Who had more potential Zab,Broner or Gamboa?

Zab by far

Gamboa, then Zab..................then Boner. Adrien has feet stuck in cement and slower reflexes than the other two.

Man I'm bummed Broner turned out like this....I not exactly thrilled about Zab or Gamboa either.....who had the most potential? Poll posted you know the rules boys........... I saw broner before anybody did. He was on FNF made years ago. Looked promising. I voted for Zabby. Dude was a super talent. I think that Tszyu match ruined him. he was never the same since and losing that young historically has residual effects.

I get it. You guys are crediting that BS win against Mayorga as the only real feather in his cap. Despite one judge having it a draw and the ref taking points from Mayorga for Spinks going low and Spinks basically throwing half the damn fight. He looked like a damn bum that night and you know it. Spinks gets a gift decision in a fight with a corrupt ref = people praise him as better than he is. Williams gets a gift decision in a fight with corrupt judges = people say Lara was robbed. Whatever. Ya'll come back when you can call out a DECISIVE win for either Zab or Cory Spinks against a fighter with a pulse. I'll wait. Don't wait... Terror millet Junior witter Michelle picharillo Roman karamzin Plus spinks and Judah each had a win over the other

Gamboa looked like a cross between Roy Jones and Tyson in miniature form. Then he started with mild retardation behavior, making decisions he obviously thought where great ideas. But everyone else with half a brain knew they where just terrible awful choices and he never stopped making them, and now he is way past full retard and is where he is at because of his own choices sadly.

Great points fellas........Man i wished I added Victor Ortiz to the poll/thread. Mods can you add victor ortiz and reset the poll?

lol..paper champ??? he was the lineal champ who beat Mayorga who beat Forrest who beat Mosley 2 times..how was he a paper champ? Agreed....i would like to here this as well

Cory Spinks AT THAT TIME was a paper champion and you know it. He didn't hit his stride until years after the Judah fight. Witter was the equivalent of a journeyman when Judah faced him. 18 fights, most going the distance, a bunch of nobodies. And what you guys are missing is that the alphabet soup of titles was WAY worse back then, so being a titleholder meant way less unless it was the heavyweights or middleweights. lol..paper champ??? he was the lineal champ who beat Mayorga who beat Forrest who beat Mosley 2 times..how was he a paper champ?

Gamboa for me. At his peak, I thought he was the closest thing I had seen to Roy Jones. Super rare talent with amazing combination of speed, power and reflexes 2. Zab 3. Broner- broner would never bear someone like Cory spinks 04 Gamboa was a steroid cheat that lost all his meaningful fights and was exposed. Zab, had phenomenal boxing skills along with unbelievable physical talent... just didn’t have the chin or character it takes to stay at the top. Ask yourself this, if all 3 fought in a tournament against only each other how would it play out? I say Broner beats neither and comes in last, I say prime Judah beats prime Gamboa 8/10 times. All 3 are an incredible waste of talent and never came close to reaching the potential they could have.

Dude is off his rocker. There's no way on Earth he was following boxing back then. None. Agree.. just boxrecing it and trying to act like he knows..

"Triangle theory"". Wtf are you talking about, that literally has nothing to do with spinks being a paper champ or not.. Spinks was the undisputed, welter champ.. end of story He wasn't a journeymen He wasn't a paper champion This has nothing to do with triangle theory Dude is off his rocker. There's no way on Earth he was following boxing back then. None.

