How did Miguel Cotto become a PR superstar? Thanks to Arum

fair enough im not discrediting malignaggi, was defending him when he was getting trashed in some other thread and hes had a solid career im just saying it wasnt a good performance against someone who i dont see as a top fighter, thats all man. I think cotto is overrated and you dont, so lets leave it at that bro. OK brother, no hard feelings. Think Boxing!

why you talking about that bum paulie? cotto didnt look good against him but he looked near death and that was his final fight at 140. Daggum, Thank you, for you just helped me with my point. Regarding Paulie, he was a natural Jr welter, so it is then after he moves up to 147 lbs that, like you mentioned they mopped the floor with him. Imagine if he didn’t have no pop in his punches at 140 lbs, he ‘s definitely isn’t gonna have anything in his punches at 147 lbs. Yes Cotto was having problem with the wgt & was weight drained. Hence that was his last fight at Jr Welter (140 lbs). Coincidence…that his next fight was at 147 lbs against Quintana. Excuses, yes every fighter has them…

why you talking about that bum paulie? cotto didnt look good against him but he looked near death and that was his final fight at 140.

wasnt charles martin unbeaten before anthony joshua beat him? We now gonna say thats a good win and any subsequent losses are due to joshua softening him up? Fact of the matter is throughtout malignaggis career hes never looked an elite fighter. Its not as if he beat some killers before fighting cotto so i dont understand this narrative that he was some world class prospect that cotto derailed. Its not as if he was battered from pillar to post, or are you gonna say that was the case? I just think its another example of the level cotto was at, scraping past malignaggi, scraping past clottey, losing 119-109 on one card to trout and then losing handily to the elite fighters (Canelo, mayweather, pacquiao, margarito) Don't play yourself...you know I don't mean that. You could only wish to accomplish what Malignaggi has in the boxing world. Dude, when you participate in a world title, you are in the elite status as a fighter. That's world class level. Forget what you want to classify it as. He fought 6 World Champions, and fought in 11 world title fights. That qualifies anyone to be a World Class fighter And don't play yourself again, the Margarito loss is tainted & he was banned for a year. And the reason why they gave him leniency was because his trainer took the fall. And rightfully so, I don't believe Margo woke up in the morning & said hey load up my gloves tonight.

kOOL...Call it what you want, but the true of the matter is that when you are an undefeated fighter you are unbeaten until beaten. the Fact is Paulie fought; Hatton (2 years) 5 fights after Cotto, Amir Kahn (4 years) 9 fights after Cotto, Broner (7 years) 15 fights after Cotto, Porter (8 years) 17 bouts after!, Danny Garcia (9 years) 18 fights after! you mentioned; cotto struggled against a fighter who other fighters wiped the floor with And this is why i'm making you see why it is not that accurate that others wiped the floor with him 4-8 years later & 9-18 fights later! That's a lot of mileage, this is not fantasy boxing nor a video game, wear & tear is real. Yep. Notice how he conveniently leaves out the fact that Cotto softened Malignaggi up and broke his jaw before all those other boxing legends he claims "wiped the floor" with Malignaggi. Haters always find special formulas to justify their hate.

i call it as i see it, i watched that fight and it was a close fight, whether hes unbeaten or not doesnt mean he was a good win, cotto struggled against a fighter who other fighters wiped the floor with, look at what hatton did to him. Im not having it that he was suddenly shot to **** two years later. http://www.secondsout.com/usa-boxing-news/usa-boxing-news/cotto-keeps-title-but-malignaggi-wins-the-night they scored it 115-114 cotto, first article that comes up when i put that fight in. As i said i rememebr it was close and cotto definitely didnt look a class above him. kOOL...Call it what you want, but the true of the matter is that when you are an undefeated fighter you are unbeaten until beaten. the Fact is Paulie fought; Hatton (2 years) 5 fights after Cotto, Amir Kahn (4 years) 9 fights after Cotto, Broner (7 years) 15 fights after Cotto, Porter (8 years) 17 bouts after!, Danny Garcia (9 years) 18 fights after! you mentioned; cotto struggled against a fighter who other fighters wiped the floor with And this is why i'm making you see why it is not that accurate that others wiped the floor with him 4-8 years later & 9-18 fights later! That's a lot of mileage, this is not fantasy boxing nor a video game, wear & tear is real.

