Comments Thread For: Team Rigondeaux: Lomachenko Our Main Target, Ball in His Court!

Foe-show. :afro: I'll accept that.

Listen to it. Fo. It's Fo. Foe-show. :afro:

:afro: fa'sho 💯💯💯💯💯 Listen to it. Fo. It's Fo.

Oh of course. Yes. True legends. Definitely. Fo sho. :afro: fa'sho 💯💯💯💯💯

Walters and Russel. 😃 Oh of course. Yes. True legends. Definitely. Fo sho.

Wait WHO has he proved that against again? :lol1: Walters and Russel. 😃

A LOT more skilled? Nah. Rigo has the slick, evasive, defensive ability but as far as offensive skills are concerned, Loma is a magician. It's one form of magic vs another and I think it would be fantastic to see how they would match up in the ring. I really think Loma would have to look out for serious fouls though since Rigo felt it was necessary to beat Flores who doesn't have the skills Loma does. Thankfully that fight was changed to a ND or NC or whatever since it was clear fouls that caused the KO. Ward should've been either DQ'd or given a NC decision as well but Roc Nation paid off the right people for that one. Wait WHO has he proved that against again? :lol1:

Gosh. I really hope Lomachenko doesn't b*tch out. He's a matrix and stuff.

You are correct on that. Only way any fighter who has a great chance of beating one of Arum's top fighters, gets a fight is if they sign over options for future fights. Arum could say what he wants, tell people so and so turned down this much money, but in reality the fight didn't get made was because those fighters didn't want to be tied up to Arum for future fights. What, Loma and Manny have taken n dangerous fighters over the years. I doubt Loma is gonna let Arum stifle his rise to p4p1 after dismantling the dirty move ass boring midget with a big mouth.

Do Roc Nation even have any significance to this guy's career? Why does he have to wait for Arum's offer? Why not make Roc make their own offers? Roc has full of cash and Arum is using borrowed money. Not to mention his ongoing rift with HBO. Point is Roc has more power than any of the small time promoters.

Rigo is A lot more skilled; but loam may be stronger at that weight class. I still would favor Rigo A LOT more skilled? Nah. Rigo has the slick, evasive, defensive ability but as far as offensive skills are concerned, Loma is a magician. It's one form of magic vs another and I think it would be fantastic to see how they would match up in the ring. I really think Loma would have to look out for serious fouls though since Rigo felt it was necessary to beat Flores who doesn't have the skills Loma does. Thankfully that fight was changed to a ND or NC or whatever since it was clear fouls that caused the KO. Ward should've been either DQ'd or given a NC decision as well but Roc Nation paid off the right people for that one.

Lomo never wanted this fight:bottle: Lol Keep telling yourself that. I know that helps you sleep at night :) I pronounce you Black Tunney

They're in different weight classes now and too far spread apart in weight, it makes no sense. Loma's too big for Rigo but if Rigo wants to pull a Brook that's on him, Loma's not moving back down or doing a CW. The difference with Brook is that he moved up 2 classes & fought a sub par skill fighter with a big punch. In this case its just a fast skilled fighter Rigo will go against plus Rigo. is way more skilled than Brook. So I don't see any eye sockets busting in this fight.

So there shouldn't be a problem getting it done, right? They're in different weight classes now and too far spread apart in weight, it makes no sense. Loma's too big for Rigo but if Rigo wants to pull a Brook that's on him, Loma's not moving back down or doing a CW.

Fake fans keep lying to themselves. And you can't talk them out of it even when facts are in front of their faces. Arum: Rigondeaux is Lomachenko's biggest challenge out there. (July 22, 2015.) http://www.************.com/2015/07/arum-rigondeaux-is-lomachenkos-biggest-challenge-out-there/ Bob Arum Looking to Get Rigondeaux vs Lomachenko (Oct 28. 2015) “I would die to do that fight, I was willing to go into my pocket to do it. The deal I offered was each fighter would get $500,000 and the winner would get $500,000. It’s not Rigondeaux, it’s his promoter Caribe. Todd (duBoef from Top Rank) talks to them every couple of weeks. “I would love to do it next year and I think I have a spot for it. We would do it in Toronto on HBO or Monte Carlo and let HBO do an afternoon show. I would pay money to see that fight.” https://www.boxingnewsandviews.com/2015/10/28/bob-arum-looking-to-get-rigondeaux-vs-lomachenko-on/

Does Rigo have a real chance at beating Loma? Yes. Will Arum let anyone who isn't signed with him and who might win fight Loma? No. It has been proven hundreds of times over the decades and nothing has changed. You are correct on that. Only way any fighter who has a great chance of beating one of Arum's top fighters, gets a fight is if they sign over options for future fights. Arum could say what he wants, tell people so and so turned down this much money, but in reality the fight didn't get made was because those fighters didn't want to be tied up to Arum for future fights.

Funny thing is Klimas all of sudden is saying he's just a manager and they need to go through Top Rank to make the fight but yet he's the one talking to Robert Garcia about making a fight between Loma and Mikey. We all know there's no way of Arum allowing a Loma/Mikey fight but it hasn't stopped Klimas from talking to Robert. Klimas a well aware that Arum would never make a fight with Rigo again so he tells them to negotiate with Top Rank so he won't get blamed for the fight not happening. Loma will fight another Top Rank fighter or some lower lever fighter from a small promotional company.

Unless they do that, the fight won't happen, because Arum certainly isn't going to contact them. Rigo, or maybe Rigo's team, are not exactly Arum's favourite people! And yeah, this does remind me a lot of what was going on with Lara and GGG. Lara didn't really want to fight GGG for the kind of money he could realistically expect to get for it. And, imo, the same thing applies to Rigo with Loma. Rigo is a great little fighter, but nobody is going to give maybe 8/10lbs away to a guy like Loma and beat him. In the lower divisions, the money just isn't there to pay Rigo what he would want - and deserve - for moving up two divisions and taking an L. It would be stupid for Arum to talk to angry people with chips on their shoulders. If he initiates the talks he would be confronted with tons of demands as if Loma was the one who started the twitter exchanges. There is not even a motivation to do it as the guy can't draw flies. Casuals don't like him. Only hardcores most of which are the usual people asking for free streams. Even then I was surprised when Arum offered to make the fight in 2015 only to be cursed and called all sorts of names when they themselves were the ones who set their price, which was $500K.

Does Rigo have a real chance at beating Loma? Yes. Will Arum let anyone who isn't signed with him and who might win fight Loma? No. It has been proven hundreds of times over the decades and nothing has changed.

This is probably similar to the Lara case. Decubas tweets and tweets and tweets using Lara's account. In reality, Decubas and Lara don't have to do anything other than talk with Haymon and Al would start the ball rolling. But Decubas and Lara would just rather talk and tweet. In Rigo's case all he has to do is instruct his manager to make phone calls and the manager in turn would talk to the Roc exec, if he is still with them, to start the negotiations. I don't know what is so complicated about that. What I'd like to hear is has Roc people contacted Arum? Unless they do that, the fight won't happen, because Arum certainly isn't going to contact them. Rigo, or maybe Rigo's team, are not exactly Arum's favourite people! And yeah, this does remind me a lot of what was going on with Lara and GGG. Lara didn't really want to fight GGG for the kind of money he could realistically expect to get for it. And, imo, the same thing applies to Rigo with Loma. Rigo is a great little fighter, but nobody is going to give maybe 8/10lbs away to a guy like Loma and beat him. In the lower divisions, the money just isn't there to pay Rigo what he would want - and deserve - for moving up two divisions and taking an L.