Jacobs beat triple L

Do you follow boxing or just repeat the lil g fans? do YOU follow boxing? U know damn well canelo's b!tch a$$, hoe a$$ didnt wanna fight GGG next, he was trying to get away but Golden Boy sat his a$$ down and talked some sense into him. Listen to the post fight press conference and let me know if Im lying.

He just said that to save face. Deep down he know he lost. Keep telling yourself that.

Umm Canelo wont do it in May bruh, you should know this by now. Probably may 2019 or never with his b!tch a$$ getting that whooping I dont think he is keen to get in there again. Do you follow boxing or just repeat the lil g fans?

Omg, that was a robbery? Ok, you've shown enough bias toward the euro-asian fighters for me. Yes, that was a robbery. The primary criteria when judging a boxing bout is who landed the more effective punches, which was Ruslan Provodnikov. Thus, he deserved to win despite losing officially. Barring point deductions, a boxer simply can't be called a 'deserved' winner if he gets out landed by his opponent in the 'effective punching' department. Also, what the hell are you on about in regards to me being bias toward euro-asian fighters? Roy Jones Jr is my all time favorite boxer and I believe he'd beat anybody from 160 - 175 pounds in the history of boxing. Mike Tyson is probably my favorite heavyweight of all time and I believe he'd beat any heavyweight in history during his prime, except perhaps the Klitschko brothers. It just happens to be that the current ex Soviet bloc boxers are better and more skilled than boxers from other regions. That doesn't mean I have anything personal against boxers from other regions. Not at all!

Indeed. The true big fight test of skills at 160 is Jacobs Alvarez as they've granted GGGump consecutive losses (imo). Hmm. Will this fight happen before either of them rematch Gennady?

Yes, Algieri technically lost the fight against Ruslan Provodnikov even though Algieri won officially on the scorecards. It's called a ROBERRY! Omg, that was a robbery? Ok, you've shown enough bias toward the euro-asian fighters for me.

Seriously, if you want to believe this https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Qib-M259MTc/maxresdefault.jpg Is worse than this http://www.************.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ggg8-1.jpg Guess it's not an allowed site, but it's at boxin_news24 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Vt0Clz1KSxA/maxresdefault.jpg There's that one too That's fine, but the punches landed was way off, as Robbie has a thread already showing missed punches counted in a pathetic way... you and I know compubox is not a reliable system Again, you're continuously showing me visible facial damage when both guys were marked up. That is not comparable to Golovkin vs Jacobs because Golovkin was barely marked up at all in that fight whilst in the Canelo vs Golovkin fight, both guys were marked up. Try again! Furthermore, visible facial damage is one out of 4 or 5 other methods that can be used to determine punch effectiveness. So that ALONE doesn't indicate the winner of a bout. Also, I didn't use compubox stats to base my conclusions. So why are you mentioning it for? Golovkin still landed more EFFECTIVE punches in total, despite also missing more. Thus, he won because the main criteria in which a bout is judged by when it goes to the scorecards is 'effective punches' landed. Not who made who miss more. That's a secondary criteria.

Did you ever see Algeri vs Providnikov? This guy was knocked down, not once, but SEVERAL times....AND {drumroll} look at his face http://static.boxrec.com/thumb/9/9b/Algieri.jpg/300px-Algieri.jpg No way he won right Yes, Algieri technically lost the fight against Ruslan Provodnikov even though Algieri won officially on the scorecards. It's called a ROBERRY!

Well it looked like GGG had more damages to the face. Canelo looks liked he's got rug burn, golovkin has actual swelling and bruising imo.

Did you ever see Algeri vs Providnikov? This guy was knocked down, not once, but SEVERAL times....AND {drumroll} look at his face http://static.boxrec.com/thumb/9/9b/Algieri.jpg/300px-Algieri.jpg No way he won right I realize you weren't addressing me but my point is simple, and it's being made complicated. People can believe whatever they want, but the fight was a draw, it will forever be a draw. In 1 year it weill be a draw, in 100 years, it will be a draw. The face thing is simply because people will say "this guy won/lost...look at their faces". That's when it fits THEIR own agenda, whern it doesn't? Well then it's "bu bu but look at the punch stats doe" if not that it's "but he landed the better punches". The facts are the judges have NO access to the flawed punch stats from compubox for a reason. That reason is because punch stats don't tell the whole story. There are several criteria, and the judges must go off of CLEAN EFFECTIVE punching. Not some stupid scoring system thast counts a bunch of missed shots.

Yes, canelos post fight presser, golovkin in the locker room afterward Well it looked like GGG had more damages to the face.

Is this the picture of both of them after this fight? Yes, canelos post fight presser, golovkin in the locker room afterward

Seriously, if you want to believe this https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Qib-M259MTc/maxresdefault.jpg Is worse than this http://www.************.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ggg8-1.jpg Guess it's not an allowed site, but it's at boxin_news24 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Vt0Clz1KSxA/maxresdefault.jpg There's that one too That's fine, but the punches landed was way off, as Robbie has a thread already showing missed punches counted in a pathetic way... you and I know compubox is not a reliable system https://i.ytimg.com/vi/InAqTdvHrts/maxresdefault.jpg https://i.imgur.com/SlvtICk.jpg Is this the hill you want to die on?

Seriously, if you want to believe this https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Qib-M259MTc/maxresdefault.jpg Is worse than this http://www.************.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ggg8-1.jpg Guess it's not an allowed site, but it's at boxin_news24 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Vt0Clz1KSxA/maxresdefault.jpg There's that one too That's fine, but the punches landed was way off, as Robbie has a thread already showing missed punches counted in a pathetic way... you and I know compubox is not a reliable system Is this the picture of both of them after this fight?

