Would you consider Pacquiao one of the best offensive fighters of all time?

did you not read what both guys made during 2009-2010??????? 2009-201 is when they started talking for the fight! Once again if you followed the negotiations back then you would know that Floyd was the A side. That's not a diss to you. That's just something that you would know.

no need to go back and forth. i posted why manny was the a-side but i guess you choose to not see it. 1. lol simple math says floyd averaged 1.2 mil and Manny averaged slighly less than 1. 2. Mosely - Mayweather doubled Pac Clottey. Significant because those were their first fights after their clash fell through. But it was reading this post that brought me to the realization that you did not follow this story closely when it was happening. No one thought Manny was the A side. NO ONE. I won't even discuss that Floyd held the pay per view record at that point.

1. floyd retired then came back when pac was #1, how is floyd the a side? it was 50/50 straight down the line. 2. not after being accused and being called easy work. if manny is easy work you dont need extra testing. you get in and whoop his a$$. simple right? 3. so floyd ONLY signed on what "floyd" agree, that doesnt mean jack! it takes 2 to make a fight, that's why there's a thing called "negotiating"! 4. just like i thought, hold nothing against floyd but you just said you lost respect for a fighter who stopped training and treat it as a hobby. (isnt that the exact reason floyd is doing)? 5. manny never said marquez was on peds, manny knocked morales out in the rematch using the gloves he wanted (so that dedunk your reason of making an excuse for not having reyes gloves) manny never said he was scared of needles (debunk your lies again). Nice back and forth but I'll move on now. I don't think you were following the negotiations closely when it was happening or maybe you're trolling. Have a good day

BoxingTrav - next time just post under your real account playa. What fake account. I had an account that was locked out years ago. I opened this one after that was locked out. Look me up on IG if you think this is an alt. Boxingtrav

I'm not going back and debating on that old ass post boy Old post? Ok...Have a good one

Of course. At his peak? He was expected to KO the best guys in the world within two or three weight classes. That's a different level. That's Tyson, Sonny Liston kind of sh*t ++.

How did you DEFLECT? :pat: STEP 1: Admit to yourself that you DEFLECT! STEP 2: Come back and admit to us all that you DEFLECT!!! Only then do you have a chance of getting rid of your addiction! . You asked me why Manny needed 14+ days .... I on the other hand told you to respond to a couple of questions and you would have part of my answer. Then I still proceeded to give you about 5 or 6 other responses to your question!!!! For someone like (ie. DEFLECTOR) you, I was being too generous!!!:doh: . LMAOOOO HOW STUPID ARE YOU? You just admit that you tried to answer my question... by asking me a question. THAT'S DEFLECTING, YA IDIOT :lol1: DEFLECTING AGAIN? Go read what I said above ... then go check out my previous posts. Then realize that I gave you 5 responses and 1 in which you can figure it out by responding to a question. No that hard DEFLECTOR!!! https://i.pinimg.com/736x/74/3d/87/743d8790e9248eb211ac7d6f9ce079d0--quotes-on-addiction-recovery-quotes-addiction-sobriety.jpg

Aww. I thought you were going to quote Floyd about that trifecta. AHAHAHAHA. WHERE IS THE QUOTATION FROM FLOYD SAYING GIVING BLOOD WAS THE REASON FOR HIS DEHYDRATION. WAITINGGGGG!!! You know that Floyd/Ellerbe were rambling about giving blood, giving urine and working out but all 3 BS excuses were shot down!!! NEXT!!! NEXT? Floyd drank enough fluids that would have relieved him as per USADA, NSAC and WADA documentation. Floyd just needed to drink a few cups of fluid per pound lost but I'm sure that with a meal too, Floyd would have been more than fine as far as going up a few measily pounds!!! :lol1: WHAT A JOKE!!! That is relatively NOTHING compared to what someone such as McGregor or Canelo or Chavez Jr does prior to and after weigh-ins!!! Floyd was woozy after that? After he even drank? Due to his excuses? WHAT A JOKE!!! :pat: .

