Wilder has lost a fan

if wilder was so protected, why didn't he ditch his belt & pick up an easy belt against martin instead of flying overseas to face the #1 heavyweight in the world? and his best win is stiverne, who ring magazine had at #2 in the world when wilder beat him. facts guys. facts. just because boxing politics are frustrating and we'd like to see wilder fight another top 5 heavyweight doesn't mean wilder is at fault and it doesn't give us the right to rewrite history. Ring magazine is complete spunk at rating stiverne #2. REALLY? The guy was contender status all along. I think Spilka would beat stiverne...Also, wilder is do for a step up in competition, no matter what rating system you are viewing.

I hope Zero doesnt come back on this thread and read this ^^^^^^^ He might have a heart attack ! :eek: It's true. He never showed any interest in fighting Klitschko. AJ dismantles Klits in a festive, fan studded event and Wilder is green with envy. AJ does the dirty work and Deontae suddenly wants to join the fun and glitter and want to take away what AJ fought for after avoiding the dirty work of dismantling Klits. He basically avoided the Russian.

Its just clear as day that he's waiting to cash out against Joshua.... I seriously wonder how negotiations for that Joshua fight will go.... Wilder is not getting anything close to 50-50. 70-30 or 75-25 is probably about right but seeing Wilder's demands for the Whyte fight, those negotiations won't be a forgone conclusion.

i say take eddie hearn money and destroy his fighter! Then you can call out aj in the uk and start to build that up! I think ultimately hearn will pay parker big money to unify with aj and they will just leave wilder here in the states left to fight stiverne again then probably ortiz after. He might not make it to aj as champion honestly because ortiz even though he is older he is far more skilled than wilder and very dangerous for him imo! Wilder not a big draw nor is he in position to throw around big money like hearn. Give a sh1t if you're a wilder fan or not, his response to whyte challenge was weak and it will look even weaker when he announces his fighting stiverne again likely for much less than what hearn offered! ^.........bang!..........^

Wilder has nowhere else to go now. Hell will break lose if he fights another Stiverne level opponent. But there's no doubt he was not in a hurry to fight the Klitschko's and Fury's, etc., as soon as he got his title. He was asked several times on FNF what he wanted to do after he got his belt. More like I;ll fight them when the time comes. There was no immediacy in his tone. He was following the Haymon culture of holding on to the belt as long as possible.

The moment Wilder fights a good fighter, then my respect for him will return, but at the moment, he's only fighting bums like Golovin did before fighting Jacobs... I'm sure he will breathe a huge sigh of relief at that time.

I say take Eddie Hearn Money and Destroy his Fighter! Then you can call out AJ IN THE UK and start to build that up! Sitting Around For Unification Opportunity is STUPID! He is not in the position to do that! No such thing as "Mandatory Unification" so AJ and Parker don't have to do SH1T with him especially if they can get bigger money elsewhere. I think Ultimately Hearn will Pay Parker BIG MONEY to Unify with AJ and they will just leave Wilder here in the states left to fight Stivernie again then probably Ortiz after. He might not make it to AJ as Champion honestly because Ortiz even though he is OLDER he is far more skilled than Wilder and very Dangerous for him IMO! Wilder not a draw nor is he in Position to throw around big Money like Hearn. Give a sh1t if you're a Wilder fan or not his response to Whyte Challenge was WEAK and it will look even Weaker when he announces his fighting Stivernie again likely for much Less than what Hearn offered!

I will say this though in Wilder's defense: It ain't exactly like that HW division is stacked with elite opposition. It is more difficult finding high quality guys to fight at HW. That said it's pretty f**king obvious that he's a highly, HIGHLY protected fighter.

