Dillian Whyte "Wilder You Got 900k For Last Fight I'm Offering 4 Mill+ Are U Scared"

Are you seriously that stupid? We're all very aware Pulev is after Klitschko. I didn't say Fury is immediately after Klitschko. I said Hearn's plan is for Wilder to be last after Klitschko and Fury, not that there wouldn't be other fights. There is a Pulev mandatory. There is an Ortiz mandatory. Wilder will be waiting a while. But my point is that if Fury is an option, it makes no sense to rush to Wilder. You do Fury first. That doesn't mean Fury is immediately after Klitschko. Learn how to read dude before you start falsely accusing people of misinformation. Nobody has posted more about IBF rules and Pulev's situation than I have. You should know better. No, you are out of line. Respect is respect. If your excuse is that you pretend to be a dishonorable scumbag on the internet but aren't really one in real life, well that's pathetic. You made a false accusation. Be a man and apologize. If you were confused by my initial post, an honorable man would have asked for clarification before jumping to a misguided attack on my credibility. Misguided attack on your credibility? Mate, you're trying to call someone on a f*cking boxing forum a dishonorable scumbag because they claimed that you are misinformed. There is absolutely no way you can imply that I'm pathetic without realizing your gross over-exaggeration and blowing sh*t out of proportion. That is a huge overreaction and way out of line. Like I said, scumbags of the world are the robbers, beaters and cheaters. If you align someone who believed you are misinformed regarding something in the future of boxing, with that level of disgrace, you have some serious priority issues. That's on you, not me. Take a very long look at yourself before you bother coming back - it would be due diligence to at least cover the possibility that you've got issues. A wise person once told me - I would be wise not to rip into someone who believes they are right. For all you're doing is perpetuating your own beliefs and lack of empathy. I am done with you. Peace.

Something is either true or it isn't. You can label something an excuse or a polar bear, but that doesn't change where it's true. Because you're a butthurt fan, you cry "excuse" when the facts prove that you're wrong. Red K me all you want. I don't know what that means and I don't care. If you care about internet reputation points, you're sadder than I though. People with a life do not care about red Ks, blue Ms, green Ls, or anything else. Grow up. Blind fandom? Hahahaha. Not a fan. This is my job. When I go to a fight, I'm on press row, not in the stands. So you're a fan. Enjoy whatever you want. I'm not telling you who to support. But your opinions are based on the false statements made publicly by people who want to control what you think and you're making it very easy for them. But the facts don't support your premise. If his team doesn't want dangerous fights, why did they let him fly overseas to face the #1 heavyweight in the world in Russia? His team controlled a very weak IBF champion. Wilder could have unified with Martin and then vacated the WBC title. Would have been very easy. But his team believed he would beat Povetkin. Vegas believed he would beat Povetkin. It's not his fault Povetkin cheated. Twice. If Wilder had knocked out Povetkin, you wouldn't be crying right now. Just look at it this way. Wilder has had the belt for 2 and a half years, fought absolutely no one and doesnt have **** signed yet and it looks like hes turned down whyte and his biggest payday as well. Aj had the belt for just a few months and already had a wlad fight signed within 1 year and won the fight. and guess who his promotor is its EDDIE HEARN who wilder seems to be avoiding business with lmao.You see what i mean? Its not that ****ing hard to land a big fight if you really want to, and it doesnt take 2 and a half years and counting to do it. If wilder and his team wanted ortiz they would have got him a long time ago. It took Aj less than a year of having the belt to fight a legend of the sport. Theres him talking all that **** and saying he wants ortiz, i have yet to even hear any rumors of that fight being signed

He didn't turn Ortiz down. Ortiz was not an option. You have to stop letting yourself get brainwashed by propaganda. Fighters and promoters make public statements all the time intended to fool the public. Ortiz was never going to fight for the kind of money that was available for a last minute replacement and Haymon was never going to allow Wilder vs Ortiz so soon when Haymon was trying to sign Ortiz and get him the WBA belt. No, you don't even know where the forest is, let alone how to spell it. Parker's promoter was moving him up the WBO rankings for years and made little effort to pursue the WBC route. If you don't know how this sport works, stop preaching about forests. When Parker won a title, then Wilder wanted him. When Parker didn't have a title and was a random WBO mandatory that nobody cared about, why would the WBC champion been chasing him? Ortiz was interim WBA champion and moving towards the WBA mandatory for years. Why would Wilder have been chasing a WBA mandatory? As soon as Ortiz has the WBA belt, Wilder will be chasing him the same way he chased Parker when he got a belt. False. You have no way of knowing that. Hearn throwing out random numbers publicly means nothing and you don't know what Wilder has made for all his fights. We do know though that the Povetkin purse, which he's entitled to thanks to his lawsuit win, is his biggest payday we're aware of. Not blaming Eddie for anything. He's a great promoter and like all promoters, his job is to fool the public. I'm blaming you for being fooled. Wow, more excuses and justification for wilder not fighting anyone. Been 2 and a half years. About to be 3 soon. have some red k for your blind fandom. I was a big wilder fan, now i see him for what he is. Hes a protected fighter who takes the least risk possible while waiting to cash out. He or his team do not want dangerous fights. I cant back that, and advise fans like you not to either. Hes not acting like a true champion, if he was he would be wanting ortiz ASAP. Just like he said in his recent IG video talking all that **** about him.......yet i still see no ortiz fight signed. What i do see though is avoiding a career high payday.

