Margarito packing plaster vs Maravilla Martinez?

Mosley was PI$$ED too...he couldn't hurt Shane because he hardly landed a clean shot...Shane beat absolute fvck out of that cheating cyclops pr1ck and then Manny finished him off...ive never enjoyed watching a man get hurt so much in my life watching both fights...pure justice. :lol1: yes he was pissed! If you look at the fight, Margarito landed a few good shots but with no effect on Mosley whatsoever!

Well, he did drop Robert Garcia on his comeback fight after the suspension, and Cotto said that his punches felt the same after the second fight

Hmmm. I recall marg getting caught with something inside his glove and subsequently gettting suspended by the professional commission due to the substance in his gloves. I could be misrecalling doe. Someone please confirm my recollection or refresh my memory. I think they found a sponge in the wrapping as well which makes things look real bad imo. Plaster on just wraps would likely crack and fall apart, plaster hardening a sponge would definitely pack a punch.

Mosley was PI$$ED too...he couldn't hurt Shane because he hardly landed a clean shot...Shane beat absolute fvck out of that cheating cyclops pr1ck and then Manny finished him off...ive never enjoyed watching a man get hurt so much in my life watching both fights...pure justice. cheating cyclops prick :rofl: war everybody that whooped his ass after he was caught :headbang:. i feel the worst for cintron. the rest of these guys al made a ton of money in spite of the cheating. cintron's career basically never took off because of margarito. biggest shame to boxing was what could have been with miguel cotto. he was never the same after margarito, and still had a tremendous career. shows you how good he was.

Great point. Normal punches with gloves don't rip and shred ears apart like that. Not even Mike Tyson's biting of Holyfield's ear looked as bad as Lujan's ear. if he had a cauliflower ear prior to the fight or developed swelling it's possible that a thumb could have brust it. seen it in other combat sports where bascially everybody has cauliflower ears from wrestling. that said, it's a known cheating f#ck who got popped by an athletic commission and suspended, so i agree that it was probably a product of tampering.

Some people are still in complete denial about this. Margarito had just KOed Cotto, and Cotto was undefeated at that time and no one had anything for him. Margarito's next fight was with Mosley, 37 years old at the time, when he was caught with the wraps. He was hurting everyone before Mosley, but all of a sudden, he couldn't even beat a worn out Mosley, let alone hurt him? After the wrap scandal he has not KOed anyone! He was ballsy enough to try and put the wraps on while Naseem was watching. You guys forget that they made him take off the original wraps, because they were finished wrapping him with Naseem came in, then they tried to wrap him again with plaster in front of Naseem. If he was confident enough to do it in front of him, then surely he has done it in the past. There is a documentary where a guy states he is blind in one eye because Margarito had used plaster on him during sparring. Mosley was PI$$ED too...he couldn't hurt Shane because he hardly landed a clean shot...Shane beat absolute fvck out of that cheating cyclops pr1ck and then Manny finished him off...ive never enjoyed watching a man get hurt so much in my life watching both fights...pure justice.

Some people are still in complete denial about this. Margarito had just KOed Cotto, and Cotto was undefeated at that time and no one had anything for him. Margarito's next fight was with Mosley, 37 years old at the time, when he was caught with the wraps. He was hurting everyone before Mosley, but all of a sudden, he couldn't even beat a worn out Mosley, let alone hurt him? After the wrap scandal he has not KOed anyone! He was ballsy enough to try and put the wraps on while Naseem was watching. You guys forget that they made him take off the original wraps, because they were finished wrapping him with Naseem came in, then they tried to wrap him again with plaster in front of Naseem. If he was confident enough to do it in front of him, then surely he has done it in the past. There is a documentary where a guy states he is blind in one eye because Margarito had used plaster on him during sparring.

