Ali: The Most Fixed Fighter of All Time

Nobody is talking about Foreman vs Young but you b1tch. FAKE PRO, FAKE NEWS, FAKE POSTS, FAKE LIFE. FAKE UNDEFEATED SPARRING/FAKE GOLDEN GLOVES CHAMP REAL KING OF SPARRING/ REAL GYM-RAT. The only b!tch here is you.

Dude, get a life. Gay? hmm...the only one in here mentioning gay here is you, must be something you're into. Wow, you sound so tough. The King of sparring/ Golden Gloves champ/Gym-Rat/Keyboard Warrior So, again, I guess Jimmy Young beating George Foreman was also fixed right? Nobody is talking about Foreman vs Young but you b1tch. FAKE PRO, FAKE NEWS, FAKE POSTS, FAKE LIFE.

STFU you ***** a$$. Do you realize how gay you look typing "fork" is? Then GTF outta here and let the big boys handle their business or do I have to shut your yap for you, you old liar? Dude, get a life. Gay? hmm...the only one in here mentioning gay here is you, must be something you're into. Wow, you sound so tough. The King of sparring/ Golden Gloves champ/Gym-Rat/Keyboard Warrior So, again, I guess Jimmy Young beating George Foreman was also fixed right?

Enlighten me, what fights do have in question?

The most fixed heavyweight of all time as far as being a winner is Primo Carnera. He did not take dives some of his opponents either fought the "bum" route or fell down. The only fight in question with Ali was the second Liston bout! The knock down was real but Sonny could have risen but didn't! I've seen all of Ali's bouts going back to the Olympics and Ali would NEVER be a part of a fixed fight! Ray

Man, who gives a Fork!? Just a typo beetch & for your info H is for here, as in GET THE FORK OUTTA HERE!. I'm old, i'm not into these little crap stuff. So I suppose Jimmy Young's knockout of Foreman is fixed as well? STFU you ***** a$$. Do you realize how gay you look typing "fork" is? Then GTF outta here and let the big boys handle their business or do I have to shut your yap for you, you old liar?

GTFO is the traditional slang, not sure what the 'H' is for? I was born then you pink maggot. It's STFU NOT STFO you retard! The potential for bias is pretty sizable. I prefer objective resources and you just typed some sh1t anyway, hardly a source annotation. Man, who gives a Fork!? Just a typo beetch & for your info H is for here, as in GET THE FORK OUTTA HERE!. I'm old, i'm not into these little crap stuff. So I suppose Jimmy Young's knockout of Foreman is fixed as well?

gtfo is the traditional slang, not sure what the 'h' is for? I was born then you pink maggot. It's stfu not stfo you retard! The potential for bias is pretty sizable. I prefer objective resources and you just typed some sh1t anyway, hardly a source annotation. lol ......

Your explanation is weak. When your fighting you are on all cylinders, of course you are on high gear, GTFOH! GTFO is the traditional slang, not sure what the 'H' is for? Kid...STFO! You wasn't even born then. You sound like like a conspiracy theorist. GYM-Rat! I was born then you pink maggot. It's STFU NOT STFO you retard! I consider Time magazine reliable. If you don't that's your business. The potential for bias is pretty sizable. I prefer objective resources and you just typed some sh1t anyway, hardly a source annotation.

What a ridiculous post. Now i know why it's been so long since i've been here

Yes, this same Jimmy Young KO Foreman in the 15 round (if my memory serves mi right).No, it was back in 1977. He knocked George Foreman down in the fifteenth round of that bout before defeating and sending him on a ten year hiatus.

The only fight I can truly say was the most fixed that you've failed to mention and left off your list was the Jimmy Young bout Ali had back in 1976. It was by far the most controversial fight of Ali's career in which he had clearly lost but was awarded the decision. Young had a very awkward style. He out landed, out pointed and beat Ali to the punch at will all night. Ali looked old, slow, out of shape with very bad timing. For example, I can't think of a single instance where Ali even landed a clean punch on Jimmy Young for the entire bout.

Yes, this same Jimmy Young KO Foreman in the 15 round (if my memory serves mi right).

I'll give you a slight edge on the word "all" but I shall reformat my comment to the "vast majority" of his punches are arm punches and they are. Foreman has farm boy strength --- something he was born with and has lighting bolt power in both hands. Probably could knock out most men with a back-hand, namsaying? I didn't see a formal source, thus no comment. Just some guy typing something on the internet. I hope this doesn't offend? I wouldn't exactly trust a source like Time believe it or not. A lot of investment has been put into Ali over the years. Something 3rd party and unbiased like a weather history report of Zaire. Objective data on the date would be much more believable and worth its weight in gold as I'm sure you would agree? Is that not reasonable? I consider Time magazine reliable. If you don't that's your business.

