Video Total Landed Punch counts and Why it's clear Pac Beat Horn

Add Robert Garcia and Abner Mares to the list. Both had Pacquiao. I guess Teddy swayed them too. Already did. Thanks. 👍

Add Robert Garcia and Abner Mares to the list. Both had Pacquiao. I guess Teddy swayed them too.

The corruption in boxing explained further why It's wrong that Judges are paid the promoters. So much wrong in boxing and a lot of stream lining must be done to eradicate this kind of practice In boxing. Boxing.com http://www.boxing.com/exceeding_expectations_doesnt_equal_winning.html It makes it even more disappointing that such disgraceful decisions still happen so frequently in boxing, since ESPN saw fantastic television ratings for the Pacquiao-Horn bout. Instead of a great night for the sport, increasing the television viewership with a big name star like Manny Pacquaio in a fun, action-filled fight, those new or returning viewers were shown why they can’t take boxing seriously. How emotionally invested will most people become in a sport that frequently robs and disrespects its own athletes? The only way this sort of disgraceful judging will change is if the sport changes the way judges are compensated. Currently, they are paid directly by the promoters of a fight, rather than by the athletic commissions. It’s an obvious conflict of interest, and is the primary reason it’s easy to wonder about corruption when a dubious or downright bad decision is turned in. In addition, a critical eye needs to be turned to professional boxing judges’ ability to mentally perform at such a high level. It takes a lot of focus and intensity to properly score rounds in a fight, and we have seen many cases in recent years where the judges involved in poor scoring became confused either about which fighter was which (as in the recent Burnett-Haskins fight in the UK) or just confused in general (as in the Tony Thompson-Luis Ortiz bout in March 2016). It seems that many sanctioning bodies and athletic commissions aren’t taking the jobs that judges perform as seriously as they should.

Add Joel Diaz to the list Says Manny won the fight but took Horn for granted. Then says that Manny would stop Horn in a rematch.

them dudes are idiots by doing that they only hurt their case. These type of videos were good ideas in theory if the person who created them can self regulate and keep his agenda to himself and just create the video as non bias as possible but they cant do that so they slip in a few shots ify shots and open the door so their video can be written off just like this one here. I will never understand these type of people, so dumb they shoot themselves in the foot and waste their time doing so too. No one said it's a perfect tally. I even said it in the early page. Everyone is entitled to watch the video and have their opinions about it. No one is perfect. There can be mistakes in the video, but remember, the general consensus among boxers and boxing press including Teddy that Pac out landed Horn. Whether there are a few punches that should have been omitted or not. This video can at least give an over view of who was truly connecting more throughout the rounds. No one is perfect. Judges has been proven to be biased, refs can be bought, drug agencies can be bought as well, but your eyes can see if this at least show who was connecting. Scoring is subjective. You have eyes to see who truly won. No one person can have the same number of punch connects. But a grp of people can tell which person landed more in a round. It may differ in landed punches, but the one who landed more will float up. If you still see Horn winning this after seeing this video then you are entitled to your opinion, but don't discredit a video for it's lack of integrity just because it shows Pac landed more. Use yours eyes. And even after seeing this video you still consider Horn winning. All it takes is to time stamp it if it didn't land and will score it again. Let's see who deserves the W. But to discredit the whole video without seeing the whole essence of it, is like Discrediting Cavez Jr. even before he got massacred by Canelo in the ring and that he should have never fought Canelo in the first place lmao. Even if you make a a post fight punch connects of that Cavez Jr. Canelo fight, Even if you try hard enough to fake and padd his score punch connects, the beauty of a video, video doesn't lie, it will always be there to show if it landed. Cavez will never be able to land more than Canelo in that fight coz videos are hard copies of truth, it's just a fact. Just as the professional boxers have seen and spoken that Pac landed the most punches that night. Putting a video out there just adds to the truth that Pac did land more.

