I'd agree with you that Jacobs is a B, B- fighter, in the same category as Golovkin. Canelo is better, with a B+. These days, there aren't really any truly great/elite A or A+ fighters anymore (with the exception of maybe Andre Ward).
I'm not counting the up and comers like Spence, Usyk, Crawford, Davis, etc.. They still have a lot more to prove.
That's understandable. I feel we use the 'eye test' a little too much without using resume.
I'd agree with you that Jacobs is a B, B- fighter, in the same category as Golovkin. Canelo is better, with a B+. These days, there aren't really any truly great/elite A or A+ fighters anymore (with the exception of maybe Andre Ward).
I'm not counting the up and comers like Spence, Usyk, Crawford, Davis, etc.. They still have a lot more to prove.
lol @ Crawford doesn't have any great wins
lol @ Comparing Mora to Gamboa
You're right man. Virtually everyone else on the planet who rates Crawford and Canelo in the top 10 P4P and not Jacobs, and who rate Spence and Thurman above Jacobs is wrong and you are right.
We're all in on a giant, worldwide conspiracy to underrate Jacobs.
What great win does Crawford have?
Crawford got hurt by gamboa and he doesn't have any great wins. But yet you consistently rank him top 3 to top 5. Explain that?
Your logic, posts, threads, and general existence on NSB is idiotic. Explain that?
Crawford got hurt by gamboa and he doesn't have any great wins. But yet you consistently rank him top 3 to top 5. Explain that?
lol @ Crawford doesn't have any great wins
lol @ Comparing Mora to Gamboa
You're right man. Virtually everyone else on the planet who rates Crawford and Canelo in the top 10 P4P and not Jacobs, and who rate Spence and Thurman above Jacobs is wrong and you are right.
We're all in on a giant, worldwide conspiracy to underrate Jacobs.
What kinda logic is that?
Spence and Thurman have better wins, at least imo. And neither got hurt by a Mora level puncher.
I just don't see it.
Crawford got hurt by gamboa and he doesn't have any great wins. But yet you consistently rank him top 3 to top 5. Explain that?
If Spence and Thurman are A-Level then Jacobs is A-Level.
What kinda logic is that?
Spence and Thurman have better wins, at least imo. And neither got hurt by a Mora level puncher.
I just don't see it.
Canelo's resume is much deeper. There is more basis for his A-level standing. KOs and wide wins tend to happen less often against elite opposition.
Jacobs is B+ level imo
Let's put it this way. 0 p4p lists I've seen in the last year have had Jacobs on them (fans, media etc). Every p4p list I've seen in the last year has had Canelo on them. There is a reason for that.
If Spence and Thurman are A-Level then Jacobs is A-Level.
Canelo's resume is much deeper. There is more basis for his A-level standing. KOs and wide wins tend to happen less often against elite opposition.
Jacobs is B+ level imo
Let's put it this way. 0 p4p lists I've seen in the last year have had Jacobs on them (fans, media etc). Every p4p list I've seen in the last year has had Canelo on them. There is a reason for that.
You won't get any conclusive outcome when it comes to anything that relates to lil G, as haters refer to him as.
Jacobs is B level when it's about denigrating GGG's win.
He's suddenly A level when it comes to exposing GGG.
Haters must be tired of trying to come up with something to hate "lil G" on.
They're both on the same level. Jacobs size, reach, and athleticism worked better against Golovkin. Canelo did better boxing Golovkin. Jacobs had more success but he also had a solid game plan. Canelo's game plan was get to the ropes and attempt to rope a dope.
I don't believe Jacobs is in their level. In a rematch with GGG, I see GGG winning more clear. I think Jacobs won't respect GGG as much and will likely be knocked out bc he don't have a solid chin or Canelo's defense. As far as Canelo goes, this was his first REAL fight at 160, and against the best and most dangerous. He will only get better with time. Jacobs is B level at best, and naturally bigger than the division, where Canelo is on the come up. Plus above all, styles makes fights; for example Chino did better against Mayweather than Canelo did; would that make him better?... he1l no
They are both A level fighters. Most of the fighters discussed on this board are all A level fighters with maybe a few B's mixed in. Some of the guys you people call bums or C level fighters is astounding.