Nah he didn't, it was also a close fight but if i remember i had it by two points to GGG.

How come they didn't make much of that all this crying by triple L is getting ridiculous just man up and be happy u didn't get a L as a decision.so Jacobs should be crying the same way triple L is? https://media.giphy.com/media/ZEVc9uplCUJFu/giphy.gif

Actually, it is you who is missing the point. I've already stated that 'visible damage' is 1 out of at least 4 other methods to determine 'punch effectiveness'. Comparing Golovkin vs Daniel Jacobs to Golovkin vs Canelo Alvarez in terms of Golovkin's and his opponent's punch effectiveness isn't mutually analogous. Here is the thing: Golovkin NOT ONLY visibly damaged Daniel Jacob's face, but ALSO dropped him which Daniel Jacobs couldn't do to Golovkin, ALSO stunned him multiple times which Daniel Jacobs couldn't do to Golovkin, ALSO snapped his head back more often than vice versa and ALSO had him backing his whole body up due to his punches more often than vice versa. So there isn't a single criteria in the 'punch effectiveness' department in which he did better than Golovkin. None whatsoever! So even if for argument's sake I accept that Canelo Alvarez inflicted more visible damage to Golovkin's body than vice versa (which I don't agree with by the way), Golovkin still snapped Canelo Alvarez's head back more frequently, Golovkin still had Canelo Alvarez backing up his whole body more frequently due to his punches and Golovkin still landed more total effective punches than Canelo Alvarez. So unlike Daniel Jacobs against Golovkin where there wasn't a single area where he was better in the 'punch effectiveness' department, Golovkin was better than Canelo Alvarez in multiple of those departments. Anyway, I don't even agree that Canelo Alvarez inflicted greater damage on Golovkin than vice versa. At best, it's about equal. Golovkin suffered nearly no visible damage after his fight against Jacobs whereas Canelo Alvarez actually did have multiple marks in his face, even though he also marked up Golovkin's face too. However, he was still outlanded in the 'punch effectiveness' department. So overall, the comparisons are faulty because Golovkin didn't just beat Daniel Jacobs ONLY because of Jacob's face being visibly damaged, but also because of other factors which determine 'punch effectiveness' such as stunning him, dropping him, snapping his head back more frequently and etc. Visible damage is ONLY one out of many other methods to determine 'punch effectiveness'. Seriously, if you want to believe this https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Qib-M259MTc/maxresdefault.jpg Is worse than this http://www.************.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ggg8-1.jpg Guess it's not an allowed site, but it's at boxin_news24 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Vt0Clz1KSxA/maxresdefault.jpg There's that one too That's fine, but the punches landed was way off, as Robbie has a thread already showing missed punches counted in a pathetic way... you and I know compubox is not a reliable system

You are missing the point, which is the fact that when people were saying they felt Jacobs won it was "look at his face doe" the n it was Ward's face...NOW golovkin is the one beat up, but it doesn't matter to them and is unimportant Actually, it is you who is missing the point. I've already stated that 'visible damage' is 1 out of at least 4 other methods to determine 'punch effectiveness'. Comparing Golovkin vs Daniel Jacobs to Golovkin vs Canelo Alvarez in terms of Golovkin's and his opponent's punch effectiveness isn't mutually analogous. Here is the thing: Golovkin NOT ONLY visibly damaged Daniel Jacob's face, but ALSO dropped him which Daniel Jacobs couldn't do to Golovkin, ALSO stunned him multiple times which Daniel Jacobs couldn't do to Golovkin, ALSO snapped his head back more often than vice versa and ALSO had him backing his whole body up due to his punches more often than vice versa. So there isn't a single criteria in the 'punch effectiveness' department in which he did better than Golovkin. None whatsoever! So even if for argument's sake I accept that Canelo Alvarez inflicted more visible damage to Golovkin's body than vice versa (which I don't agree with by the way), Golovkin still snapped Canelo Alvarez's head back more frequently, Golovkin still had Canelo Alvarez backing up his whole body more frequently due to his punches and Golovkin still landed more total effective punches than Canelo Alvarez. So unlike Daniel Jacobs against Golovkin where there wasn't a single area where he was better in the 'punch effectiveness' department, Golovkin was better than Canelo Alvarez in multiple of those departments. Anyway, I don't even agree that Canelo Alvarez inflicted greater damage on Golovkin than vice versa. At best, it's about equal. Golovkin suffered nearly no visible damage after his fight against Jacobs whereas Canelo Alvarez actually did have multiple marks in his face, even though he also marked up Golovkin's face too. However, he was still outlanded in the 'punch effectiveness' department. So overall, the comparisons are faulty because Golovkin didn't just beat Daniel Jacobs ONLY because of Jacob's face being visibly damaged, but also because of other factors which determine 'punch effectiveness' such as stunning him, dropping him, snapping his head back more frequently and etc. Visible damage is ONLY one out of many other methods to determine 'punch effectiveness'.

The knockdown makes it almost impossible for Jacobs to have won that fight. He made it close at but still didn't win imo. I have Jacobs up 2 rds minus 1 point for the kd 114-113 for Danny.

It's COMPLETELY speculative to claim either one was more damaged than the other. Both had different types of damage. However, based on other methods of determining punch effectiveness, it was Golovkin who landed the more effective punches. I could careless about who was pissing more blood. These are not visual cues, unless it happens at some point during the fight when judging the fighters. You are missing the point, which is the fact that when people were saying they felt Jacobs won it was "look at his face doe" the n it was Ward's face...NOW golovkin is the one beat up, but it doesn't matter to them and is unimportant