Hell Lomachenko only got 9 career pro fights under his belt and he already has 3 five star rated opponents on his resume...that;s three more than Wilder has in 38 pro fights :lol1:

It's actually amazing when you think about it You know how boxrec has that formula how they rate fighters? From what I've heard, it's all done by a formula, so it's not actually human opinion. It's not biased. I know it's not perfect -- nothing is, but at least it takes the human factor out of the equation which can be biased. They rate fighters on a star system as well -- zero to five stars. And it's done in half stars. Out of all 38 of his opponents, only TWICE has he fought a four star rated fighter (Stiverne, Szpilka). 6 times he has fought 3 star opponents, and the rest are 2 and a half and below. Out of 38 fights. That is f**king incredible :lol1: To put that into perspective, Pacquiao's 16 opponents previous to Horn (who is a 4 star) were ALL five star rated opponents. Golovkin who gets sh*tted on constantly, has fought 8 five star rated opponents (including Canelo) and seven 4 star rated opponents. Danny Garcia who often gets labeled a cherry picker, has fought seven 5 star rated opponents compared to ZERO for Wilder. Wilder's got an atrocious resume. I'm not saying dude is a bum or anything, I mean having a 38-0 record with 37 KOs against Walmart greeters is still f**king impressive, lol. But yeah, dude's opposition strength is pretty f**king laughable.

Yea based on the landscape at the moment I call bs on this "fan" lost angle. There isn't anyone he SHOULD be fighting right now really (Joshua & Parker are booked & the earliest either could be available is likely 5-6+ months from now). And there certainly isn't anyone he SHOULD be fighting right now that he's for sure NOT fighting that we are aware of cuz no opponent has been selected. D- troll thread &/or guy wasn't a fan in the first place. Why not fight ortiz or pulev? **** might as well even offer bryant jennings a fight. Any of those guys is a solid opponent and ortiz and pulev could even be dangerous fights depending how they go. He will fight none of them though is my bet, just watch, his next fight will be another unkown unranked guy that he fights in alabama. Rinse and repeat.

Klit didn't make history chump:bottle: He doesn't need discrediting....Ross Purrity and a full time GOLFER did that:lol1::lol1: Why can't they actually FIGHT Wilder instead of basking in the glow of a better resume?? Brook did more than Spence.... How did that work out for him? Wlad fought the best guys available even if they werent on his level. Wilder doesnt do that. AJ Wlad Ortiz Pulev Bryant jennings Those are the best guys in the division hes fought absolutely none of them, and i dont think hes even faced a top 10 guy for what its worth, you cannot dispute this. He fought gerald washington and was getting jabbed to death by him before the stoppage. I know its hard for you to be objective but its true, wilder has fought no one and doesnt seem like he wants to. AJ had the title for a couple months and signed on to fight wlad, wilder has had the belt for 2 and a half years and hasnt fought ANYBODY. He also turned down an ortiz fight on short notice when he had a full camp. Then talked **** afterwards like he always does, its all talk no action from him thats why im not a fan anymore.

I agree with what you said 100%. Wilder only agrees to fight a tough guy when it's that or lose his title. When he has a choice he defends his title against guys most fans never heard of in his home state. AJ is my champion because he beat a top 3 heavyweight. Wilder has yet to defend his title against a top 10 contender. If and when he beats AJ I will consider him the heavyweight champion of the world. Until then he is just a cherry picking belt holder. He could fight Ortiz. That is who a good champion would fight.

How "remarkable" are his opponents supposed to be? Boxing has four leagues each with their own champion and #1 contender. So getting someone in the top 8 to fight you is very difficult. Stiverne was #2 in the world when Deontay dominated him to win the most prestigious championship in the history of fighting, the WBC heavyweight championship of the world. He's been the champion for two years. He's been very active and he's won every defense by knockout. It's not his fault Povetkin cheated. It's not his fault Povetkin cheated AGAIN, meaning he now has to fight Stiverne again. 40 fights is very misleading. Deontay didn't start training until he was 19. Most elite boxers start at like 5 years old. So of course he was brought along slower than most. But his opposition blows away Parker's opposition. And he's tried desperately to get Parker in the ring, but Arum is blocking the fight. Deontay can't force people to fight him. He's wanted to fight Joshua from the second Joshua had a belt, but Hearn, Haymon, Showtime, the WBC and the IBF all realize the fight would make wayyyyyyy more money next year than it would make this year. If Joshua and Wilder keep winning, they're on a collision course for late 2018 or Spring 2019 and the fight is going to be massive. Interesting rhetoric. Get's even more interesting when you compare Wilder with someone else... Wilder started boxing at 19 and had an amateur record of 30-5. Joshua started boxing at 18 and had an amateur record of 40-3. They are both olympians. Sounds like their professional careers should also be quite similar then, right? Yet at 19 fights Joshua fought Vladimir Klitschko, whereas at 19 fights Wilder fought.. Daniel Cota?

