White Americans in Boxing and MMA

I don't know if the guy isn't simply trolling... But as of your post above: boxing back then was largely segregated in the U.S., and you know that... (not to mention the influence of the mobsters in the sport)... That's kind of true, but Lamotta & Basillio both beat Sugar Ray Robinson, when that meant something.

Are you seriously claiming that Mikael Kessler is better than Willie Pepe, Benny Leonard, Tony Canzoneri, Jake Lamotta, Carmen Basillio, and the ton of great White American boxers there were in the early to mid 20th century? Seriously? Where's all these lamottas and willie peps now? Anglos got soft. It's not a disrespect, maybe it's even a compliment that they don't have to do some **** like that to get rich

I'm tired of people saying that white Americans can't fight! Yeah, Rocky Marciano was Italian, and yeah, Stipe Miocic is Croatian, but we got lots of other good fighters! What about Paulie Malignaggi, Chris Algiere and Butterbean? And before boxing became an international sport, before black Americans started to properly participate, white Americans were actually the best boxers in the world! Europe may have Klitschko, McGregor, Miocic, Marciano, Froch, Kessler, Calzaghe, Lomachenko, etc., but truly, the best white fighters are always from America! (This was not meant as trolling, merely stating the obvious so someone hopefully can explain to me WHY white Americans are so bad at fighting. And don't give me that **** about "they don't box as much as black Americans", lol, Denmark is a tiny European country with barely 6 million people, and they have Kessler, who is better than any white American ever was). Honestly, McGregor is a better boxer than any white American. He has already destroyed Malignaggi, if he also destroys Algieri, then McGregor has proven to be superior to any white American man. White Americans aren't poor enough to risk their lives boxing. THey do wrestle, which is why you see more in MMA. In the U.S. at least, boxing gyms are placed in the POOREST of neighborhoods. COICIDENCE?????NO. Their the only people desperate enough to box for money lol

People should watch the movie "the great white hype" from 1996

No one able to explain it?

... I'm neither "right" nor "wrong"... when it comes to "Power" it isn't about "right" or "wrong"... it's only about who has the the right tools in order to exercise "Power"... well... that right may be up soon according to nature. but have a good one mate! peace

In short, for the crowd is NSB Americans of European heritage are soft. It's a cultural thing, it appears to the outsider that boxing, and boxing gyms are an inner city thing for underprivileged kids (who in America are often "minorities") where sport as in other cultures is seen as a way out to make good money. Privileged classes don't put their kids in combat sports, they take the route of tennis for example. Jews are one of the wealthiest if not the wealthiest ethnicity in USA, they used to fight along with the Italians 100 years ago in the States, but now they have moved up, they went from hard to "soft", which is not a bad thing. The reason you see an influx of fighters from Eastern Europe is because the region is poor, most Eastern Europeans have less cash on hand and even fewer opportunities to make money than some people in US projects. True average salary in countries like Ukraine and Russia is 150-300$ a month. In Ukraine for example many men go to Western countries to lay bricks and drive trucks. Eastern Europe culturally also values sport, for this you can thank the Soviet Union which pushed sport on everyone to use as propaganda of its superiority to the West. Gym class in Ukraine in the 5rd grade was 10x harder than what I did in Canada in the 9th grade. And it had a hard approach, if you failed you didn't get a pass, you were held back etc. There is also simply a culture of "boys fight" were in Canada at least it's labeled as unexceptionable. You could have fought in a Ukrainian school and teachers would simply separate you, where here you get suspended or expelled for any show of aggression. It all comes down to culture, the well to do folks don't get into sports like boxing, this is the rule, but there are always exceptions. How does that explain that little UK has produced more good white fighters than USA ever has? Are white English people like the poor ghetto negroes in USA, poor and from hard conditions? Come on, bro. White Americans are the worst white people at all when it comes to fighting.

well u may be wrong.. look at the condition of it under their rule, a hole in the ozone layer, pedophile rings everywhere, poison water, oil leaks, fukshima, everyone has cancer, disease, chem trails, a psych med industry that kills billions, federal reserve has everyone including you in slavery, I can keep going... u may want to reconsider your opinion... lol ... I'm neither "right" nor "wrong"... when it comes to "Power" it isn't about "right" or "wrong"... it's only about who has the the right tools in order to exercise "Power"...

In short, for the crowd is NSB Americans of European heritage are soft. It's a cultural thing, it appears to the outsider that boxing, and boxing gyms are an inner city thing for underprivileged kids (who in America are often "minorities") where sport as in other cultures is seen as a way out to make good money. Privileged classes don't put their kids in combat sports, they take the route of tennis for example. Jews are one of the wealthiest if not the wealthiest ethnicity in USA, they used to fight along with the Italians 100 years ago in the States, but now they have moved up, they went from hard to "soft", which is not a bad thing. The reason you see an influx of fighters from Eastern Europe is because the region is poor, most Eastern Europeans have less cash on hand and even fewer opportunities to make money than some people in US projects. True average salary in countries like Ukraine and Russia is 150-300$ a month. In Ukraine for example many men go to Western countries to lay bricks and drive trucks. Eastern Europe culturally also values sport, for this you can thank the Soviet Union which pushed sport on everyone to use as propaganda of its superiority to the West. Gym class in Ukraine in the 5rd grade was 10x harder than what I did in Canada in the 9th grade. And it had a hard approach, if you failed you didn't get a pass, you were held back etc. There is also simply a culture of "boys fight" were in Canada at least it's labeled as unexceptionable. You could have fought in a Ukrainian school and teachers would simply separate you, where here you get suspended or expelled for any show of aggression. It all comes down to culture, the well to do folks don't get into sports like boxing, this is the rule, but there are always exceptions.

