If Andre Ward fought Kovalev in a neutral location with neutral officials..

Agreed about Ward relying on home advantage all the time. Also if both Kovalev fights went exactly as they did but in Russia instead of America then Kov would be an unbeaten champ and p4p number 1 Having said that I think kovs done. He didn't show the heart of a champ. Lows blows or not he didn't react angrily enough just went out without a fight

That's an excellent point. Just look at the history of Ward's career.....never given up ANY kind of concession to the opponent. During the Super 6, ALL of the other boxers fought in the other man's backyard except Ward.

He would have lost the 1st fight and the second he would have gotten a few minutes and Ward would have gotten a point off.

Kovalev is superior to Ward. The judges won the first fight, the referee won the second. Ward was low blowing from the 2nd round because he doesn't know how to box properly. I'm just praying that I get to see the cheating c*nt knocked clean out before he retires.

Ward would beat up Kovalev anywhere, he's a better fighter and if they fought for a third time I think he'd win in a similar fashion maybe with more dominance.

If those were the stipulations do you think he would have taken the fight? That's an excellent point.

I need to rewatch this fight. I forgot how bad Ward was giving him the work. he was giving him so much work that the scorecards were even, before the testicular knock out :lol1:

really? round 10 to ward when it was a dominant kov round? thats pretty unfair dont you think? and the ref ignored clear low blows and told kov to keep fighting? thats fair how? oh yeah and he mind boggingly stopped the fight after 3 straight low blows. that was fair? you can pretend that it didnt happen all you want but those things happened.Round 10 was a round that could have gone either way. It went to Ward on the judges scorecard, that is a FACT. The shots Ward landed on Kovalev were borderline shots. Borderline means borderline, look up the definition if you have to. Kovalev did get hit with a CLEAN body shot at one point in the fight and folded up while complaining to the ref, Ward backed off, let the ref make his judgement and then went back to work when it was confirmed legal by the ref, and to us fans confirmed legal on the replay. That is also a FACT. Right before the fight ended, Ward hit Kovalev with borderline shots and Kovalev bent forward because of how badly he was hurt by them. Bending forward like this will make shots look lower than they actually are due to body position, and it may also make body shots stray lower than intended due to the body position. Another FACT. How can you pretend that Ward didn't beat Kovalev in the first fight by decision and then didn't come back to stop him in the second fight?

None of these were low son and watch how kovalev crying wanting some help lmfao MAN IT THE **** OFF! Kovalev officially kicked off the WAR TEAM! We dont accept no bitchies and we dont really care to argue with bitch sympathizers either! SO DEAL WITH IT AND FUCK OFF! https://i.imgur.com/SoqQb2D.gif https://i.imgur.com/C8YZiIR.gif I need to rewatch this fight. I forgot how bad Ward was giving him the work.

If ward fought kesssler and kovalev in their backyards he would have 3 losses. 2 DQ and one decision loss. The kessler figh was the worste

1-2-3-4 or whatever the ref would of considered it still would of made some kind of difference His way was not working I would of went down maybe could of changed something anything Maybe they would look harder(judges or ref) at these low blows I thought most were legal and not ignorant he probably did get some low but him bending over did not help that situation you think kovalev could afford to take a knockdown after how they robbed him in the first fight? no way. there was no good option for him the ref is supposed to be there to protect the fighters but he let a couple clear low blows go and stopped the fight on low blows. it was a terrible performance from weeks but he did what he was supposed to. this same guy let danny garcia low blow mattysse the entire fight and let him rabbit punch him into the ropes and knock him down instead of seeing the foul

did i say their wasnt low blows? kovalev started bitching and crying before any really strayed low. Kovalev bitching and crying about fake low blows is what allowed ward to get away with real low blows. Kovalev lack of heart and balls is what made the coward fold up and look for a way out. they werent fake.... i mean we have the video. every time he complained and bent over he was clearly hit low so i dont think this is going anywhere. you are just going to say the same thing which flys in the face of reality. you are just going to call him a coward because ward was able to get away with low blowing him. really shocking but some people dont care as long as their guy wins. same thing happened to floyd and the ref stopped the fight as he should. floyd was not a coward and lookign for a way out. he was getting a rest like he should. same rules should apply to kovalev but they didnt and thatas the whole problem.

He would lose.

1-2-3-4 or whatever the ref would of considered it still would of made some kind of difference His way was not working I would of went down maybe could of changed something anything Maybe they would look harder(judges or ref) at these low blows I thought most were legal and not ignorant he probably did get some low but him bending over did not help that situation

Well if he got hit so many times why not drop to a knee at least once Seeing that his *****ing and staring at ref did not work thats an option but i think we both know what would have happened if he did that. he would have heard the ref say "1, 2, 3, 4, etc..." and you would have said ward dropped him with body shots since you are ignoring that they were low now. i assume you would keep ignoring them. thats why its so hard to beat ward. the corruption is overwhelming. even if you get by his dirty tactics and deserve to win the judges are still there as the last line of defense. hes the flagship fighter for "you gotta knock him out to win"

Well if he got hit so many times why not drop to a knee at least once Seeing that his *****ing and staring at ref did not work

And turning of the back? That's against the rules too, but cock gobblers like yourself only selectively pick moments to compare to rules. QUITvalev didn't whine one bit after the stoppage. Hell he looked RELIEVED. he turned his back because he was low blowed. your argument makes no sense. so when ward hit barrera with a low blow and barrera fell to the canvas in pain it was actually a knockdown? you are only focusing on how the fighter reacts and not why he reacted in that way. biased crap. according to your own argument flyod quit against judah. thats if you were consistent of course but you arent. you twist yourself into a pretzel depending on if you like a guy or not.

He did look relieved at the end of the second fight That's for damn sure

If they fought a third time in a neutral place with neutral judges and referee I would pick Ward to win. After two fights he knows how to beat Kovalev. it says neutral location. how in a neutral location is he going to beat him? remember the first time was a robbery and the second time was by low blows. in a neutral location those obv wouldnt be allowed.

Not to mention CRYvalev turning his back on Ward in round 8 and crying to the ref during round 7 essentially "asking for help". There was almost no way for QUITvalev to win the 2nd fight, however, a very real case can be made for the 1st fight. At this point in time Ward definitely wins a 3rd fight even if it's in Russia. Ward exposed the soft body of QUITvalev and Sergio just doesn't have the tools to change much of anything. Regarding the 1st fight...Sergio wins if it's Russia for sure he was "crying" because he was being low blowed. its been reviewed and proven they were low. the ref said keep fighting which was a complete joke. the ref then stopped the fight on 3 straight low blows. so now low blows are legal punches and if a guy stops hes crying? boxing fandom has gone out of control. you just dont care about the rules