There were 55 people in the rbr thread that thought Horn won. Look dude, some of the guys you quoted had it close or could see it either way. I felt same. I thought pac won as well. http://www.sharegif.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/giggle-giflaugh-gif.gif You have 3.5 ++ votes to go Dunn. Get the Majority and you'll prove your point :pat:

Lmao 55 are just the scores of the boxing press to be exact. Then get to it!! Find there votes and post it here. I'll wait. Let's count all of them to satisfy my Fl0mo buddy Bigg Dunn. :lol1: There were 55 people in the rbr thread that thought Horn won. Look dude, some of the guys you quoted had it close or could see it either way. I felt same.

55 people out of 3 .8 million US viewers. Lmao 55 are just the scores of the boxing press to be exact. http://www.punditarena.com/boxing/jm...ell-need-know/ Then get to it!! Find there votes and post it here. I'll wait. Let's count all of them to satisfy my Fl0mo buddy Bigg Dunn. :lol1:

55 people out of 3 .8 million US viewers.

The People has spoken.

Manny didn't get robbed, he lost a close decision. happens in boxing. Nope. I beg to differ. When majority of the press, the people, the boxing community had it for Pac. Whether it was a close win or a lopsided win. A win is a win. A robbery is a robbery. If it's glaring obvious that the other man should have won as evidence to the outrage that has happened. Then that is what you call Robbery. The Press scores: 55 for Pacquiao, 7 for Horn, 5 draw Majority for Pacquiao the true winner! http://www.punditarena.com/boxing/jmurphy/press-scores-manny-pacquiao-vs-jeff-horn-tell-need-know/ Full scores: Bob Velin (USA Today) – 115-112 Pacquiao Nick Tylwalk (FanSided) – 116-112 Pacquiao Steve Bunce (BoxNation) – 115-113 Horn Mike Sloan (Sherdog) – 116-111 Pacquiao Gary Randall (Sherdog) – 116-112 Horn Mike Fridley (Sherdog) – 115-112 Horn Gary Parrish (CBS Sports) – Pacquiao won Brian Campbell (CBS Sports) – 114-114 Jason McIntyre (Fox Sports 1) – Pacquiao won Dieter Kurtenbach (Fox Sports) – Pacquiao won Skip Bayless (Fox Sports) – Horn won Josh Katzowitz (Forbes) – 115-112 Pacquiao Brian Mazique (Forbes) – 114-114 Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow) – 116-112 Pacquiao Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow) – Pacquiao won Bad Left Hook – 116-111 and 115-113 Pacquiao Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine) – Pacquiao won Michael Rosenthal (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 Pacquiao Ryan Songalia (Ring Magazine and Rappler) – 117-110 Pacquiao Doug Fischer (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 or 115-113 Pacquiao Tom Gray‏ (Ring Magazine) – “Had Horn wide mate.” Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network) – “I’ve already rewatched. 115-113 Pac was the lowest I could go…” Steve Kim (Undisputed Champion Network) – Pacquiao won Lance Pugmire (LA Times) – 116-112 Pacquiao Boxing News – 115-113 Pacquiao (Verdict: Close fight, no robbery) Michael Wilbon (ESPN) – Pacquiao won Dan Rafael (ESPN) – 117-111 Pacquiao Marcellus Wiley (ESPN) – Pacquiao won Ramona Shelburne (ESPN) – Pacquiao won Nigel Collins (ESPN) – 114-113 Pacquiao (“Disagree w/ the “robbery” talk.”) Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) – Pacquiao robbed!!!! Teddy Atlas (ESPN) – 116-111 Pacquiao Arash markazi (ESPN) – Pacquiao won T.J. Quinn (ESPN) – Pacquiao won (“This is a hometown hit job. Manny looked old, but mostly in control.”) Salvador Rodriguez‏ (ESPN) – 116-112 Pacquiao Greg Bishop (Sports Illustrated) – 117-111 Pacquiao Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports) – “I could see a draw or close for Pac” Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports) – Pacquiao won Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports) – 115-113 for Pacquiao Gareth A. Davies (The Telegraph) – 115-113 Pacquiao Jay Cowan (Spike Sports) – 115-112 Pacquiao Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV) – “I had him (Pacquiao) up by one point.” Jonathan Snowden (Bleacher Report) – “I had Manny Pacquiao in a close fight.” BoxingScene – 116-112 Pacquiao Ryan Phillips (The Big Lead) – 116-111 Pacquiao Lennox Lewis – Pacquiao won Lou DiBella (promoter) – 116-112 Pacquiao DJ Gallo (The Guardian) – 117-111 pacquiao Ben Thompson (Fight Hype) – 115-112 Pacquiao Jeff Powell (The Daily Mail) – Pacquiao robbed Bob Sheridan (commentator) – 114-114 Paulie Malignaggi – “I had horn by a point…” Eric Raskin (Former writer for ESPN and Grantland) – 114-114 Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) – 114-114 (“Cd. have gone either way.”) Martin Chesnutt (Boxing Monthly) – 115-112 Pacquiao (“…but was comfortable with 115-113 either way.”) Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly) – 116-113 Horn Adam Abramowitz‏ (Saturday Night Boxing and Transnational Boxing Rankings board member) – 116-111 Pacquiao Rafael G (The Fight City) – “Pacquiao won by 2 or 3 points.” Lee Wylie (The Fight City) – Pacquiao won (“…certainly not a robbery. Close fight.”) Patrick Connor‏ (BWAA/IBRO member) – Pacquiao won Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing) – 116-112 Pacquiao Behind the Gloves – 117-110 Pacquiao Erik Morales – Pacquiao robbed Juan Manuel Marquez – 116-112 Pacquiao Timothy Bradley – Pacquiao won (very close fight) Guillermo Rigondeaux – Pacquiao won Kobe Bryant –PAC Patrick Connor‏ (BWAA/IBRO member) – Pacquiao won Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing) – 116-112 Pacquiao Erik Morales – Pacquiao robbed Errol Spence - Pac Andre Berto - Pac Gabe Rosado -Pac Claressa Shields - Pac Devon Alexander. Pac Billy Joe Saunders Pac Sergio Mora Pac Ray Beltran Pac Cornelius Bundrage Pac 55 for Pacquiao, 7 for Horn, 5 draw _____

