I had it 8-4 Golovkin.
Canelo as usual, fought in spurts and landed the more flashy combos but Golovkin won the fight on the consistency and constant pressure. His jab was more effective, he did miss a lot of power shots, but he did land a lot too. Think if he went to the body more, he could have stopped Alvarez. Canelo was on the backfoot the whole fight but he did meet GGG in the center of the ring a few times and landed few good looking hard shots that he thought would make Golovkin respect him, but they didn't, so he retreated.
Canelo's offence and defence were flashy and looked good, but they weren't enough to win this fight. GGG's consistency is what won him this fight imo.
What about you?
I had Canelo winning the fight, but my opinion is definitely influenced because I picked him to beat GGG beforehand, I had him up early and I had him winning most of the championship rounds. This is why I could see a draw from one of the judges. It depends who you had you money on beforehand regards to scoring close rounds.
Not necessarily true. I picked Canelo by UD due to his better defense and speed, but like most non-mexicans (and I do not blame the mexicans - national pride etc, so the bias is only natural) I thought that GGG clearly won by 2-3 rounds.
In case of a rematch, I would favour Canelo (again), as rematches frequently play into the hands of the more technical fighter (which would be Canelo). It would also depend on the date - the longer it takes to make it, the better Canelo's chances are (obviously, as GGG is already borderline in terms of age).
Saw the fight once and my feeling was that GGG won. Virtually constantly the aggressor and yes I understand you have to be the EFFECTIVE aggressor, and believe he was. He fought a much more positive fight than Canelo did. There where times where both men cancelled each other out too so that in itself can give off an illusion of the fight seeming fairly even, and Canelo did have moments of success landing clean shots and making GGG miss, but generally speaking GGG was the man in there that night.
The score widely in favour of Canelo is nothing short of disgusting. Blatant foul play. Blatant.
Very good fight but Golovkin won. He swept 6 rounds in the middle fight clearly And won 2 more on my card. This sport is so currupt. Excellent performance by both guys. I know this place is a anti-Golovkin haven with trolls, but anyone who calls either of these guys overrated or hypejobs is a loser.
8-4 golovkin.
GGG fought a consistent fight the whole way through. He controlled with the jab, fought smart, and was better defensively than Canelo was prepared for.
Canelo fought in spots, but lacked the consistency to make his work more defining that the ever present jab of GGG.
Most of the rounds that you can give to him, are based off 30 seconds of activity at the start of the round, and maybe a rally at the end of the round vs GGG's consistent work 3 min of every round.
Cosign.....
DRAW
I had canelo winning the first 3 rounds and the last 3 rounds, golovkin won everything inbetween
1 canelo. Close
2 canelo
3 canelo. Close
4 ggg
5 ggg
6 ggg
7 ggg
8 ggg
9 ggg
10 canelo, close
11 canelo
12 canelo
GGG won this fight easily.
Saul "Regalo" Alvarez...
Canelo's gift is not even a win but a mere draw.
For my brothers who don' speak Spanish: Regalo = Gift
Has there been a "50-50" fight recently that didn't end in a totally inconclusive disaster/bad decision/etc? Trying to think
Spence - Brook
Fuk you Szef for making a private poll..
Yeah, I screwed up there, was a little buzzed when I made this thread.
Had Canelo winning. The cleaner and effective punches came from him.
I don't score punches that miss or hit the arms, sorry. I have noticed that a hard puncher has to do less to win the views of the sheep. They land once and people convince themselves that they took the round.
I blame that idiot Kellerman popularizung the view that the round shpuld be scored based on who you would rather be.
Don't have a round by round score but I viewed it as a comfortable win.
Ggg 7-5.
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I had rounds 1-3 for Canelo and the rest for GGG. Being in the United Kingdom I was absolutely shattered towards the end and probably could have watched rounds 10-12 a little close and wouldn't smart anyone who suggested Canelo won two of those.
The deciding factors for me are as follows: GGG won rounds clearer than Canelo did and when close rounds did take place in terms of punches landed and damage GGG deserved the round by virtue of being in control. I think this aspect of ring generalship is most clear when comparing the first couple rounds to the rest of the fight.
The momentum change happened after round 3. In the first few rounds Canelo moved well and was pushing GGG back when he decided to open up. After this point (due to GGG finding the range and getting to grips with what angles he could work from) Canelo was moving straight back at a fast speed and could no longer discourage GGG from doing his work.
I can see anything from a tenuously arguable draw to 117-111 Golovkin.
GGG is trash who did nothing but beg to get his ass whooped.
He had nothing for Canelo. The scorecards are comical.
Too slow to establish his jab, as Alvarez was faster and would counter.
Alvarez reduced the strength on GGG's punches to very little with the body attack.
People think because gennady managed to corner Canelo against the ropes and throw some empty punches that it counts for something but since Canelo would slip or get off the most damaging blows during those moments they are mistaken.
A ****in shame. All Alvarez has to do is get his wind up and he'll spark GGG out. KO easy.
Im good with a draw. At one point I had it 4 rounds to 3 for Canelo and I stopped tracking/scoring rounds. Some rounds were close and hard to score.
Canelo had major stamina problems, starting maybe from the 4th round. He wasted a lot of energy jumping on his toes when he was out of range in the early rounds. He did go to the body extensively and landed head shots rather easily. I was surprised compubox had a huge lead for GGG for landed shots, a lot of his were blocked or slipped, he landed more in the mid-late rounds when canelo was tired but still I thought canelo landed more clean shots.
GGG not only has an iron jaw but an iron body. Canelo hit him with hooks to the body every chance he got and it never slowed down GGG, he just kept coming and coming. Canelo landed a monster overhand right around the 4th round that GGG ate and just didnt react at all to, didnt take a step back, wobble or anything. I knew then it was going 12.
Canelo took GGG shots really well. GGG is a guy that breaks peoples faces, literally. I thought Canelo might have been buzzed in the 11th and trying to conceal it but regardless he never was seriously hurt.
Canelo has to do something about his stamina if he wants to beat GGG convincingly. Not just training for stamina but also fighting smarter and conserving energy. He already imitates mayweather to a large degree, this is something mayweather is a master at, so something he should work on.
I had Canelo winning the first 2 rounds. Golovkin seemed like he didn't get into his groove until after that. Golovkin won the middle rounds and Canelo came on late in round 10&11 with Golovkin taking 12. I think a reasonable card would be 7-5 Golovkin. If Canelo didn't get gassed he could have taken it. This is boxing and it was Vegas. Sets up a great and profitable rematch. Not hard to understand. Byrd should be barred from judging.
Canelo. He did more damage, landed punches at will and made Golovkin miss all night. Golovkin was just chasing him around, but was scared to throw every time Canelo had his back on the ropes... Golovkin won 3-4 rounds at most and he ate uppercuts all night while doing no damage himself. Just look at their faces at the end of the fight, lol.
GGG didnt do enough imo, he didnt look his usual self
he wasnt cutting off the ring
yea his workrate was high, but he was missing a lot of punches,
the last three rounds he didnt finish strong
what i am saying is he wasnt dominate in there, Canelo was still looking strong at the end
geeg won it but not as dominantly as usual and it (sadly) wasn't very surprising that GB's franchise fighter got bailed out
canelo did alright, but no way he won