A neutral's (my) feelings on the fight.

you're an idiot. he arguably lost to canelo tonight and at the very least looked nothing of a ATG or even a HOF. lara did way way better against canelo and foyd shut him out 12 to zip. that was the TS point. what in the total f*ck. Pick another sport to follow. Boxing isn't for you.

The Cream of the Crop fight eachother its rarely a highlight reel KO. It took JMM v Manny IV to get a KO. Tyson couldn't hurt Evander. Canelo highlight KOs are against Kahn and Costco Brand Kirkland. GGGs against second tier euros and a cdn. Point is they are the only ones on the same level at MW. Stymie eachother. I agree with this. My argument is that level isn't as high as most would have you believe, whilst still high. Like I said, I think they're the best in the division, and two of the biggest names in the sport.

I think its judging like this that fvcks over boxing.Only typical in a Alvarez bout.Shocking! A good fight marred by yet more controversy.Ggg by 2round for me. That fvcking 118-110 card legitimately had me reeling. I could have sworn CJ Ross made an appearance.

The Cream of the Crop fight eachother its rarely a highlight reel KO. It took JMM v Manny IV to get a KO. Tyson couldn't hurt Evander. Canelo highlight KOs are against Kahn and Costco Brand Kirkland. GGGs against second tier euros and a cdn. Point is they are the only ones on the same level at MW. Stymie eachother.

Typical Boxing scene poster. The greats from the past can lose to bums at 35 and still be great. Leonard at 35 was a mere shadow of himself. GGG at 35 is beating p4p guys 9 years his age. I'm not gonna engage in a back and forth with you on here, bro. You don't agree with my opinion? More power to you, I respect that. If you're intent on an rigorous argument about GGG though, tell BrometheusBob. that you've seen dudes with whiter teeth than his. That'll set him off.

I think its judging like this that fvcks over boxing.Only typical in a Alvarez bout.Shocking! A good fight marred by yet more controversy.Ggg by 2round for me.

:lol1: Just Tecate this time Not a terrible beer. Throw in a lime wedge and it's damn near bearable. :lol1: when external sh*t has to be added to make the finished product bearable, you know you're drinking the right beverage. :fing02:

He's still in place to break Hopkins record, he's still champion last I checked. you're an idiot. he arguably lost to canelo tonight and at the very least looked nothing of a ATG or even a HOF. lara did way way better against canelo and foyd shut him out 12 to zip. that was the TS point. what in the total f*ck.

Typical Boxing scene poster. The greats from the past can lose to bums at 35 and still be great. Leonard at 35 was a mere shadow of himself. GGG at 35 is beating p4p guys 9 years his age.

Yyyeeeaaaaahhh, boi! High on "life" again? Drunk on "life" too? :lol1: Just Tecate this time Not a terrible beer. Throw in a lime wedge and it's damn near bearable.

Thanks for the Cliff's Notes version of the post Now I don't have to waste energy sobering up :alcoholic Yyyeeeaaaaahhh, boi! High on "life" again? Drunk on "life" too?

I think we're forgetting the part about Alvarez daring to be great. If Gs a small middleweight what does that make Alvarez who was clearly the smaller man in the ring I don't know, bro. Short and stocky doesn't necessarily mean small, imo. Canelo is broader than GGG, and their reach was the same. GGG is also 5'10, while Canelo is 5'9.

GGG the best middleweight of all time? Hahahaha. I'm laughing my ass off at that notion. Ray Robinson would murder him. Even LaMotta would KO this guy

Again, that's a cop-out way of looking at it. I think they're both really, really good. Neither one of us has a way of proving each other wrong. I think it's a valid way of looking at it personally. That said, that's the issue with opinions; they are subjective. That said, I respect your opinion. :)

Tl;dr: Canelo has a nice beard. Thanks for the Cliff's Notes version of the post Now I don't have to waste energy sobering up :alcoholic

My feelings about the fight as a TRUE neutral. This fight was akin to busting immediately after entering the cookie, at least in my opinion. Satisfying, yet still unsatisfying. Alvarez and GGG had a competitive, and ultimately entertaining fight, but this fight was more about debunking myths than it was about establishing supremacy. The GGG hype train, which had slowed down somewhat after the Jacobs fight screeched to virtual crawling speed. People who were talking about him breaking Hopkins' record, going down as an ATF, as a HOFer, etc, them dudes are gonna have to slow down a bit, because when he went up against opponents who were a legit level above his previous ones (i.e Jacobs and Alvarez), he was shown to NOT be head and shoulders above everybody else in the division. I'm not saying he's BAD, I'm saying he flattered to deceive against weaker opposition in the past. Still a good fighter. The myth of him being one of, if not the greatest middleweight in history seems to have lost momentum. Alvarez. Well, again, he's a good fighter. Legitimately. He has skills. Problem is, they aren't as great as Khan, Smith, Kirkland, etc. made them appear to be. Like, if we were to use Floyd's interpretation of GGG having no "special effects", I'd say Canelo has "special effects", but if Floyd and Pac (previously), Loma and Rigo (currently) have Life of Pi's Richard Parker level special effects, in comparison Canelo has... Gods of Egypt level special effects. Like, they're pretty good. They also fade dramatically towards the end. His stamina, which was supposed to improve at this weight was still suspect, although that might change in the future. Anyway, on to the reason why I said it the fight was akin to a quick draw nut. The vociferous fanbases of either fighter constantly getting into threads and turning them into a constant back and forth got real old, real quick. The fight revealed that neither was as good as either fanbase touted (although I think they're still two of the best fighters and biggest names in the sport). The big issue, is that due to there being no outright winner, both fanbases are likely to continue with the back and forth until there's a definitive winner. Personally, I was hoping for a double KO. Both dudes floor each other at the same time, and don't get up. I feel like that outcome would be the only satisfactory one for me, because we would no longer see all these damn threads filled with vitriol and sh*t. Might even get the haters/trolls to stop flooding us with annoying threads as well. PS: How was the undercard? I think we're forgetting the part about Alvarez daring to be great. If Gs a small middleweight what does that make Alvarez who was clearly the smaller man in the ring

OK so when I sober up I promise I'll consider reading the OP Tl;dr: Canelo has a nice beard.

Overrated is an overused phrase. Neither is as good as their respective fans and the media would have you believe, and neither is definitively better than the other. Both are good, neither is spectacular.Again, that's a cop-out way of looking at it. I think they're both really, really good. Neither one of us has a way of proving each other wrong.

He's still in place to break Hopkins record, he's still champion last I checked. You ain't lying. But if he continues fighting opposition at the level of, or even slightly below fighters like Jacobs and Canelo, it'll be a much tougher ask. That said, if dudes of that level step up to fight him, are beaten, and he breaks the record, that'll be dope. Records are there to be broken, after all.

So your argument is because neither one showed himself to be much better than the other, they're both overrated and basically trash? Or is it because they're both really, really good? Overrated is an overused phrase. Neither is as good as their respective fans and the media would have you believe, and neither is definitively better than the other. Both are good, neither is spectacular.