Deontay will take care of the Haitian, then if that Whyte money is still there, go take that We bout to send that Haitian on permanent vacation.

So you save Wilder for last after you presumably get by Klitschko and then make huge huge, easy easy easy money against Fury. I never said Fury was directly after Klitschko, I said if Fury was available, it makes more business sense to fight Fury before Wilder instead of after. Fury and Wilder are both miles away, Wilder is just more miles away if Hearn can get Fury into the ring. You still can't quote a single thing I said that was misinformation. If the problem is that you don't know how to read, just admit it. But to make a serious accusation, and refuse to back it up, makes you an incredible coward. You clearly left out Pulev in this timeline - it's a non-negotiable mando. "get by Klitchko, and then make easy easy money against Fury". This is what you said, this is also where I came in. If you're going to put together a timeline, don't leave out a critical, non-negotiable piece. Now cut back on the condescending sh*t. If you choose to live your life as a dishonorable scumbag, that's your problem. The facts are on my side and I can easily defend my position. If you don't want to apologize for the false accusation, you're the one that has to live with being a horrible human being. This is what has be cracking up. You've just dropped a MASSIVE reply post, ending with some garble about being a dishonorable scumbag? Come on dude, the dishonorable scumbags of the world are the ones out there robbing folk, cheating folk and beating folk. This is a f*cking boxing discussion forum. Dial your sh*t back and get some perspective about things- you're way out of line. You're triggered mate, and while I applaud you for your dedication, it's a little creepy at the same time.

No, actually Luis Ortiz is Anthony Joshua's WBA's mandatory challenger and not Deontay Wilder's. Moreover, if he chooses not to fight him, chances are he will likely get that title stripped from him.

We already know what is likely to happen. Wilder fights Stiverne again because he has no choice, all of you haters cry and whine about it, Wilder knocks him out, tries to get a unification fight, the other champions won't fight him, and he ends up fighting another top ranked WBC opponent, all you haters cry and whine, etc. Why did he turn ortiz down after having a full camp and fight gerald washington instead? You just cant see the forrest for the trees. He had 2 years to make a ortiz or parker fight and never did. Now when everyone is tied up he all of a sudden wants those fights. Already turned down ortiz =Fact Turning down a career high payday to fight whyte=Fact And you cant blame eddie hearn for that eddie hearn delivers great fights and is not hard to to business with him at all. Just ask GGG, Spence and Wlad. Only wilder has a problem now lol. Because team wilder potentially view whyte as a dangerous fight is the truth, there is no reason to turn that fight down at all its goo for business.

Fight is obviously gonna happen. Will build his brand for the aj fight too Whyte is likely done after the chisora fight Hearn as the promoter is trying to hustle the fighter and by criticising wilder saying "take the 4mil" you are siding with the promoter. Wilder is probably just trying a negotiate a deal where he gets as much money as possible. Fighters fight for money....as hardcore fans who follow the sport we should know this by now. Doin some rough basic math....based on hearn sayin aj whyte did 420k buys, aj martin 500k, aj molina 445k, aj wlad 1.2mil.....if wilder whyte does 400k at 20quid a pop thats 8mil pounds, half of which goes to sky. So 4 mil pounds plus gate of 2 mil dollars of 20k tickets at 40pounds average a pop ......thats 7mil dollars total for the fighters, not including american or other tv.

Well since Deontay has a due mandatory v/Stiverne, no reason making a fuss about Dillian Whyte. Deontay will take care of the Haitian, then if that Whyte money is still there, go take that

I suspect wilder is just trying to cash out in a huge aj fight. Hes going to avoid anyone even remotely dangerous until that happens. Hope he proves me wrong and fights ortiz next.