Triangle theory bro. First of all, had it not been for the point deductions the fight would likely have been a draw. In fact one judge HAD it a draw. The judge that had it wide was on crack. Second of all, Spinks getting knocked down in the 12th not called a knockdown despite coming off three punches? Third, Spinks basically threw the last two rounds and was getting roughed up for his trouble. Fourth, Spinks constantly ducking was what caused him to get hit behind the head, it wasn't intentional. Mayorga should have won that fight, or at least a draw. And Spinks looked bare average. I find it funny people think Ward won the first Kov fight despite that fight largely going the same way as Mayorga/Spinks except for extra knockdowns on even rounds. "Triangle theory"". Wtf are you talking about, that literally has nothing to do with spinks being a paper champ or not.. Spinks was the undisputed, welter champ.. end of story He wasn't a journeymen He wasn't a paper champion This has nothing to do with triangle theory

Gamboa by far. He was just the product of a terrible management and getting raped by 50 Cent who had no clue what he was doing. Zab had a lot of potential but the streets were more important.... Broner just wasn't that good, the writing was there on the wall since the beginning that he wasn't that talented. He had got a gift against some nobody named Quintero then another one against tiny Ponce De Leon. And this was him being a 'hot' prospect. People think he under achieved but I think it's actually the opposite, at least financially he certainly did. Hell, I'd even say that Vic Ortiz was more of a wasted talent then him. Ortiz is an interesting case to bring up, very relevant to the thread. You could make a case for Ortiz indeed. He also probably squandered the best opportunity of the lot: When Judah fought Mayweather he showed that in the first 5 rounds or so, he could be a serious problem. I would agree that Ortiz is comparable to Broner, and like Broner the ability to make adjustments is lacking!

When you say "potential" I think put them all back to 0-0 and who "would be" the best. In that case Gamboa because of his Amateur background. But honestly p4p Zab is/was better than the 3. Heres a fun fight, Broner vs. Gamboa at 140lbs. :boxing:

Great Thread OP! First lets eliminate Broner: His natural ability was fast hands and a good punch which does not carry up. Having a good beard and the ability to get hit are secondary, they don't show elite talent in and of themselves. Judah and Gamboa is a more interesting comparison. Gamboa like most of the Cuban fighters, did not make the exterior adjustments necessary to stay hungry and at the top of his game. Cuban fighters are always well trained so, when they have real talent and the ability to make adjustments they are a force to be reckoned with...If you took odinaire Solis and Yori Gamboa and put a mean old Cuban Trainer with a bald head, a straw hat and a stare I can't help thinking both men would have gone farther... Judah came up fighting so in some ways had a point of similarity...Zab's father managed him and that might not have been the best thing for Zab. heres my opinion and my ugliness: I have a problem with the light weights...Can't see a man at 130-45 pounds and below being a force of nature...At Zab's level the punches mean something, power means something. Zab was coming up and into a premiere class of punchers. Zab was very talented, fast hands, also a good puncher. Zab just didn't have a killer instinct in my opinion.

zab, gamboa, broner

Name one good fighter Cory Spinks had a win over BY THE TIME JUDAH FOUGHT HIM. I'll wait. What's with the shouting, and what the hell does that have to do with being a journeyman? Do you even know what a journeyman is? You do know he had a unification fight with Mayorga, and became the lineal champion, before beating Zab, right?

I think Zab clearly. Broner at his best wouldnt be able to compete with top welters, hes too small and doesnt throw enough punches. Gamboa was a midget Zab has chin and heart issues.. but his power and handspeed was a problem, he could box as well.

Cory Spinks was essentially a journeyman WHEN JUDAH FOUGHT HIM. Yes. Ummmm....he most certainly wasn't. What the hell sort of alternate universe are you living in?

Cory Spinks was essentially a journeyman WHEN JUDAH FOUGHT HIM. Yes. Witter was basically a bum when Judah fought him. Constantly going the distance, two draws...LOL...then fought a bunch of setups until he ran into a brick wall named Timothy Bradley. Bradley fought Witter at Witter's peak. THAT is a decisive win. Let's try this again. Name a fighter - SEASONED FIGHTER - that Zab Judah beat IN THEIR PRIME, DECISIVELY, that is a better fighter than Antonio DeMarco. You won't find any. Judah either beat them when they were bums, beat them when they were journeymen, or got beat by them. zab fought Witter before Bradley did. so wtf are you talking about? and demarco is a bum that has no wins on his resume. matthysse > demarco