Everyone knows this dude is a troll yet you all have a 16 page thread. I am not going to look at it but I am sure it is him showing the same video, tweets, and opinions that favor his outlook on the fight page after page. Stop feeding the trolls. smh..

IF majority of the boxing world saw a robbery it's a robbery. Like I said, there won't be controversy if there was no smoke. This fight was still being talked about for days because of the foul play that you can't seem to understand. Heck you just said Pac won. Hence in your side alone he got robbed lol :pat: key word 'majority' thinks Pac got robbed. Post video analysis proves it. Manny didn't get robbed, he lost a close decision. happens in boxing.

video is false. Punch number 6 is not a scorable punch. Horn saw the punch coming and pulled back and mann fell short. Yeah the video credited some shots that were short

Wasn't a robbery. In the rbr thread a number of people, pac fans included, thought Horn won. Tim Bradley was right that it was close, Teddy Atlas IMO was ridiculous suggesting pac was that far ahead. His giving pac a 10-8 for round 9 isn't allowable because there was no KD. If you think Manny beat Floyd while landing less, than you can't act surprised if posters have Horn beating Manny. of course you don't really believe that, you were just being a f@g. IF majority of the boxing world saw a robbery it's a robbery. Like I said, there won't be controversy if there was no smoke. This fight was still being talked about for days because of the foul play that you can't seem to understand. Heck you just said Pac won. Hence in your side alone he got robbed lol :pat: key word 'majority' thinks Pac got robbed. Post video analysis proves it. I thought pac won as well. A number of Manny fans thought he lost. .