How the fvck did I deflect when I asked you about Pacquiao needing 24 days to recover from giving blood and your only response was about Floyd, and a non- quotation :lol1: NOW THATS WHAT YOU CALL DEFLECTING!!! :lol1: How did you DEFLECT? :pat: STEP 1: Admit to yourself that you DEFLECT! STEP 2: Come back and admit to us all that you DEFLECT!!! Only then do you have a chance of getting rid of your addiction! . You asked me why Manny needed 14+ days .... I on the other hand told you to respond to a couple of questions and you would have part of my answer. Then I still proceeded to give you about 5 or 6 other responses to your question!!!! For someone like (ie. DEFLECTOR) you, I was being too generous!!!:doh: .

Which Floyd was right, DEFLECTOR? I'm still waiting for your response. 2015 version of Floyd and USADA(gave retro TUE) where they believe that blood testing affects you or pre-2015 version of Floyd and USADA that said it doesn't affect you? 2009/2010 Was Manny right that giving blood can affect you while training and for the fight as he said on a video prior to the negotiations (Morales fight)? 2009/2010/2011 Was Floyd and USADA right that giving blood does not affect you while training? Floyd brings up Morales!!!! He knew that Manny would say no!!!: "The Mayweather-Pacquiao fight didn't get made because Manny Pacquiao said he wanted two weeks of non-testing. The last two weeks leading up until the fight, he didn't want to take the tests, so that's why the fight didn't happen. Everything they asked of me, I agreed and what I asked of them, they didn't agree." " When Manny gave blood before the first Morales fight, he lost. He didn't give blood for the next two fights and he knocked Morales out with ease. A lot of times, people don't realize, giving blood doesn't make you weak. Not being able to juice because you have to give blood makes you weak. That's what a lot of people don't realize and don't know." - Floyd Mayweather 2015 - Floyd now contradicts his previous statements about the affects of giving blood Was Floyd right that giving blood 10 days earlier affects you while training? :lol1: 2008 - Golden Boy - Floyd's promoters thinks its an INSULT to have extra testing!!! "Whatever tests they want them to take, Shane will submit to that. We are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires," Schaefer said. "The fact is Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one." . Are you freaking serious? I gave you several questions and gave you the time to think about them and respond but like usual, the DEFLECTOR deflects! Floyd, said that it was the trifecta that did him in. Drug testing, meaning giving blood and urine and his workouts .... BUT Floyd gave blood about 10 days before the IV scandal . So with that said, Floyd is saying that drug testing affects you even 10 days later because of the trifecta. Oh and as you know, Floyd admits to making weight easily plus he had less than 2lbs to lose from 1 week out and was relatively the same weight for 30 days! So no struggling for that and Floyd said that he was "taking it easy and relaxing" on his Final days before the fight!!! So did the Trifecta do him in or are you going to admit to this: What a crock!!!! So again, Question 1: Is Floyd stating the truth or lying about those excuses? Question 2: If you respond by saying that you believe Floyd then Manny has a point about it could have affected him as well. 1) To answer your question, you need to respond to the above as it may answer your question! BUT I will also add the below factors 2) It was a negotiation on something that Floyd wanted. Floyd wanted something that went beyond the commission rules and it was not the norm back then. It's not even the norm now. AND 3) Manny felt that they were the A side back then and didn't want to take any orders from Floyd. AND 4) Floyd and company accused Manny of taking PEDs. As I pointed out, the year before, Golden Boy was on Manny's side in that they too thought it was an INSULT to even bring up extra testing when Zab Judah requested Mosley to get extra testing. Golden Boy told Judah NO WAY!!!!! They knew that Manny was going to feel insulted and the fight would more than likely not happen after that. The evidence is there as Manny sued them all! AND 5) This was the first time Manny had to do this and this was going to be his biggest fight. With what happened with Morales and people saying that Manny got duped, he didn't want something like that to happen again! AND 6) Manny's concern was not just for the fight but also training. Weak: Feeling weaker in that you can become dizzy/faint and or you can feel tired or not the usual energy or other types of symptoms that affect your body in such a manner. Manny Pacquiao complained about some of those symptoms. So then Floyd said what he said about Manny BUT then Floyd needs a few banned IV bags!!! Even though we all saw Floyd look good at the weigh in, according to Floyd fans! :lol1: We saw Floyd drink adequately enough to not feel any of the symptoms above to the degree of having no choice but to use banned IV bags but according to Floyd, he was still feeling the affects!!! :lol1: Canelo looked very dehydrated trying to make weight at Floyd vs Canelo weigh-in. People such as Andre Ward noticed. "Canelo didn't look good yesterday (at weigh-in). It's a big fight and you come that close to your opponent: You saw how Floyd was hyped up, full of energy. Even if you don't have energy because you're making weight, like I've never seen a guy go on a stage and sit down. That concerned me." So I hope that you can answer Floyd's and USADA's contradictions ................ DEFLECTOR! . Sorry but I cannot answer your questions .... so I must DEFLECT AGAIN I edited your post since all you did is that .... DEFLECTOR!!! "A lot of times, people don't realize, giving blood doesn't make you weak. Not being able to juice because you have to give blood makes you weak. That's what a lot of people don't realize and don't know." - Floyd Mayweather Hmmm, Floyd says he knows about "juicing" So you think Floyd's weak A$$ was dizzy or fainting or low on energy? Floyd knows how to contradict himself or maybe he is talking about his experience!!! From what he said, Floyd was weak because of not being able to juice or trying to hide the juicing!!! :lol1: Aww. I thought you were going to quote Floyd about that trifecta. AHAHAHAHA. WHERE IS THE QUOTATION FROM FLOYD SAYING GIVING BLOOD WAS THE REASON FOR HIS DEHYDRATION. WAITINGGGGG!!! Now now. We both know you are the deflector. Remember when you deflected from the EPO question about 20 times until you tried to change the topic in the dome and still got beat 4-0? Hahahahaha. So when are you going to stop ducking and deflecting, bltch. Why did Pac need 24 days to recover from giving blood. Let Freddie help you: What you got, bltch DEFLECTOR: You have a lot of catching up to do!!! Go respond to my posts directly instead of your LAME DEFLECTIONs. LOL and of course, there were other posts in this thread that YOU DEFLECTED!!! Go respond to those as well!!! .

