I mean we had May/Pac for years.
Now we have Cnelo vs Glovkin.
In the not so distant past we had Gatti vs Ward.
Then came Pac vs Morales, Pac vs Marquez...
We even had Rios vs Alvarado.
We also had Ward vs Kovalev that kept some fans intrigued,
albeit temporarily.
It's been a good way for these guys to make good money
not to mention it's been a good promotional vehicle for both
and made them relevant.
So why can't these other dormant fighters do the same?
Instead of leeching off of someone else's popularity.
There's Andrade vs Lara, for example.
There's Jacobs vs Jermall.
If Jermell vs Lubin turns out to be competitive and action packed,
then these guys could strike gold.
You know where I'm going with this?
This is a significant thread that needs to be bumped.
The premise is simple. Fighters don't really need the Canelos, Cottos, GGGs, Pacquaios, Mayweathers... to become big, relatively.
All they need is to find a rival similar to the Gatti/Ward, Morales/Barrera, etc. rivalries, as some examples.
Rivalry in a promotional sense, not in a bitter sense.
Ward/Gatti became the best of friends in just the 2nd fight.
If Lubin wins and beats Charlo, or at least managed to deliver a competitive performance, this thread's premise would be proven.
As already mentioned, there are other potential rivalries like Jermall vs Jacobs, Andrade vs Lara, which is gone, gone, gone...
I log in to this forum and I see the same names being discussed.
Glovkin, Cnelo, Ward, Kov, Pac, May, etc.
Some of them are retired, just fought recently, what have you.
As if they'll be back anytime soon.
But I'm still hoping someone comes out of the blue without having to fight a popular guy.
Right now Lubin might be that guy.
Jermell could be elevated but not as much as Lubin if he wins.
This is similar to the Andrade vs Lara rivalry.
Or Jacobs vs Jermall Charlo.
Showtime needs to step up and make these other rivalries happen next year.
There's also Rigo vs Loma that could develop into a rivalry,
that is if the fight happens to be competitive or Rigo wins.
These guys don't have to look for fights and a trilogies could ensue.
Thus rewarded decent paycheck.
I want to see Cuadras vs Estrada 2.
Good rivalry.
Or Estrada vs the guy who beat Chocolatito twice. What's his name?
We need new names in this sport. New rivalries.
We log in to this forum and we see the same names everyday,
Glovkin, Cnelo, Glovkin, Cnelo, etc. They never get tired of it.
There are hundreds of fighters and everyone seems waiting to get a shot at some mythical superstar or something.
They don't realize the gold is right in their own backyard.
I'll be bumping up this thread when I see signs of new rivalries developing.
Rivalries that don't involve big stars, and has the potential of becoming FOTYs.
These guys like Lara don't know what they're missing.
Lara and Andrade, for instance, would have helped themselves each other out promoting themselves. Think about it! They could even strike gold.
There's also Jacobs and Jermall.
Right now Lubin vs Jermell has that potential.
Lubin has to either win this fight or make it very competitive.
If Lubin wins, I don't see Charlo not being interested in a rematch after all the denigration he's been treating this fight.
Lara vs Andrade would have been a good rivalry. And they would have helped each other out in marketing themselves considering these clowns' abysmal condition.
Just pray for a miracle that Gausha KO's Lara.
Lara vs Andrade would have been a good rivalry. And they would have helped each other out in marketing themselves considering these clowns' abysmal condition.
So we got the Loma vs Rigo nailed on December 9, 2017.
A rivalry that makes sense more for Rigo than Loma.
If it turns out well, a potential trilogy could happen.
They could strike gold without having to look for another fighter for the next year.
See how it makes sense to have a partner instead of doing it alone and struggle to make it big?
Jacobs vs Jermall could strike gold.
Lara vs Andrade.
Lubin vs Jermell, which, fortunately, is just weeks away.
Aren't you guys tired of seeing the same names mentioned everyday?
Glovkin, Cnelo, Cotto, Mayweather, Pacquaio, etc.
That;s why these PBC top fighters are making a big mistake avoiding each other.
They're of the mindset that they need to fight Cotto, Cnelo, etc. to make a name. All they really need is a partner that would help them propel to new heights.
Can't wait for the Lubin vs Charlo fight.
If if turns out good, I'd have made my point.