Wilder wants to fight the best. Dillan Whyte is the same level as the bums he been fighting. This is why boxing fans are retarded. Wilder fights Whyte it's another bum on his resume . Wilder doesn't fight Whyte he's a cherry picking hype job. Fvck these lames. You can never please them. Keep putting pressure on Joshua and Parker and try to achieve your dreams on becoming undisputed champ. Then you also gotta look at it from a fan's viewpoint. The way I see it is that Wilder is actively refusing a tuneup fight to keep him in shape for any of the other champions who he definitely can't get right now and giving up a lot of money in the process. I don't think Whyte poses too big of a threat against Wilder so why not take the money? Because he's about fighting the best? He clearly can't fight them because they have fights lined up.

Klit didn't make history chump:bottle: He doesn't need discrediting....Ross Purrity and a full time GOLFER did that:lol1::lol1: Why can't they actually FIGHT Wilder instead of basking in the glow of a better resume?? Brook did more than Spence.... How did that work out for him? Oh right, sorry. I forgot - only people with a 0 should be recognized as part of history. Dismissing what Klitchko has achieved over the years is just flat out stupid. That's dumb. Don't be dumb. Be sensible. While you're at it, check out the current state of the HW game. You'll find that AJ has contractual obligations with Klitchko - signing a Wilder fight right now would be a legal nightmare. You'll also find that Parker is a few months away from his first mandatory since capturing the WBO belt. Wilder can go back to fighting bums for chump change in the meantime, no dramas. No wonder the majority call Wilder apologists a bunch of idiots - they generally are.

F*ck outta here with that emotional out burst. Wilder is no more protected than Joshua and Fury What have they done?? NOTHING. They've done more than Wilder, so does that mean Wilder has done...sub nothing? I see you've already discredited Klitchko, but whether you like it or not, he was the man at Heavyweight for many years. You can't take that chunk of history out just to suit your bias. One win against Klitchko for those guys is more than Wilder has achieved - full stop.

There's a ton of Wilder haters on here bashing him because he DOESN'T want to fight Whyte, because Whyte is mediocre. I'm telling these fools that Wilder will get criticized if he fights Whyte and this thread is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Parker's fight is delayed while Hughie takes a tune-up. But, Parker won't fight him. Wlad is 50/50 about AJ and I'm sure Wilder will step up if Wlad decides to retire. Parker should have tried to fight Wilder. His promoters and himself got cold feet or I don't know what. But Parker is scheduled to fight Fury September 23. Parker should see if he can have his mandatory overruled to fight Wilder in a unification. I agree. I think his promoters do not want Wilder though unfortunately. Joshua is tied up regardless of whether Klitschko agrees to rematch or not. The IBF stated after Hearn filed the exemption that the winner of the Joshua-Klitschko rematch must fight Pulev next, no exceptions, no exemptions. If Klitschko declines it's stated that Joshua must fight Pulev his mandatory, the only exception was for Klitschko. So Joshua is tied up regardless. The IBF is the strictest of the sanctioning bodies and they will strip Joshua. So at the moment Deontay cannot fight any of the champions it looks like and that's not Deontays fault. So we'll see what is next for Wilder, whether it's his mandatory or someone else.

F*ck outta here with that emotional out burst. Wilder is no more protected than Joshua and Fury What have they done?? NOTHING. It's not wilders fault. He's due for a semi big fight though

Dibella only promotes one successful fighter, this is the problem. He will risk absolutely nothing toward his cash cow