Deflector? Says the guy who refuses to answer one single question. Do you believe Manny needed over 14 days to recover from giving blood? Maybe you didn't care. Back in 2012 you were making posts like this! LMAOOOOO. SHAME SHAME SHAMEEEEE ON YOU. YOU WERE JUST ABOUT WITH PED's BEING TAKEN WHEN YOUR IDOL WAS BEING SEEN AS DIRTY AS FVCK. AHAHAHAHAHA. ANOTHER L FOR YOU, Clown! By the way, go back and read Zaroku's post about being able to look yourself in the mirror after I crushed you 4-0 :lol1: DEFLECTOR and CHEAT why didn't you post everything? Fortunately, I found that thread. From what I remember, I thought it was interesting so I posted it ... but the thread had another post of mine where it squashes what you said and SPEAKs the TRUTH .... you are a LIAR, a CHEAT and DEFLECTOR!!! Read and weep .... CHEATER!!!! Guess which manny fan is fed up that Manny no longer gets KO's when he fights. ADP02 When did I ever say that I was for what "Cashmore" said? If Manny would get caught, I would call it for what it is. He would be considered a cheater .... Floyd and some of his fans call Manny a cheat with no proof. See the difference? but funny how when this topic is brought up to be used against your hero Floyd and him admitting to numbing his hands on fight night. Floyd fans either run away from the discussion or bring up their own excuses instead of saying that was wrong what Floyd did. Even when discussions on testing needs to be done year round to be more effective, Floyd fans have excuses as well. I was even OK for year round testing as they are more effective. :lol1: . Read what and weep, f@g? You already exposed yourself by making the thread in the first place. And thanks for showing that Dunn called you on it already :lol1: Big Dunn and I have had our battles, that's cool but my response is what you didn't point out!!! LIAR!!! FACTs: Proven again that you cannot admit when you are WRONG! So you DEFLECT!!! Always the same formula ..... LAME!!! .

