Question about boxing gloves vs MMM gloves

I honestly think it only has to do with the fact that with boxing gloves, fighters can take a longer more sustained beating and this causes more deaths since it goes on longer than an MMA fight. I believe the reason for boxing gloves is to protect the fighters hands over the rounds and this is also a detriment to those on the receiving end because it can allow them to take more punishment which can cause more chance of long term injury or nearly immediately after the fight. Great points!

Dana White used to say that the reason boxers died frequently and had more concussions than MMA fighters, is because the boxing gloves are so heavy and combined with your punching power, it was more deadly than MMA gloves. But lately allot of people have been saying that the only reason Connor is hitting so hard in MMA, is because the gloves are smaller and doesnt have as much padding. As far as what Dana said about concussions and boxing gloves, I see his point. But Im conflicted because I also feel that if you hit someone with bareknuckle or little to know padding, that it would hurt more because its raw knuckles crashing onto the target. Can someone break this down!? I honestly think it only has to do with the fact that with boxing gloves, fighters can take a longer more sustained beating and this causes more deaths since it goes on longer than an MMA fight. I believe the reason for boxing gloves is to protect the fighters hands over the rounds and this is also a detriment to those on the receiving end because it can allow them to take more punishment which can cause more chance of long term injury or nearly immediately after the fight.

gloves are basically used to minimize cuts and hand injuries. i would assume mma gloves are lighter because they dont cover your entire hand. the fingers are free to grapple/hump dudes on the mat. you gotta get a firm grip of that spandexed buttocks, ya know?

The reason for deaths in boxing is simple ... Us pros tend to land shots with such accuracy , the shot is set up to chatter your brain .. Combine that with weight cuts and and a high volume of accurate shots .... you get brain swelling

LOL no doubt. Whats the counter theory on why there are more legit KO's in MMA over boxing (& I mean standing KO's not the drop a guy & then go hammerfist him thing you do see quite often & that I see people bringing up cuz anyone who watches both sports can attest more MMA guys get put to sleep more often with ~20 or less punches landed than you'll see in boxing with ~20 or less punches landed) & the more cuts & bruising you'll see on any random MMA card over a boxing card? And I don't necessarily think the overall concussive damage is THAT different so much as boxers take more of those punches that do damage. I'm of the belief that regardless of the lbs per sq inch power the real problem is brains don't like being hit & boxers are taking more overall hits to the brain than MMA guys. Thats why there are more punchdrunk/severely injured boxers than MMA guys. Its a volume thing more than a power thing. Super late... just saw this opening a different window lmao. I mean, in terms of MMA having more KOs it just comes down to a mixture of things. There are more ways to KO for one. Another thing is that number 1 and 2 in boxing (for all intents and purposes) are fairly close in skill. In mma 1 and 2 while close in rank could be on opposite ends of the spectrum in skill. One guy could be a world class kick boxer and the other a world class bjj guy who's unable to take it to the ground and has only a basic level of understanding in any standing striking discipline. There are huge gaps in skills in MMA pretty often because there are more dimensions. Less skill = more KOs. That's why you see a ton of "good" boxers (thai, western, kick, etc) be so scary if they just develop a good take down defense and produce highlight reel KOs. Imagine a guy transitions after boxing or doing karate or something for 10-20 years and some wrestler/bjj guy starts mma a few years ago and starts training his boxing or whatever on the side...on the feet it wouldnt even get sanctioned with the difference in skill in the other sport lol. It's like throwing a pro boxer trained since a teen or child in with a guy boxing amateur...part time...who just started recently lol.

Folks die in boxing due to poor event management and poor training methods. MMA gloves are like bricks with a doily over it.

its because in MMA they stop the fight if you get knocked out cold in Boxing they let the guy continue if he can thats why there is more brain damage in boxing... ALSO: MMA its not always direct shots to the head. theres knees/elbows/kicks to the body.. submission grappling, chokes, armlocks, all that stock. if you are an MMA fighter, your head is hit way less than in boxing its just easier to get knocked out in MMA because of the smaller gloves, but the brain damage comes from repeated shots