I agree. There is zero proof his gloves were loaded for any fight.He hit Cotto in the head a few hundred times in the first fight. If he was wearing "bricks" then Cotto should have been knocked out cold with a hell of a lot fewer punches than that. It's not like Cotto has an iron jaw because he doesn't. Margarito hit hard and he hit often. He didn't need loaded gloves to knock guys out.As Martinez himself said, Margarito knocked him out fair and square. Uhh, except that his own trainer admitted to it and Margarito's own managers said they had seen Capetillo load Margarito's gloves up and never said anything until he was actually caught. Margarito/Capetillo were caught red handed and now people are playing revisionist history. LOL.

Exactly... If I am not mistaken he only got "banned" for 1 year and only in one state. Didn't he fight in Mexico the same year? The athletic commissions or sanctioning bodies didn't take it seriously either because they knew that it was a whole lotta nothing turned into something because it was "Brotha" nazim who "caught him." "Under the ruling, both the fighter and trainer will able to apply for license reinstatement in one year, but in the meantime will not be able to participate in boxing in the state of California or any other US jurisdiction"

I'm not sure when he started but he definitely tried cheating in the Mosley fight, anyone trying to make him a saint for that is being biased. The truth is Margarito brought good ratings and had a big time promoter in Top Rank, he also had money for good lawyers. That should tell you if he got banned "just cause of brotha naz". If he was truly innocent, there would've been no 1 year banishment, or he would've sued all parties involved to clear his name from slander, ruining his career and preventing him to lose out on money for 1 year, and even emotional distress. But Margarito didn't do any of that because of the evidence that was piled against him to ban him. And btw he couldn't fight in ANY state, all state's athletic commissions respect one states ban on a fighter, hence why he fought in Mexico and not in the United States. On top of the evidence they had of him trying to cheat, his own trainer Javier Capetillo admitted to loading Margarito's gloves and saying it's his fault and Margarito did not know he was cheating with the handwraps. Capetillo said that Margarito's management team knew about the loaded handwrapping before the Mosley fight but never said anything, and that when he was caught, they threw him under the bus. Innocent my ass. https://www.******.com/124655-capetillo-breaks-silence-apologizes-for-hand-wrap-scandal/ r-i-n-g-tv between www. and .com Brother Naz fault doe, innocent doe, no loaded wraps doe. Thanks for the link sir..........

No he wasnt loaded. Even for Mosley, they only found a pinch of substance, a fkin pinch. Its annoying when these ignorant dudes who dont know sht about boxing talk about plasters and sht as if dude was caught with brass knuckles or somesht. Margarito is innocentI agree. There is zero proof his gloves were loaded for any fight.He hit Cotto in the head a few hundred times in the first fight. If he was wearing "bricks" then Cotto should have been knocked out cold with a hell of a lot fewer punches than that. It's not like Cotto has an iron jaw because he doesn't. Margarito hit hard and he hit often. He didn't need loaded gloves to knock guys out.As Martinez himself said, Margarito knocked him out fair and square.

I'm not sure when he started but he definitely tried cheating in the Mosley fight, anyone trying to make him a saint for that is being biased. The truth is Margarito brought good ratings and had a big time promoter in Top Rank, he also had money for good lawyers. That should tell you if he got banned "just cause of brotha naz". If he was truly innocent, there would've been no 1 year banishment, or he would've sued all parties involved to clear his name from slander, ruining his career and preventing him to lose out on money for 1 year, and even emotional distress. But Margarito didn't do any of that because of the evidence that was piled against him to ban him. And btw he couldn't fight in ANY state, all state's athletic commissions respect one states ban on a fighter, hence why he fought in Mexico and not in the United States. On top of the evidence they had of him trying to cheat, his own trainer Javier Capetillo admitted to loading Margarito's gloves and saying it's his fault and Margarito did not know he was cheating with the handwraps. None of this was his fault. I’m responsible for everything that happened because I’m the one who wrapped his hands. It was my mistake.” Although Capetillo said he deserved the California commission’s punishment, he still feels that Margarito’s management team, headed by Sergio Diaz and Francisco Espinoza, could have supported him more during and after the hearing. Capetillo said that Margarito's management team knew about the loaded handwrapping before the Mosley fight but never said anything, and that when he was caught, they threw him under the bus. Innocent my ass. https://www.******.com/124655-capetillo-breaks-silence-apologizes-for-hand-wrap-scandal/ r-i-n-g-tv between www. and .com Brother Naz fault doe, innocent doe, no loaded wraps doe.