Which Floyd was right, DEFLECTOR? I'm still waiting for your response. 2015 version of Floyd and USADA(gave retro TUE) where they believe that blood testing affects you or pre-2015 version of Floyd and USADA that said it doesn't affect you? 2009/2010 Was Manny right that giving blood can affect you while training and for the fight as he said on a video prior to the negotiations (Morales fight)? 2009/2010/2011 Was Floyd and USADA right that giving blood does not affect you while training? Floyd brings up Morales!!!! He knew that Manny would say no!!!: "The Mayweather-Pacquiao fight didn't get made because Manny Pacquiao said he wanted two weeks of non-testing. The last two weeks leading up until the fight, he didn't want to take the tests, so that's why the fight didn't happen. Everything they asked of me, I agreed and what I asked of them, they didn't agree." " When Manny gave blood before the first Morales fight, he lost. He didn't give blood for the next two fights and he knocked Morales out with ease. A lot of times, people don't realize, giving blood doesn't make you weak. Not being able to juice because you have to give blood makes you weak. That's what a lot of people don't realize and don't know." - Floyd Mayweather 2015 - Floyd now contradicts his previous statements about the affects of giving blood Was Floyd right that giving blood 10 days earlier affects you while training? :lol1: 2008 - Golden Boy - Floyd's promoters thinks its an INSULT to have extra testing!!! "Whatever tests they want them to take, Shane will submit to that. We are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires," Schaefer said. "The fact is Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one." . Are you freaking serious? I gave you several questions and gave you the time to think about them and respond but like usual, the DEFLECTOR deflects! Floyd, said that it was the trifecta that did him in. Drug testing, meaning giving blood and urine and his workouts .... BUT Floyd gave blood about 10 days before the IV scandal . So with that said, Floyd is saying that drug testing affects you even 10 days later because of the trifecta. Oh and as you know, Floyd admits to making weight easily plus he had less than 2lbs to lose from 1 week out and was relatively the same weight for 30 days! So no struggling for that and Floyd said that he was "taking it easy and relaxing" on his Final days before the fight!!! So did the Trifecta do him in or are you going to admit to this: What a crock!!!! So again, Question 1: Is Floyd stating the truth or lying about those excuses? Question 2: If you respond by saying that you believe Floyd then Manny has a point about it could have affected him as well. 1) To answer your question, you need to respond to the above as it may answer your question! BUT I will also add the below factors 2) It was a negotiation on something that Floyd wanted. Floyd wanted something that went beyond the commission rules and it was not the norm back then. It's not even the norm now. AND 3) Manny felt that they were the A side back then and didn't want to take any orders from Floyd. AND 4) Floyd and company accused Manny of taking PEDs. As I pointed out, the year before, Golden Boy was on Manny's side in that they too thought it was an INSULT to even bring up extra testing when Zab Judah requested Mosley to get extra testing. Golden Boy told Judah NO WAY!!!!! They knew that Manny was going to feel insulted and the fight would more than likely not happen after that. The evidence is there as Manny sued them all! AND 5) This was the first time Manny had to do this and this was going to be his biggest fight. With what happened with Morales and people saying that Manny got duped, he didn't want something like that to happen again! AND 6) Manny's concern was not just for the fight but also training. Weak: Feeling weaker in that you can become dizzy/faint and or you can feel tired or not the usual energy or other types of symptoms that affect your body in such a manner. Manny Pacquiao complained about some of those symptoms. So then Floyd said what he said about Manny BUT then Floyd needs a few banned IV bags!!! Even though we all saw Floyd look good at the weigh in, according to Floyd fans! :lol1: We saw Floyd drink adequately enough to not feel any of the symptoms above to the degree of having no choice but to use banned IV bags but according to Floyd, he was still feeling the affects!!! :lol1: Canelo looked very dehydrated trying to make weight at Floyd vs Canelo weigh-in. People such as Andre Ward noticed. "Canelo didn't look good yesterday (at weigh-in). It's a big fight and you come that close to your opponent: You saw how Floyd was hyped up, full of energy. Even if you don't have energy because you're making weight, like I've never seen a guy go on a stage and sit down. That concerned me." So I hope that you can answer Floyd's and USADA's contradictions ................ DEFLECTOR! . Sorry but I cannot answer your questions .... so I must DEFLECT AGAIN I edited your post since all you did is that .... DEFLECTOR!!! "A lot of times, people don't realize, giving blood doesn't make you weak. Not being able to juice because you have to give blood makes you weak. That's what a lot of people don't realize and don't know." - Floyd Mayweather Hmmm, Floyd says he knows about "juicing" So you think Floyd's weak A$$ was dizzy or fainting or low on energy? Floyd knows how to contradict himself or maybe he is talking about his experience!!! From what he said, Floyd was weak because of not being able to juice or trying to hide the juicing!!! :lol1:

You do realize I murdered both of you clowns, right. Your boy there couldn't keep up. And we both know you couldn't keep up. Didn't I kick your a$$ in a poll thread and 4-0 in a thunderdome battle :lol1: You're my son. Remember that. DEFLECTOR and CHEAT why didn't you post everything? Fortunately, I found that thread. From what I remember, I thought it was interesting so I posted it ... but the thread had another post of mine where it squashes what you said and SPEAKs the TRUTH .... you are a LIAR, a CHEAT and DEFLECTOR!!! Read and weep .... CHEATER!!!! I was even OK for year round testing as they are more effective. :lol1: . In your CHEATING dreams!!! "peeleft:

Deflector? Says the guy who refuses to answer one single question. Do you believe Manny needed over 14 days to recover from giving blood? Maybe you didn't care. Back in 2012 you were making posts like this! LMAOOOOO. SHAME SHAME SHAMEEEEE ON YOU. YOU WERE JUST ABOUT WITH PED's BEING TAKEN WHEN YOUR IDOL WAS BEING SEEN AS DIRTY AS FVCK. AHAHAHAHAHA. ANOTHER L FOR YOU, Clown! By the way, go back and read Zaroku's post about being able to look yourself in the mirror after I crushed you 4-0 :lol1: DEFLECTOR and CHEAT why didn't you post everything? Fortunately, I found that thread. From what I remember, I thought it was interesting so I posted it ... but the thread had another post of mine where it squashes what you said and SPEAKs the TRUTH .... you are a LIAR, a CHEAT and DEFLECTOR!!! Read and weep .... CHEATER!!!! Guess which manny fan is fed up that Manny no longer gets KO's when he fights. ADP02 When did I ever say that I was for what "Cashmore" said? If Manny would get caught, I would call it for what it is. He would be considered a cheater .... Floyd and some of his fans call Manny a cheat with no proof. See the difference? but funny how when this topic is brought up to be used against your hero Floyd and him admitting to numbing his hands on fight night. Floyd fans either run away from the discussion or bring up their own excuses instead of saying that was wrong what Floyd did. Even when discussions on testing needs to be done year round to be more effective, Floyd fans have excuses as well. I was even OK for year round testing as they are more effective. :lol1: .

Great post, outstanding. You have way more patience than I do on here. Well done ;) Thanks!!! That guy (Travestyny) just DEFLECTs when he knows that he is WRONG!!!