Crawford Spence soon
I don't think that rivalry would be happening anytime soon.
Spence can't even get fights within his own PBC backyard let alone outside of it.
Like mentioned, such names will be okay with or without rivalries.
That's why this thread is really more about guys like the Charlo brothers, Williams, Andrade, Lara, Lubin, Jacobs, etc.
There's potential explosion pairing these guys up.
Lubin vs Jermell turning out well would revolutionize it.
These guys are not seeing it, but they could strike gold and make the same kind of money established guys have been making.
In other division I see Felix Diaz vs Adrian Granados, etc.
Bottom line is with or without rivalries, Canelo, GGG, Joshua, Wilder, etc. would be okay.
These undercard fighters who have been struggling to make it needs to find another path to make it on their own. They need a partner.
Lara and Andrade, for example, are making a huge mistake avoiding each other.
That's exactly the point.
These guys have to recognize that the gold is right within their own backyard.
They don't have to wait for Canelo or Cotto's attention.
I'm hoping Lubin vs Charlo would turn out well.
Even better if Lubin wins, though I doubt it.
What or who are they waiting on anyways?
Why not fight each other and assert dominance?
These are good wins.
They could actually chart their own careers by pairing up with each other and not have to wait for some superstar to come in to their lives.
Exactly.
Can't Green k u just yet.
Ah ok ok ok I get you.
And its funny that you named certain fighters who should be fighting each other.
That's exactly the point.
These guys have to recognize that the gold is right within their own backyard.
They don't have to wait for Canelo or Cotto's attention.
I'm hoping Lubin vs Charlo would turn out well.
Even better if Lubin wins, though I doubt it.
What or who are they waiting on anyways?
Why not fight each other and assert dominance?
These are good wins.
They could actually chart their own careers by pairing up with each other and not have to wait for some superstar to come in to their lives.
I'm probably not making myself clear enough.
All these fighters you guys have been mentioning were already established.
Relatively speaking.
Most of them could headline fights on their own.
I was thinking of fighters that can't seem to make it despite being in the sport for too long. And the obvious solution, imho, would be coming up with good pairings.
I already mentioned Lubin vs Charlo, Andrade vs Lara, Jacobs vs Charlo2 are good examples.
Meaning there's no GGG, Canelo, Cotto in the mix.
Pairings that could launch their stardom in new heights without having to depend on someone else's popularity.
Lubin, for example, beating Charlo would be huge.
Same thing with either Lara/Andrade or Charlo/Jacobs.
Ah ok ok ok I get you.
And its funny that you named certain fighters who should be fighting each other.
Charlos v Lara v Andrade should all have happened by now but they are all too busy being inactive or fighting nobodied. Heck, some of those guys are under the same dman management lol It's their own fault no one gives a **** about them.
The same can be said for the difficulties and lack of intent in getting Thurman v Spence going or Spence v Porter, or throwing Khan into that mix. Again, all under the same damn management. Heck, thurman v Porter was delayed multiple times...none of these guys are superstars (barring Khan to a certain extent) so the whole, bs, we need to marinate crap doesnt apply either.
Again, no one to blame but themselves.
GGG is a recognisable name because he beat the best mws of his generation. Canelo is a name because he went through a string of very good 154 pounders and is 1-1 against future HOFers.
Canelo is younger than Lara right? Charlos? Andrade?
Pathetic.
GGG v Canelo can carry on if the fight is competitive.
AJ v Wilder/Fury is going to be entertaining if and when.
Frampton v LSC is unfinished business, Frampton v Quigg 2 possibly, all the guys at super fly.
Tonnes of rivalries left.
I'm probably not making myself clear enough.
All these fighters you guys have been mentioning were already established.
Relatively speaking.
Most of them could headline fights on their own.
I was thinking of fighters that can't seem to make it despite being in the sport for too long. And the obvious solution, imho, would be coming up with good pairings.
I already mentioned Lubin vs Charlo, Andrade vs Lara, Jacobs vs Charlo2 are good examples.
Meaning there's no GGG, Canelo, Cotto in the mix.
Pairings that could launch their stardom in new heights without having to depend on someone else's popularity.
Lubin, for example, beating Charlo would be huge.
Same thing with either Lara/Andrade or Charlo/Jacobs.