over the eyes)! Ward often throws HIS PUNCH then HOLDs ON to his opponent or ELBOWS his opponent. This dissuades or removes any possibility of countering. Ward's dirty play changes outcomes of a fight. Also takes away from the fight's action and so on. Maidana's type of dirty play more often than not just gets him points deducted!!! :doh: Go look at Ward vs Kessler fight for example. Kessler was a mess due to Ward's head-buts. Cuts over both eyes and no points deducted. In their fight, Floyd gives Maidana obvious back to back elbows at Maidana and no points deducted ... Minutes later, Maidana trips up a Floyd that was off balance perhaps and gets a point deducted. Showtime analysts didn't even think that there should have been a point deducted. Ref said after the fight that he had recently in a previous fight deducted 2 points in 1 fight on Maidana and was ready to deduct points on Maidana. Same ref closes his eyes to Floyd's past elbows, head-locks, forearms, hugs. As I said in another thread. It's a 10 point system. Refs should use that to deduct points and then you would see BOTH types of fighters reduce their dirty tactics .... but as I stated, right now, only the Maidanas get points deducted. Ward instead won using those tactics!!! . u guys are pathetic

In his first fight with Floyd Jr??? The majority of you all had him winning the fight and he fought dirty as hell and was urged on by his trainer to fight dirty... But now that one of the greats of our time is retiring all we see is threads complaining about how dirty he was from the same posters who took this stance? Harry Greb was dirty but great as were alot of the greats were... Henry Armstrong, Muhammad Ali, Jack Dempsey, George Foreman, etc all had dirt in their arsenal... Whats the big deal? Your post is somewhat confusing. You bring up Maidana as a dirty fighter then when you bring up other names you say "what's the big deal?" So then why did you bring up Maidana? Maidana dirty: While I think the ref should call both sides, there is a point that must be made. Maidana dirty, often doesn't change the outcome of the fight. Kicking, biting, tripping, pushing at a point where it was not meant to stop the opponent from using his offense is quite different than using illegal tactics to stop your opponent from his offense. Ward dirty: There is meaning to his dirty play. It's to stop his opponent from countering effectively. Stopping his opponent from punching. If done right, can be called a punch instead of what it was (elbow, head but)! It can injure the opponent in a way that can change the fight (eg. head but producing cuts over the eyes)! Ward often throws HIS PUNCH then HOLDs ON to his opponent or ELBOWS his opponent. This dissuades or removes any possibility of countering. Ward's dirty play changes outcomes of a fight. Also takes away from the fight's action and so on. Maidana's type of dirty play more often than not just gets him points deducted!!! :doh: Go look at Ward vs Kessler fight for example. Kessler was a mess due to Ward's head-buts. Cuts over both eyes and no points deducted. In their fight, Floyd gives Maidana obvious back to back elbows at Maidana and no points deducted ... Minutes later, Maidana trips up a Floyd that was off balance perhaps and gets a point deducted. Showtime analysts didn't even think that there should have been a point deducted. Ref said after the fight that he had recently in a previous fight deducted 2 points in 1 fight on Maidana and was ready to deduct points on Maidana. Same ref closes his eyes to Floyd's past elbows, head-locks, forearms, hugs. As I said in another thread. It's a 10 point system. Refs should use that to deduct points and then you would see BOTH types of fighters reduce their dirty tactics .... but as I stated, right now, only the Maidanas get points deducted. Ward instead won using those tactics!!! .