So i just watched Pacman vs Horn

Pac was allways wild ,idk if he can develope style like this ,i remember him missing this lefts in JMM fights too Well he can be wild during his prime since he got all the arsenal for that. Team pac is just blinded and thought maybe they could really turn back the clock, while living in nostalgia. Instead of thinking a strategy to win in a diff way. Against JMM he still has his pulse. Even with the last one. This is the sloppiest and most vulnerable version of him, but well its also the oldest version

Spot on. But no need to compare with the cotto fight since pac is obviously way past it on this one. Problem with them is they didnt evolve their style, they still like that blitzing all angle overwhelming offense when clearly pac no longer has the attributes to do them. No longer has the energy. Not even the chin that used to make him get away with his technical flaws. They didn't instead developed a discipline jab. Fighting on the backfoot, throwing combos only in spurts. His balance was terrible on this fight. Pac was allways wild ,idk if he can develope style like this ,i remember him missing this lefts in JMM fights too

So horny didn't win the last round?? What were you watching it was basically free do you count gloves? Yes I had Horn winning the 12th. What does "do you count gloves" mean? Do you count punches that land on Pacquaio or only the punches he lands?

just some observations 1.Pacman missed loads of left hands 2.His Guard was never tight ,he got hit around it many times ,Cotto had great succes with pac on the ropes too. 3.Pacman is easy to hit to the body. 4.Pacman best defense is offense and he wasnt aggresor throught the fight. 5.Jeff cought him of guard with right lead. Horn was just like upgraded Margarito ,more akward and alittle faster ,also very dirty and crafty inside. i could see Pacman winning but it was not robbery,They was fighting Horn fight doe ,he controled the fight and tempo. Who knows maybe Horn will shock as again in the future. Spot on. But no need to compare with the cotto fight since pac is obviously way past it on this one. Problem with them is they didnt evolve their style, they still like that blitzing all angle overwhelming offense when clearly pac no longer has the attributes to do them. No longer has the energy. Not even the chin that used to make him get away with his technical flaws. They didn't instead developed a discipline jab. Fighting on the backfoot, throwing combos only in spurts. His balance was terrible on this fight.

PAC landed a lot of shots which the judges mused It's clear to see he won the fight Whilst comp box is off giving PAC 100 more landed shots imo he would have landed st least 60 times more He was robbed 116-112 PAC

Irondan is casual ? damn bro:lol1::lol1::lol1: He's obviously a chump :lol1:

Neither of what you have just described happened. So horny didn't win the last round?? What were you watching it was basically free do you count gloves?

Maidana won the first 5 rounds Floyd won the rest, horny won 3 rounds the whole fight.. he did win the last doe Neither of what you have just described happened.

I edged it out for Pacquaio but admit I wasn't paying full attention to the fight, Either way, Pacquaio without his speed is a sitting duck. Horn was advancing/imposing on him fairly easily. Back in the day he would have eaten 4 punches for even trying. Pac still had his speed.. it's just Horn was a lot bigger than him, physically stronger.. and he'd press forward despite getting hit

fight wasnt close Horn would get KO-ed by me and at least 2 other guys at my local gym so you and your friends are HW's?

How's that? Pacquaio-Horn was close. Can't argue with either man winning or a draw. Same for Mayweather-Maidana 1. Maidana won the first 5 rounds Floyd won the rest, horny won 3 rounds the whole fight.. he did win the last doe

fight wasnt close Horn would get KO-ed by me and at least 2 other guys at my local gym

The 9th was the only round Pac fought like he did in his prime. I thought he looked very rusty throughout and threw a lot of wide swings that missed by miles. Horn was strong and aggressive but there were loads of opportunities for Manny to nail him in every round. But Manny just wasn't sharp enough. And he wasn't really interested in a dog fight. I think even in that round he was just loading up massive single punches. Not his usual machine gun esque 10 punch combinations we saw in his better days. But I agree that was the only round he showed killer instinct and I think it's because he knows he was behind or thought he was behind atleast. Pacquaio despite being past it has been able to compete and win at the best level but yesterday he really showed big decline. He just wasn't pulling the trigger.

People acting like Horn didn't land any punches. What?? Is this the twilight zone?! Horn troubled Pacquaio. Landed some really good solid punches especially the right. Defended well aswell. Was a back and forth fight. I think in the 9th Pacquaio knew he was behind and tried to finish him but when he didn't he was out of gass. Great fight. The 9th was the only round Pac fought like he did in his prime. I thought he looked very rusty throughout and threw a lot of wide swings that missed by miles. Horn was strong and aggressive but there were loads of opportunities for Manny to nail him in every round. But Manny just wasn't sharp enough. And he wasn't really interested in a dog fight.

I edged it out for Pacquaio but admit I wasn't paying full attention to the fight, Either way, Pacquaio without his speed is a sitting duck. Horn was advancing/imposing on him fairly easily. Back in the day he would have eaten 4 punches for even trying. Maybe Pac just couldnt do it to Horn ,Pacman was throwing but he had no accuracy to counter Horn with big shots ,Pacman on the backfoot is bad idea.

Thats how I know you're a causal :lol1: How's that? Pacquaio-Horn was close. Can't argue with either man winning or a draw. Same for Mayweather-Maidana 1.

What you guys think horn to fight the winner of cotto/kamegai Or you guys think horn pacquiao will be a trilogy?

Thats how I know you're a causal :lol1: Irondan is casual ? damn bro:lol1::lol1::lol1:

Both were close fights so you can't complain whoever got the decision in those fights. Thats how I know you're a causal :lol1:

No one said he didn't.. but maidana landed twice as many punches against Floyd why didn't he win??? Both were close fights so you can't complain whoever got the decision in those fights.