Which Floyd was right, DEFLECTOR? I'm still waiting for your response. 2015 version of Floyd and USADA(gave retro TUE) where they believe that blood testing affects you or pre-2015 version of Floyd and USADA that said it doesn't affect you? 2009/2010 Was Manny right that giving blood can affect you while training and for the fight as he said on a video prior to the negotiations (Morales fight)? 2009/2010/2011 Was Floyd and USADA right that giving blood does not affect you while training? Floyd brings up Morales!!!! He knew that Manny would say no!!!: "The Mayweather-Pacquiao fight didn't get made because Manny Pacquiao said he wanted two weeks of non-testing. The last two weeks leading up until the fight, he didn't want to take the tests, so that's why the fight didn't happen. Everything they asked of me, I agreed and what I asked of them, they didn't agree." " When Manny gave blood before the first Morales fight, he lost. He didn't give blood for the next two fights and he knocked Morales out with ease. A lot of times, people don't realize, giving blood doesn't make you weak. Not being able to juice because you have to give blood makes you weak. That's what a lot of people don't realize and don't know." - Floyd Mayweather 2015 - Floyd now contradicts his previous statements about the affects of giving blood Was Floyd right that giving blood 10 days earlier affects you while training? :lol1: 2008 - Golden Boy - Floyd's promoters thinks its an INSULT to have extra testing!!! "Whatever tests they want them to take, Shane will submit to that. We are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires," Schaefer said. "The fact is Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one." . Yawnnnn. How many times have I answered ALL of your questions, only for you to duck, deflect, and run away. Ok. Well I'm going to do it again for you. Let's see if this actually makes you answer my questions in return. Or will you duck, dodge, deflect....OR BEG FOR A DRAW Problem here is you are a butthurt f@g. I seriously mean that. NOT ONE PERSON HAS EVER TRIED TO MAKE THE CASE THAT GIVING BLOOD WAS THE MAIN CAUSE OF FLOYD'S DEHYDRATION. Where did Floyd ever say that giving blood made him weak? What did they say was the cause for dehydration? "JUST WORKING." It's beyond idiotic for you to keep bringing up giving blood. You cling to that like a baby at it's mom's tit and yet NOT ONE PERSON HAS COSIGNED YOU ON YOUR STUPIDITY. Why don't you make a thread and post Floyd and Ellerby's statement along with his quotation that giving blood doesn't weaken you for a fight. Oh, and you forgot. Mayweather went through various testing protocols and WAS NEVER WEAKENED FOR A FIGHT. But was he ever Dehydrated? Yes he was, as you saw in the Mosley fight. Now you believe that is because he gave blood? He was dehydrated when they came, you butthurt moron. Can you explain all of this? I bet you duck! The Mosley fight shows visual evidence of Floyd being dehydrated. The same Floyd that doesn't go up and down in weight. Care to explain? AND WHAT THE ACTUAL FVCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH MANNY PACQUAIAO NEEDING MORE THAN 2 WEEKS CUSHION BETWEEN DRUG TESTING AND THE TEST, YOU PROJECTING DEFLECTING LITTLE BlTCH. Bottom line is this. Floyd Mayweather never said that giving blood weakened him for a fight. Period. Floyd Mayweather, nor Leonard Ellerby, said giving blood was a main cause for dehydration. They stated clearly that the main cause was WORKING/ OVERWORKING. Do you deny this? Tell me ADP02. Which fighter do you think ducked the fight? Fighter A: 1. Agreed to a 50/50 split 2. Signed the contract 3. Agreed to pay extra for being overweight. 4. Asked for 14 day cut-off of drug testing after wanting full random testing. Keep in mind, Fighter B's coach said they need at least 5 days. Fighter B: 1. Refused to fight because he needed a whopping 24 days between drug testing and the fight. WHO THE FVCK NEEDS MORE THAN 2 WEEKS TO RECOVER FROM GIVING BLOOD? 