I'll give you a slight edge on the word "all" but I shall reformat my comment to the "vast majority" of his punches are arm punches and they are. Foreman has farm boy strength --- something he was born with and has lighting bolt power in both hands. Probably could knock out most men with a back-hand, namsaying? I didn't see a formal source, thus no comment. Just some guy typing something on the internet. I hope this doesn't offend? I wouldn't exactly trust a source like Time believe it or not. A lot of investment has been put into Ali over the years. Something 3rd party and unbiased like a weather history report of Zaire. Objective data on the date would be much more believable and worth its weight in gold as I'm sure you would agree? Is that not reasonable? Kid...STFO! You wasn't even born then. You sound like like a conspiracy theorist. GYM-Rat!

I wasn't a gym rat, I was an amateur competitor with an undefeated record. Now I know you never were a pro cuz you don't get adrenalin rushes unless you hurt somebody. I know that because I stopped my first opponent in the gloves and when I had him hurt I got the adrenaline rush. Fake-pro talking fake-sh1t lol. YES YOU ARE A GYM-RAT! You just chumped yourself, I was making a comparison with you & your Sparring championship compared to Ali/Formen. Your explanation is weak. When your fighting you are on all cylinders, of course you are on high gear, GTFOH!. King of the Sparring matches (undefeated in sparring). Congrats! I see you won the Golden Gloves! So you're the King of Sparring & Golden Gloves winner...great!

Because if you watch the fight again, you will notice that when Ali landed punches they were more clearer shots that were snapping Foreman's head back. If my memory serves me right I think in the very beginning of the fight Ali landed some good clean shots that kinda got Goerge's respect. Dude, please don't compare your amateur sparring & experience to the Ali/Foreman fight in Zaire Africa. I get it you are the KING OF Sparring in the gym. In other words you are a GYM RAT. But if you was a former boxer, you should know not to compare sparring with a real boxing match. In a real fight, like i'm sure you know, it's more of an adrenalin rush. I wasn't a gym rat, I was an amateur competitor with an undefeated record. Now I know you never were a pro cuz you don't get adrenalin rushes unless you hurt somebody. I know that because I stopped my first opponent in the gloves and when I had him hurt I got the adrenaline rush. Fake-pro talking fake-sh1t lol.

Yes George throws arm punches but to say that's all he throws is not correct. George threw plenty of hard punches where he set his feet and rotated his upper body to get leverage on hus shots. They may be somewhat akward looking but they are not arm punches. By the way you didn't respond to my quote from the Time magazine article confirming the temperature was in the upper 80's and the humidity was 90% in Zaire the day of the fight. I'll give you a slight edge on the word "all" but I shall reformat my comment to the "vast majority" of his punches are arm punches and they are. Foreman has farm boy strength --- something he was born with and has lighting bolt power in both hands. Probably could knock out most men with a back-hand, namsaying? I didn't see a formal source, thus no comment. Just some guy typing something on the internet. I hope this doesn't offend? I wouldn't exactly trust a source like Time believe it or not. A lot of investment has been put into Ali over the years. Something 3rd party and unbiased like a weather history report of Zaire. Objective data on the date would be much more believable and worth its weight in gold as I'm sure you would agree? Is that not reasonable?

You don't know what arm punches are obviously. Yes George throws arm punches but to say that's all he throws is not correct. George threw plenty of hard punches where he set his feet and rotated his upper body to get leverage on hus shots. They may be somewhat akward looking but they are not arm punches. By the way you didn't respond to my quote from the Time magazine article confirming the temperature was in the upper 80's and the humidity was 90% in Zaire the day of the fight.

I know what he said you moron. Foreman ONLY throws arm punches EVER. So sure, he had him on the ropes and threw the punches he always throws which is arm punches. Get off the drugs fake pro. You're like one of these guys that said they were in the service and fought for our country but never left their block. Frothing at the mouth like a rabid animal. You got kids? I feel sorry for them. Obviously your wife makes the bread in the family cuz you can't hold a REAL job talking like that. Now fill up my tank on 87 you crumb catcher. Wash the windows too! Listen to yourself...The only fake person here is you. Comparing your sparring matches to a Championship match in Zaire Africa. So you want me to fill up your gas tank Sir? Lead or unleaded? Atleast I know how to wash windows, as oppose to you who doesn't even know how to wash your @$$.