It's how the energy is being transferred into the skull. A smaller surface area causes more local damage rather than piercing concussive damage that forces the brain to rattle around in the skull. That's why you see more cuts and superficial damage and fractures of the facial bones in mma. With a larger surface area it's evenly distributed to a larger area of the skull forcing the brain to move more. So the more accurate you are with mma gloves the easier to get the ko when you hit pivotal points like the chin or temple but the odds of hitting those buttons in order to get the brain moving as often and violently as boxing gloves is lower. Larger surface area easier to get the head to move in a way that damages the brain, smaller surface area causes more damage to the structure of the skull and cause superficial damage unless you hit a pivotal weakpoint.Exactly! Easier to KO a guy with the smaller gloves because of speed and accuracy with striking pinpoints, but easier to jar the brain with the bigger gloves and bigger gloves protect more area for defense against a KO punch, but not against the jarring causing brain movement of the bigger gloves.

they did an episode of sport science on this there is no differece this is a dead issue MMA fans like to useThe one where they use a heavybag is useless because it only uses pure force on a heavybag, a non-human and the fact is, actual impact is based on things like speed and accuracy which make punches from the smaller gloves harder to see coming and block against. On top of that, bigger gloves allow you to block punches better than smaller ones which make you a bigger target and easier to hit. Add it all up and the smaller gloves are more dangerous and would produce more KO's, but less brain trauma that the bigger gloves produce.

Dana White used to say that the reason boxers died frequently and had more concussions than MMA fighters, is because the boxing gloves are so heavy and combined with your punching power, it was more deadly than MMA gloves. But lately allot of people have been saying that the only reason Connor is hitting so hard in MMA, is because the gloves are smaller and doesnt have as much padding. As far as what Dana said about concussions and boxing gloves, I see his point. But Im conflicted because I also feel that if you hit someone with bareknuckle or little to know padding, that it would hurt more because its raw knuckles crashing onto the target. Can someone break this down!? Smaller gloves = faster punches + smaller surface area = greater acceleration and greater force on the target. It's easier to get a knockout with small gloves than larger gloves, and smaller gloves can cause more damage. Dana White is full of ****,"peeleft: the reason why boxers have more issues and deaths is because they face far greater accumulation of punches than MMA fighters. It's not the 1 punch that causes damage, it's the accumulation of hundreds of punches. The fact that MMA gloves are smaller and make knockouts easier is what causes less long term effects because the fights are stopped before more punches are thrown and there is less accumulation of punishment.

It's how the energy is being transferred into the skull. A smaller surface area causes more local damage rather than piercing concussive damage that forces the brain to rattle around in the skull. That's why you see more cuts and superficial damage and fractures of the facial bones in mma. With a larger surface area it's evenly distributed to a larger area of the skull forcing the brain to move more. So the more accurate you are with mma gloves the easier to get the ko when you hit pivotal points like the chin or temple but the odds of hitting those buttons in order to get the brain moving as often and violently as boxing gloves is lower. Larger surface area easier to get the head to move in a way that damages the brain, smaller surface area causes more damage to the structure of the skull and cause superficial damage unless you hit a pivotal weakpoint.

I don't buy the full logic with this. I'd argue they are looking at the wrong thing. If I'm hitting someone with a small glove & a large glove the smaller glove is going to be delivering however much force to a smaller target area then the bigger glove will be. Thus the impacted area would seem more likely to receive damage with the smaller glove vs the bigger glove. And I believe this already proves true with the amount of visual damage you'll see on MMA guys vs boxers for anyone who watches both sports. Its uncommon to see a MMA card where there aren't multiple guys being cut up & looking like racoons meanwhile you can watch a whole fight card & not see anything worse then a bloody nose. Visual damage isn't indicative of concussive damage. It's actually the argument made for bare knuckle that fewer punches land and have a bigger superficial/painful effect compared to the concussive nature of boxing and mma due to the amount of force delivered thanks to the wraps/gloves. I do agree though that the same amount of force in a smaller area should be stronger. It's just so hard to gauge which is harder though. Boxing gloves are bigger but all the padding isnt on the punching surface. Remember, the glove is used to protect the hands, not from causing less damage. All the padding is distributed to the knuckle, wrist, thumb, back of the hand, etc. A devastating puncher is hitting about as hard with either mma or boxing gloves...you can feel the knuckles through both. I've only been hit just a few times with mma gloves mind you (and not from a big puncher like Dan Henderson or anything lol) but it didn't seem too different from boxing gloves. You just feel more vulnerable? Still..a smaller area delivering the same force should be harder right? It seems like common sense. Or does the weight of the glove help make it more powerful as you're delivering more weight into a relatively small target (chin for example). :/... I feel like this is a non sober conversation to have