2. His own trainer said he would only need 5 days. 3. His own trainer admit that the fight not happening was their fault. You know what? I gave you a lot so let me repose my question so that you can see it clearly and not duck. LET'S SEE IF YOU CAN ANSWER WITHOUT MENTIONING EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER EXCEPT FOR THE ONE PERSON YOU SHOULD MENTION: Pacquaio. WHAT LOGICAL REASON CAN YOU GIVE FOR MANNY PACQUIAO NEEDING MORE THAN 2 WEEKS TO RECOVER FROM GIVING BLOOD FOR A PED TEST? Don't duck, dodge, and deflect. Let's see if you can answer, because all of your boys here bltched out. And you've been giving deflections instead of answering. Are you freaking serious? I gave you several questions and gave you the time to think about them and respond but like usual, the DEFLECTOR deflects! Floyd, said that it was the trifecta that did him in. Drug testing, meaning giving blood and urine and his workouts .... BUT Floyd gave blood about 10 days before the IV scandal . So with that said, Floyd is saying that drug testing affects you even 10 days later because of the trifecta. Oh and as you know, Floyd admits to making weight easily plus he had less than 2lbs to lose from 1 week out and was relatively the same weight for 30 days! So no struggling for that and Floyd said that he was "taking it easy and relaxing" on his Final days before the fight!!! So did the Trifecta do him in or are you going to admit to this: What a crock!!!! So again, Question 1: Is Floyd stating the truth or lying about those excuses? Question 2: If you respond by saying that you believe Floyd then Manny has a point about it could have affected him as well. 1) To answer your question, you need to respond to the above as it may answer your question! BUT I will also add the below factors 2) It was a negotiation on something that Floyd wanted. Floyd wanted something that went beyond the commission rules and it was not the norm back then. It's not even the norm now. AND 3) Manny felt that they were the A side back then and didn't want to take any orders from Floyd. AND 4) Floyd and company accused Manny of taking PEDs. As I pointed out, the year before, Golden Boy was on Manny's side in that they too thought it was an INSULT to even bring up extra testing when Zab Judah requested Mosley to get extra testing. Golden Boy told Judah NO WAY!!!!! They knew that Manny was going to feel insulted and the fight would more than likely not happen after that. The evidence is there as Manny sued them all! AND 5) This was the first time Manny had to do this and this was going to be his biggest fight. With what happened with Morales and people saying that Manny got duped, he didn't want something like that to happen again! AND 6) Manny's concern was not just for the fight but also training. Weak: Feeling weaker in that you can become dizzy/faint and or you can feel tired or not the usual energy or other types of symptoms that affect your body in such a manner. Manny Pacquiao complained about some of those symptoms. So then Floyd said what he said about Manny BUT then Floyd needs a few banned IV bags!!! Even though we all saw Floyd look good at the weigh in, according to Floyd fans! :lol1: We saw Floyd drink adequately enough to not feel any of the symptoms above to the degree of having no choice but to use banned IV bags but according to Floyd, he was still feeling the affects!!! :lol1: Canelo looked very dehydrated trying to make weight at Floyd vs Canelo weigh-in. People such as Andre Ward noticed. "Canelo didn't look good yesterday (at weigh-in). It's a big fight and you come that close to your opponent: You saw how Floyd was hyped up, full of energy. Even if you don't have energy because you're making weight, like I've never seen a guy go on a stage and sit down. That concerned me." So I hope that you can answer Floyd's and USADA's contradictions ................ DEFLECTOR! .