Ya I think marg was def cheating in the martinez fight as well. Once you get caught cheating once your whole career is questioned. FACT

Exactly... If I am not mistaken he only got "banned" for 1 year and only in one state. Didn't he fight in Mexico the same year? The athletic commissions or sanctioning bodies didn't take it seriously either because they knew that it was a whole lotta nothing turned into something because it was "Brotha" nazim who "caught him." Being allowed to fight in Mexico is absolutely not a reflection of innocence. In a sport full of corruption, sh*t south of the border is the worst. Hell, this is the same country that let Margo get licensed to fight, despite clear physical restrictions, then bailing the guy out mid-fight when he's getting pasted. I understand aversion to circumstantial evidence, but...believing Margo is clean is pretty much burying your head in the sand.

The Sebastian Lujan fight is where he started doing it. He went from getting clearly outboxed and not even being able to move Daniel Santos, to almost ripping a dude's ear off with his punches. As soon as they caught him doing it against Mosley all of a sudden he couldn't crack an egg. He looked feather-fisted against Shane and couldn't even hurt anyone he fought after that fight. Those of you who are seriously think he's innocent and didn't do it need to be slapped, seriously. http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I0000Cxr6ftBGVP0/fit=1000x750/margarito-lujan.jpg Great point. Normal punches with gloves don't rip and shred ears apart like that. Not even Mike Tyson's biting of Holyfield's ear looked as bad as Lujan's ear.

Hmmm. I recall marg getting caught with something inside his glove and subsequently gettting suspended by the professional commission due to the substance in his gloves. I could be misrecalling doe. Someone please confirm my recollection or refresh my memory. Ummm......yes'sir. He was caught with plaster of paris substance in his wraps and suspended, you're not dreaming it. But I'm sure that was his only time trying to do that. I mean why would he have used loaded wraps in his previous fight against a guy who had already beat Mosley. Hey, it makes sense to me.

The Sebastian Lujan fight is where he started doing it. He went from getting clearly outboxed and not even being able to move Daniel Santos, to almost ripping a dude's ear off with his punches. As soon as they caught him doing it against Mosley all of a sudden he couldn't crack an egg. He looked feather-fisted against Shane and couldn't even hurt anyone he fought after that fight. Those of you who are seriously think he's innocent and didn't do it need to be slapped, seriously. http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I0000Cxr6ftBGVP0/fit=1000x750/margarito-lujan.jpg

Nah, Martinez was really inexperienced back then when he fought Margacheato. Martinez only had 16 wins on his record when he fought Margacheato so it was Martinez inexperience. I don't believe Margacheato used plaster wraps his whole career. Alot of people think Margacheato used plaster wraps during the early to mid 2000's. Alot of other people think he started loading up his gloves after the Paul Williams loss to get himself back up there. He didn't load up his whole career, but for certain fights and during a certain stint in his career he did. Some can say otherwise, but I'm pretty sure he did.

No he wasnt loaded. Even for Mosley, they only found a pinch of substance, a fkin pinch. Its annoying when these ignorant dudes who dont know sht about boxing talk about plasters and sht as if dude was caught with brass knuckles or somesht. Margarito is innocent Exactly... If I am not mistaken he only got "banned" for 1 year and only in one state. Didn't he fight in Mexico the same year? The athletic commissions or sanctioning bodies didn't take it seriously either because they knew that it was a whole lotta nothing turned into something because it was "Brotha" nazim who "caught him."

No he wasnt loaded. Even for Mosley, they only found a pinch of substance, a fkin pinch. Its annoying when these ignorant dudes who dont know sht about boxing talk about plasters and sht as if dude was caught with brass knuckles or somesht. Margarito is innocent Hmmm. I recall marg getting caught with something inside his glove and subsequently gettting suspended by the professional commission due to the substance in his gloves. I could be misrecalling doe. Someone please confirm my recollection or refresh my memory.