Well, it's easier to land on someone with smaller gloves. It's one thing to land a counter on a guy with mid-low level amateur boxing type skill with small gloves...and another animal entirely on landing flush on a world class boxer consistantly with big gloves as it also helps defensively. The same angles don't work unless you're incredibly crafty or set it up since it's easier to block a large area with boxing gloves. Bad boxers dont see as much coming so it's easier to stop em..add smaller gloves and a guy with a good sense of distance and timing that's rare to find in mma (Conor. He's a good counter ouncher in his sport. Very good) will ko a lot of dudes. Monstrous puncher or not. People are too concentrated on the neary non existent power diff but don't seem to think about the sheer versatility big gloves provide defensively. It's not as easy to be an accurate puncher in boxing. Conor going to have to rely on sheer physicality and relish clinches and just try to ragdoll mayweather into the ropes and land questionably clean punches/ebows...ala mayweather/ward. Very solid points sir!

I pointed out before that McGregor much looks more fluid with MMA gloves than with boxing gloves. It should make a difference but I suppose the training and all this improving he's doing will help. Well, it's easier to land on someone with smaller gloves. It's one thing to land a counter on a guy with mid-low level amateur boxing type skill with small gloves...and another animal entirely on landing flush on a world class boxer consistantly with big gloves as it also helps defensively. The same angles don't work unless you're incredibly crafty or set it up since it's easier to block a large area with boxing gloves. Bad boxers dont see as much coming so it's easier to stop em..add smaller gloves and a guy with a good sense of distance and timing that's rare to find in mma (Conor. He's a good counter ouncher in his sport. Very good) will ko a lot of dudes. Monstrous puncher or not. People are too concentrated on the neary non existent power diff but don't seem to think about the sheer versatility big gloves provide defensively. It's not as easy to be an accurate puncher in boxing. Conor going to have to rely on sheer physicality and relish clinches and just try to ragdoll mayweather into the ropes and land questionably clean punches/ebows...ala mayweather/ward.

Boxing is 12 three minute rounds of being punched in the head repeatedly. I think MMA is safer because the rounds are shorter and the fighters are vastly inferior punchers. And like someone else mentioned the ref will instantly step in and call off a fight if someone gets knocked out or is being pummeled on the ground, compared to boxing where they tend to give fighters every possible chance to continue.

Dana White used to say that the reason boxers died frequently and had more concussions than MMA fighters, is because the boxing gloves are so heavy and combined with your punching power, it was more deadly than MMA gloves. But lately allot of people have been saying that the only reason Connor is hitting so hard in MMA, is because the gloves are smaller and doesnt have as much padding. As far as what Dana said about concussions and boxing gloves, I see his point. But Im conflicted because I also feel that if you hit someone with bareknuckle or little to know padding, that it would hurt more because its raw knuckles crashing onto the target. Can someone break this down!? Boxers get concussions and take more damage far more due to things like the standing 8-count (and referees generally given boxers every chance possible to stay in the fight) than anything to do with the 4-ounce gloves. With the differences in hand wraps corresponding to the gloves (MMA requiring far more hand/finger dexterity, while boxing is solely focused on maintaining the structure of the hand), I'm fairly certain that a 147lb boxer in boxing wraps and 8-ounce gloves would hit just as hard in 4-ounce MMA gloves and MMA wraps. No idea if you have wraps, but here's a simple test: Punch a wall; not so hard that you're looking to punch through concrete, but hard enough to show an effort. Then, punch the same wall with winter gloves on; if done right, the punch with the winter gloves on will feel significantly better than the bareknuckle punch, so much so that you'd likely feel confident enough to throw the gloved shot harder than the bare shot (less concern for busting a hand). Extend the metaphor up

I pointed out before that McGregor much looks more fluid with MMA gloves than with boxing gloves. It should make a difference but I suppose the training and all this improving he's doing will help.

I think where most folks are missing the boat on the MMA vs Boxing glove issue has to do with what the fighter is used to. If you are used to delivering a certain amount of force with a 4 oz glove, you are probably going to punch less forcefully with a larger one. You will throw slower and your ability to keep your hands up may decline somewhat over rounds. Floyd is used to delivering powerful shots over a long period of time with THESE gloves; Conor is not. And that may play a huge key.

they did an episode of sport science on this there is no differece this is a dead issue MMA fans like to use

More speed with the little gloves = more power I think the power aspect is overblown. The bigger gloves soften the impact a bit but you still feel the hard ass hand wrap underneath, Also pretty much all 4oz of mma gloves are concentrated on the knuckles. Boxing gloves shift the padding around between the hand, the wrist and the knuckles. They aren't that dissimilar. You can just pinpoint the chin better and generate more speed with the smaller gloves.