This was my question and all I'm concerned to reply about. 1. Respond to what about Floyd's IV? Salt water helps relieve dehydration. DOES IT HELP HEAL A SURGICALLY REPAIRED FULL THICKNESS ROTATOR CUFF INJURY???? EXPLAIN THAT, DOPE HEAD. You're beyond help saying bullsh@t about Floyd taking an IV when he easily makes weight. Dehydration my a55! You know damn well he was masking ped's. How's that for speculation you idiot. So it's apparent that you didn't read the link I sent so I'll just cut you off right there and say you're an absolute bias moron and should not be taken seriously and will not waste one second longer of my time trying to talk sense into an obvious blithering fkn moron. Go fk yourself b@tch.

Revisionist. 1. Floyd always held the cards. I never even thought that was debatable. 2. Is there anyone in the world that believes PED testing isn't good for all sports especially combat sports? Why would Manny be offended by that? 3. Floyd signed the contract he did not wait for Manny to get sparked. If I remember correctly Floyd presented an offer to Manny in January 2012. Marquez sparked him in December of that year. I think Manny claimed that Floyd treated him like a bum by only offering 40 mil. How times have changed. 4. I like Floyd and Manny but I must admt I lost respect for Manny when he backed out of the fight for some weird reasons. I lost even more respect for him with how he stopped training and treated the sport like a hobby. But neither is my favorite fighter. I admire Floyd's approach in the ring and how he conducts his boxing matters. I don't like how he's did things outside the ring before he went prison but he's seems to be more mature now. 5. I think the media should have put pressure on Manny. His reasons for not wanting blood testing were silly. They didn't press Manny, we got the fight late and Floyd benefited greatly from the whole thing. He won the War I'm not going back and debating on that old ass post boy

1. no, in 2009-2010 but were 50/50 2. maybe he was offended by it, not because of the random testing but because floyd ACCUSED him of being dirty and floyd also said he was easy work easy money. 3. how can floyd signed a contract when random testing was never agree on, which is the MAIN reason the fight didnt happen LOL 4. so according to mayweather sr. floyd didnt train at all for the conor fight. you lost respect for him as well? LOL 5. his reasons remain consistent, he said giving blood close to fight night makes him feel week, reason why he wanted a cut off. (he also said the same thing after losing the morales the first time, so his reasons were consistent). 1. Everybody was shocked Floyd agreed to 50/50 split back then. I don't know at what time you started following boxing but it was a given Mayweather was the A side. 2. If you're clean you laugh at the accusation and commence to @ss whopping. If he thought Floyd was scare take the test and beat his @ss. Simple. 3. Floyd signed his side accepting all stipulations. 4. It's unprofessional for Floyd to not train for the McGregor fight but he never did that for pro boxers. Mayweather was always fit and prepared. 5. Manny is a sore loser. Against JMM was it bad socks, Morales was blood and he didn't have his Reyes Gloves, JMM in the knockout it was PED's, Floyd it was his shoulder. Sense a pattern? Scared of needles, he can only give out blood thirty days before the fight, but when the video came out of him giving blood 24 days before the Hatton fight then he changed it to 24 days. I mean really?

At the time Floyd didn't hold all of the cards. That's what you're forgetting. Why random testing at all if he knew it was 'easy work' all along? Then fast forward to Manny getting cold c@cked out of nowhere by JMM while pulverizing him and losing a bs decision vs. Bradley, and all of the sudden Floyd is willing to fight Manny. Even as a fan, with what I've said in correlation with that video, you should be suspicious. Revisionist. 1. Floyd always held the cards. I never even thought that was debatable. 2. Is there anyone in the world that believes PED testing isn't good for all sports especially combat sports? Why would Manny be offended by that? 3. Floyd signed the contract he did not wait for Manny to get sparked. If I remember correctly Floyd presented an offer to Manny in January 2012. Marquez sparked him in December of that year. I think Manny claimed that Floyd treated him like a bum by only offering 40 mil. How times have changed. 4. I like Floyd and Manny but I must admt I lost respect for Manny when he backed out of the fight for some weird reasons. I lost even more respect for him with how he stopped training and treated the sport like a hobby. But neither is my favorite fighter. I admire Floyd's approach in the ring and how he conducts his boxing matters. I don't like how he's did things outside the ring before he went prison but he's seems to be more mature now. 5. I think the media should have put pressure on Manny. His reasons for not wanting blood testing were silly. They didn't press Manny, we got the fight late and Floyd benefited greatly from the whole thing. He won the War