... there's no need to "pity" the whites :) ... Whites still control the world and this isn't gonna change soon... well u may be wrong.. look at the condition of it under their rule, a hole in the ozone layer, pedophile rings everywhere, poison water, oil leaks, fukshima, everyone has cancer, disease, chem trails, a psych med industry that kills billions, federal reserve has everyone including you in slavery, I can keep going... u may want to reconsider your opinion... lol

whites love shiiet talker, they only act like they dont because most of the shiiet talker right now are black athletes. Good point. Lol.

If we go by what "white" actually means in modern context eg. a Western European with colonial racial past, then Slavs aren't white either. So you don't consider northern Europeans white? Those Swedish people are pale as paper and blonde as the sun.

I bet they slap your balding ass head and steal your rogaine. I bet they chase you and steal your shoes. Oh wait, I don't have to bet. I know this for a fact because you said so yourself.

Seriously though, white identity is totally artificial and applies to European cultures with colonial past only. If we go by strictly biological "racial" terms and include every Europid person as white then Roberto Duran is probably the greatest "white" fighter ever. If we go by what "white" actually means in modern context eg. a Western European with colonial racial past, then Slavs aren't white either. As a Slavic man I never identified myself as "white", we're Slavic and better than any white people anywhere, we're superior to Western Europeans. Being "white" never mattered here, most of our historic enemies were white racially and our current enemies are Western liberals who are also whities so who gives a ****. None of my ancestors identified as "white" and couldn't care less about non-Slavic white people. I would prefer a black or Mexican America over a white America because it was the white America that dropped bombs on my Slavic brothers in Serbia and it's white America that pushes and finances liberalism and other anti-Slavic agendas.

Canelo and Andre Ward are the best white American fighters right now.

Look at Gervonta, he comes from Baltimore. Boxing is better than anything that hellhole has to offer him. It's all about location and most black people in America live in areas worse than third world shanty towns. Compare how blacks are treated in America to the UK. Simply put, UK is a pure meritocracy, America is not despite it's bullsh1t claims of freedom. "How is it that we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of negroes? " - Samuel Johnson, 1775 Blacks arent treated bad If you go by any reliable statistics. If you had any education you would know how statistics & probability works. now post some statistics proving your point instead of some stupid ass quote!

i believe the opposite. they will embrace it and praise that!! look at ronda and mcgregor. they only hate floyd because he's not white. like i said if conor was an american, he would be god to them. there is no great white fighters right now, you cant expect white americans to fully stand by guys like chris algieri lol. look at manny, a lot of whites jump on the bandwagon just because he was suppose to be the one to beat floyd. you dont really think they support manny because they really like him? they support him because he was suppose to shut the loud mouth black guy up. Ronda was embraced when she was seen as the girl next door. The more arrogant she got people couldn't wait for her to lose. She became a meme when Holly kicked her in the head. If McGregor was American he wouldn't be embraced as much. Why do you think white athletes like Brady and P. Manning try so hard to come off as Boy Scouts? They know if they were sh$t talkers they'd be (unfairly) lumped in with the stereotypical black athlete.

idk what your point is. I'm not biased or anything, but I like that Floyd Mayweather is black. And that's all that really matters.

I'm tired of people saying that white Americans can't fight! Yeah, Rocky Marciano was Italian, and yeah, Stipe Miocic is Croatian, but we got lots of other good fighters! What about Paulie Malignaggi, Chris Algiere and Butterbean? And before boxing became an international sport, before black Americans started to properly participate, white Americans were actually the best boxers in the world! Europe may have Klitschko, McGregor, Miocic, Marciano, Froch, Kessler, Calzaghe, Lomachenko, etc., but truly, the best white fighters are always from America! (This was not meant as trolling, merely stating the obvious so someone hopefully can explain to me WHY white Americans are so bad at fighting. And don't give me that **** about "they don't box as much as black Americans", lol, Denmark is a tiny European country with barely 6 million people, and they have Kessler, who is better than any white American ever was). Honestly, McGregor is a better boxer than any white American. He has already destroyed Malignaggi, if he also destroys Algieri, then McGregor has proven to be superior to any white American man. marciano was american. there are no white native americans. who cares if marcianos relatives were italian. If he doesnt count as a white american than nobody does. maciano was born in america and was a product of american boxing gyms. Further, boxing way waaaaay bigger in america than italy during that period... if he was born in italy he probably would never have became a boxer. He would probably bake bread rolls or play soccer or some stupid chit. Calling him an italian fighter is the dumbest thing I ever heard. Hes no more an italian fighter than paulie m.

whats going on with whites over the past 3 years they have become the biggest victims in the world based on just a little criticism lololol ... there's no need to "pity" the whites :) ... Whites still control the world and this isn't gonna change soon...