he did struggle against malignaggi if i remember, especially at the start, was a very close fight. many other top fighters made light work of malignaggi, cotto didnt. zab getting done over in 2nd round by tszyu, losing to baldomir, spinks does not make him a top class fighter in my opinion and just cause cotto got him out of there in the 11th doesnt make me think it was some class win. I think fighters like cotto and judah get the benefit of the doubt cause they looked really good at the start of there careers but when they got thrown to the wolves they lost. People remember the hype and see them as top fighters, top talents but once they got to that top pool of fighters they, more than often, fell badly short. If cotto gave these fighters he lost to hell i might say, oh well he lost to the best, but mayweather played with him, pacquiao annihilated him, canelo beat him comfortably, margarito made him quit, trout beat him 119-109 on one scorecard. Seems every big fight i tune into of his he gets whooped. Was always an excuse when he lost too, weight issues, bad camp, trainers fault etc. Fact is hes never really been that amazing a fighter, just a solid fighter and his status in the sport doesnt befit his actual performances. Actually Cotto dropped him in the 2nd rnd, Malignaggi did make it a fight, but Cotto did put a hurt on him physically & mentally. To diminish Cotto's win & say that he had a hard time is just not right and i'll explain. First of all when Paulie fought Cotto he was an undefeated fighter. He was younger & felt unbeatable. His next lost a 12 rnd TKO, will be 2 years & 5 fights later against Hatton (2008), his next lost against Diaz (2009) will be 3 years & 9 fights later from his fight with Cotto. He would avenged this lost. His next lost was against Amir Khan (2010) by 11 rnd TKO, which was 4 years & 9 fights after the Cotto bout, his next lost would be against Broner(2013) by split dec, which was 7 years & 15 fights after the cotto bout, his next lost will be against Porter(2014) via 4 rnd TKO, it was 8 years & 17 bouts later, next lost with Danny Garcia(2015) via 9 rnd TKO, was 9 years & 18 fights later. So you see why your comparisons does not hold any weight. It's just that by the time Paulie got more loses their was more wear & tear on the body...It's elemantary my dear watson.

You just can't hate on Cotto and call yourself a fan of boxing. There is a reason Floyd waited for him to get softened up before facing him.

Cotto was gonna be a great fighter regardless. Top Skank just robbed him along the way. :lol1: Cotto probably made more money in 2-3 fights with Roc Nation then he did in his entire career with Top Skank. :lol1:

You don't need a personality like Tito to be a superstar. Cotto got his status by being a great fighter with a killer left hook and a crowd pleasing style. He was a no nonsense type of personality, stoic and quiet. A lot of fans appreciate what he has done in his career. I really don't get the hate Cotto has been getting lately. He was a really top flight fighter during his prime. The Margarito fight really damaged him. I think the recent hate stems from people viewing him as a diva and such.

The Bobfather is the biggest crook boxing has seen (only Don King is even comparable) but people do underestimate how much he did for Cotto & Pacquiao. He basically built those guys from the ground up and made them into the big names they became. Cotto was right to leave him for how he handled the Bumgarito situation though. Overall I think we all agree he's a massive scumbag and has done more bad than good. Prevented loads of great fights over the years, involved in numerous scandals, screwed over tons of guys I could go on & on. https://cdn.meme.am/instances/21823114.jpg

no it is not. it's about arum building tito's starpower in america. there are only 3.5 people living on that tiny little island. How did Miguel Cotto become a PR superstar?

He became a boxing star because he's Puerto Rican and they support any boxer from there that is good. No other reason

Thats nice and all but the topic of the thread a star in PR. no it is not. it's about arum building tito's starpower in america. there are only 3.5 people living on that tiny little island.

Bich as mexicans Why the fck Chavez jr became a ppv fighter??? HMMM NEVER, did ya pay to see his fights?? YES so sht the fck up, Cotto is a great fighter that why he sells and a is a superstar end of it.

Dude at least never retired and thame came back. And he never fought UFC fighter in boxing match.

never liked cotto, overated fighter. Even with the margrito glove claims, to take a knee like that in such a huge country v country fight was pathetic, should have just gone out on his back

There's money in PR supestars. First there is the huge embedded fanbase in the US and second there is the Mexico - PR rivalry. It will always be easier to make fights with a PR fighter then against, let's say, a dangerous and skille Cuban fighter. The machine will get behind the PR star cuz by instinct they want to survive. That's why guys like Jim Lampley will have full license to talk sh1t about Rigondeaux while he's operating his magic and why so so fighters like Trinidad and Cotto have been deified. I agree with the majority of what you just posted. However, as the saying goes "Styles makes fights " and Rigondeaux style bores the masses skilled or not. Now I'm not saying I condone Lampley's rhetoric (I've grown to dislike him over the years ) but he in many ways is stating the blatantly obvious when it comes to Rigondeaux.

He made more money than Canelo in their fight. How is he not a star? Reread my post!

He isn't a star though. I know a lot of Puerto Ricans and they don't recognize Cotto. Those that do recognize him just do it out of desperation in lack of stars. He made more money than Canelo in their fight. How is he not a star?