The video is counting punches that are falling short and can't be seen landing for Pacquiao. Pac turds aren't fooling anyone, you tried the same **** with the Mayweather fight. :lol1: Also kissed Skip Bayless ass...but now Skip is a idiot lol

LOLOLOLOLOLOL You see! You even saw Pac winning it. So what's your problem?? What's wrong?? This is a thread emphasizing why he won. It just creates a rock solid case that Pac deserved it more than Horn, hence the robbery. So why are you against this thread?? I even point out in one of my posts here everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I even said to a fl0mo hoe No problem if they think Pac lost. What's ruffling your feathers? Again I post what I said.. I'm referring to Fl0mos.. If you get hurt about what I wrote. Then I guess you are one of them. I hope you are not one of them though since you defintely have a rational mind to discern Pac got robbed LMAO Unlike these 2 below #Honorable mention # TravestyNY # Robbie Barrettt aka ISAAC My previous post As follows: Some of you Fl0mos in here can't even see that no one is telling you to change your opinion, and that your opinion is in the minority since most beleive Pac won irregardless of any supporting videos proving Pac won. Some of you Fl0mos believe those who saw Pac won are Pac - tards. That's the conspiracy theory you guys are riding in. That the minority is right and the Majority are all Pac Tards for seeing what 90% of the press, celebrity and boxers alike saw a Pac win. Conclusion: Floyd pompom girls thinking: Those who voted a Pac win are Pac - Tardss!! #not realizing the majority of the boxing community gave it for Pac lolololololol # floyd fan boys are the dumbest fans in boxing lololol Wasn't a robbery. In the rbr thread a number of people, pac fans included, thought Horn won. Tim Bradley was right that it was close, Teddy Atlas IMO was ridiculous suggesting pac was that far ahead. His giving pac a 10-8 for round 9 isn't allowable because there was no KD. If you think Manny beat Floyd while landing less, than you can't act surprised if posters have Horn beating Manny. of course you don't really believe that, you were just being a f@g.

I thought pac won as well. A number of Manny fans thought he lost. Adults can set aside their biases when watching and scoring a fight. Sadly, a 40 yr old child like yourself can't. I doubt you even watched the fight. LOLOLOLOLOLOL You see! You even saw Pac winning it. So what's your problem?? What's wrong?? This is a thread emphasizing why he won. It just creates a rock solid case that Pac deserved it more than Horn, hence the robbery. So why are you against this thread?? I even point out in one of my posts here everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I even said to a fl0mo hoe No problem if they think Pac lost. What's ruffling your feathers? Again I post what I said.. I'm referring to Fl0mos.. If you get hurt about what I wrote. Then I guess you are one of them. I hope you are not one of them though since you defintely have a rational mind to discern Pac got robbed LMAO Unlike these 2 below #Honorable mention # TravestyNY # Robbie Barrettt aka ISAAC My previous post As follows: Some of you Fl0mos in here can't even see that no one is telling you to change your opinion, and that your opinion is in the minority since most beleive Pac won irregardless of any supporting videos proving Pac won. Some of you Fl0mos believe those who saw Pac won are Pac - tards. That's the conspiracy theory you guys are riding in. That the minority is right and the Majority are all Pac Tards for seeing what 90% of the press, celebrity and boxers alike saw a Pac win. Conclusion: Floyd pompom girls thinking: Those who voted a Pac win are Pac - Tardss!! #not realizing the majority of the boxing community gave it for Pac lolololololol # floyd fan boys are the dumbest fans in boxing lololol

Pac won Case closed :boxing: Yes he did.

Yeah i thought Pac won. I don't need the slowmo vids. That's good to know bro. You are in the majority. These are just to showcase how those punches landed for both combatants some boxing fans wants to see how it all went down in rewind. A true win will be justified by post fight rewind, and again Pac did PROVE IT in spades. :boxing: #ROBBED