With Crawford proving he's the man at 140 many anticipate he'll move up to 147, but who is there for him there? Horn and Vargas are really the only fights that Top Rank have. He's not getting in there with a PBC guy and PBC has most of the talent at 147. Either Crawford leaves Arum or I anticipate a rough few years for him coming up. Any one know how many fights he owes Arum?
With Crawford proving he's the man at 140 many anticipate he'll move up to 147, but who is there for him there? Horn and Vargas are really the only fights that Top Rank have. He's not getting in there with a PBC guy and PBC has most of the talent at 147. Either Crawford leaves Arum or I anticipate a rough few years for him coming up. Any one know how many fights he owes Arum?
Crawford will be able to fight any of those guys without a problem.
Well, Crawford has fought 2 Haymon fighters, John Molina and Felix Diaz. I have not doubt Arum would be running out of opponents for an active guy like Crawford and start considering Thurman, Porter, Garcia, etc.
I'll be LMAO if I see any of these PBC fighters making excuses not to fight Crawford. We'll see.
It's easy to say, "Oh Bud should leave Arum, blah blah" and join PBC. Question is would they fight him without pricing themselves out?
So where to then Larry? You want him to LEAVE TOP RANK ASAP!!!!
To where? Where do you suggest? Not Haymon, cos you just said that you didn't mention Haymon. So we rule out Haymon.
So where else? I mean, I assume you have a logical plan if you think he should leave TOP RANK ASAP.
Let's hear this plan that doesn't involve you thinking he should sign with Al Haymon.
Just be a free agent and go fight by fight
Well, why don't you start asking these PBC fighters if they want a shot at Crawford? Start with Swift, then Porter, Berto, etc. I doubt they would want any piece of that high risk low reward stuff.
Why do you keep coming to me with who fights for whom??? I AM NOT A FAN OF PROMOTERS!!... I just want fighters to be able to fight the best available fighters
Dont care who likes it or not..he needs to be able to fight everyone in his division
Well, why don't you start asking these PBC fighters if they want a shot at Crawford? Start with Swift, then Porter, Berto, etc. I doubt they would want any piece of that high risk low reward stuff.
PBC has all the talent at 147 save Horn and a past it Manny. He'll have to fight PBC fighters if he really wants to be a legend..
I don't even get these silly threads. It's as if PBC fighters would just say yes to Crawford right off the bat when Spence himself is having a hard time looking for a dance partner within his own stable.
So silly.
After that then what?? rematches and trilogies? where did i ever mention Haymon?
That fool has a hateful obsession with anybody who's rich and black. Poor guy LOL
LMAO. Top Rank have guided his career to make him a hometown draw, a unified champ, a star, a pound-for-pound number 1. They've got Pac, Horn, Vargas to feed him, all on ESPN. Top Rank will also have to branch out and grab more fighters if the ESPN deal is any sort of success.
And yet you idiots want him to sign with, who, Haymo For what? To sit on the shelf and fight once a year, get a fight with either Spence or Thurman in 2 or 3 years if he's lucky. Maybe Omar Figueroa now that Guerrero has tired. Oh, let's not forget Berto.
You guys are facking hilarious.
After that then what?? rematches and trilogies? where did i ever mention Haymon?
I'm not even sure if Thurman would have the courage to fight a high risk talent like Crawford. Thurman would most likely say the same thing when they tried to pit him against Spence, "He hasn't earned it yet doe." Swift, Porter, Berto, etc. would reject Crawford as well.
Spence would take Terence, but I highly doubt Crawford would want any part of Spence at this point.
So there's really nothing for him from the Haymon camp. I don't really mind Vargas as one of his 3 fights a year opponent next year if he decides to move up.
PBC has all the talent at 147 save Horn and a past it Manny. He'll have to fight PBC fighters if he really wants to be a legend..
PBC fighters would rather see him stay where he belongs. They want no part Crawford. Doe. Except probably Spence, who is also unwanted himself.
Dont care who likes it or not..he needs to be able to fight everyone in his division
He needs to leave Top Rank NOW!!!!! if he wants to be an ATG..those in house fights are pure bullsh1t
I agree tbh. I think he needs to move to 147 now tbh. He unified at 140 and there's nobody out there that could conceivably beat him at the weight. I think the cold war isn't as bad as people make it out to be. I believe Haymon is willing to work with Arum and vice versa.
He needs to leave Top Rank NOW!!!!! if he wants to be an ATG..those in house fights are pure bullsh1t
PBC fighters would rather see him stay where he belongs. They want no part Crawford. Doe. Except probably Spence, who is also unwanted himself.
If he decides to wait for the Pac/Horn 2 winner, then he's looking at about a year wait. Not good for an active fighter who fights 3 times a year. Obviously, he has to find someone to keep him busy.
Currently he has lucrative options to fight Pacquiao and Horn, which should keep him busy for one year.
In one year many things can change.
Maybe some pbc fighters will look elsewhere, because they are not satisfied with what they get offered anymore.
Or some unknown fighter not signed exclusively to pbc will upset one of the pbc guys and are free to fight crawford.
Pacquiao did the best rating on cable since I dont know and there are reports that the crawford fight was thte second most watched boxing broadcast on cable. if Arum keeps doing good ratings,
he will have more cloud again and will be able to entice some fighters to sign with him.
Or his doctor only gives him a year to live and he buries all his hatchets and tries to do good for boxing and delivers the best and most awesome boxing year there ever was.
You never know, but I dont think Crawford wont be able to get some great fights.
I'm not even sure if Thurman would have the courage to fight a high risk talent like Crawford. Thurman would most likely say the same thing when they tried to pit him against Spence, "He hasn't earned it yet doe." Swift, Porter, Berto, etc. would reject Crawford as well.
Spence would take Terence, but I highly doubt Crawford would want any part of Spence at this point.
So there's really nothing for him from the Haymon camp. I don't really mind Vargas as one of his 3 fights a year opponent next year if he decides to move up.
TR gots some 147lbers to keep Crawford busy & they could potentially parlay Manny & Horn into 2 fight events & a trilogy if either can find a way to beat Crawford which I have a hard time envisioning either guy doing these days. But idk that he's career has ever really been on fire for it to reach a stall point.
I mean look at his resume. For a guy talked of so highly he's resume is pretty garbage if we are being honest about it. And hell thats no shame on him he's done great vs whats been put in front of him & thats all he can really do, but its still not the most exciting resume so it not being an exciting 147lb resume isn't gonna hurt him THAT bad.
His resume isn't the best considering he's talked about as a top 3 guy but he's obviously very talented. But personally none of the TR fights do anything for me. Bradley would have been good.
I'd love to see him against Danny Garcia, Porter, Khan, heck even making him watch Ortiz quit would make me laugh. And beyond that I'd love to see him fight Thurman and Spence. Personally I think Horn and Vargas are garbage.