If you're not interested, don't watch. But the misdirected anger is clearly rooted in something deeper. Either lack of sex, financial problems, issues at home, etc. Happy fulfilled people do not react the way you're reacting. He defended the title five times in those two years. He's been a very active champion and has won every defense by knock out. You know very little about boxing, so to you, these guys are nobodies. Even though Duhaupas went on to win the WBC silver championship by knocking out Helenius, catapulting him into the TBRB top ten for six months last year. Even though after Wilder knocked out Molina, Joshua defended against Molina on pay-per-view. Even though Szpilka had only lost to Jennings. These were credible top 15 contenders that anybody following the sport closely was very familiar with. Obviously the big fight would have been the mandatory against Povetkin, but it's not Wilder's fault he cheated. And now Wilder is stuck fighting Stiverne again because Povetkin was caught cheating a second time. Not Wilder's fault. Wilder is the longest reigning heavyweight champion. Wilder is the most active heavyweight champion. Wilder is the most ducked heavyweight champion. If you'd prefer to see Wilder vs AJ, or Klitschko, or Ortiz, or Fury, I don't blame you. I'd like to see it too. But when you have four leagues with four number one contenders, you don't always get the fights you want right away. I guarantee you Wilder is more frustrated than you are. He'd love to make a $10 million payday, but he's just going to have to wait for things to shake out. The top guys are not in a rush to fight Wilder. They know how dangerous he is. He'll get the AJ fight when it makes business sense for both sides. He doesn't need to do anything. You sound like an entitled brat. You need to get a life and stop trying to live vicariously through other people. Ortiz is not available. Ortiz is the WBA #1 and Haymon is going to force AJ to vacate if he ducks Ortiz. Wilder vs Ortiz as a unification is worth wayyyyy more money than it's worth right now. Povetkin failing a drug test is not an excuse. Povetkin failing again, leading to Stiverne getting another shot is not an excuse. These are facts. Wow so many excuses you wrote half an essay full of them. Wilder hasnt done **** with the belt, and continues to not do ****. Im sorry thats what it is. You can try to justify it all you want, i tried to but im not going to anymore. Hes a very protected fighter, he even already turned down ortiz when he had a full camp. I want to see what you say when he announces his next unranked bum for a voluntary then beats him and claims he wants all the big fights. Rinse and repeat, been going on for 2 and a half years already. You sound emotional over the truth.

Oh really? Well let's see if you manage to point out a single example of misinformation . . . this should be fun . . . I appreciate the information sir, but thus far, you have failed to point out a single thing I said that was misinformation. The point is that when plotting out AJ's career, it made more sense to pursue Klitschko, Fury and Wilder in that order. The Wilder fight only gets bigger the longer they wait and Fury is such an easy fight for such massive money there's no way you do Wilder until after Fury. Mandatories along the way of course. But the point is that Wilder is AJ's biggest risk, AJ is Wilder's biggest risk, and all parties are saving that one until after the easy money has been collected. So you can't say Wilder is pricing himself out of the fight because the fight isn't possible anytime soon. That has nothing to do with me. You've still failed to back up your very serious accusation that I posted misinformation. You owe me an apology. You couldn't point out a single whiff though. You just dreamed the whiff in your head. Read my post again and point out a single thing that wasn't true. You can't. You're too emotional. You're sensitive about the criticism from others, so you lump me in without actually processing what I wrote. You quite clearly claimed that AJ is being taken down the direction of Klitchko, and then onto an easy easy easy easy money fight against Fury. Ridiculously, Hearn has had to come out and point out what everyone should already know - a potential fight against Fury, if it did happen, would be miles away. If Fury wasn't popping his bald head up every now and then to throw a new soundbyte and stay relevant, there wouldn't be any momentum to Fury-Joshua discussions. But it stays alive because people continue this unsubstantiated bullsh*t. Then you go on to say the Puppet Master realizes that Wilder is a more dangerous fight than Klitchko. No, he realizes that a fight with Klitchko would make a lot more money than a fight with Wilder - it's dollars and cents, not rocket science. That green belt Wilder has been clinging onto for the last 30 months, didn't give him enough marketing power to trump Klitchko. Any thought that Hearn believes Wilder is too dangerous to go near, is completely subjective and lacking substance. And where you got this idea that I think Wilder is pricing himself out of anything, I don't know - I haven't said anything remotely close to that. I don't owe you sh*t.

Ortiz and Wilder are both controlled by Haymon. Ortiz is Joshua's mandatory. Why the **** would Haymon have Ortiz fight Wilder right now when Joshua will most likely vacate to avoid Ortiz, gifting Haymon another heavyweight title? You're a fan. Watch whatever fights interest you. Post all day long about what you'd like to see. But when you start trying to give Wilder business advice, with absolutely no understanding of how the business works, you look like an utter fool. Because hes had the ****ing belt for over 2 years and fought NOBODY thats ****ing why. All him and his team do is beat around the bush and make excuses as to why they havent fought no one. Just like you are now. He needs to fight someone ASAP, parker,aj and fury arent availabe. Ortiz is and has been vocal about wanting the fight himself and is viewed as a top guy. Theres a good fight right there wich would give him the oppurtunity to make a big statement and set up an AJ fight. Hes not just going to get AJ now by sitting around fighting bums and waiting to cash out, AJ proved himself against wlad time for wilder to do the same thing.

You're being brainwashed Russ. You're getting one side of the story because Whyte's puppet master is flooding the media with propaganda and Wilder's puppet master doesn't speak publicly. Wilder hasn't priced himself out of anything. He's the WBC heavyweight champion of the world. There's nothing he could possibly price himself out of other than a unification fight. He has the top championship in the history of fighting. Joshua isn't available and won't be available for a while. That is not Wilder's fault and has nothing to do with Wilder pricing himself out. It has to do with Joshua's puppet master realizing Wilder is a more dangerous fight than a Klitschko rematch or a Fury fight. So you save Wilder for last after you presumably get by Klitschko and then make huge huge, easy easy easy money against Fury. There's some misinformation in here, so you probably should hold fire on the whole "You're being brainwashed" talk. I can't fathom for the life of me why it is so hard for some people to figure the AJ situation out. This whole "Hearn is protecting Joshua from Wilder" narrative is ridiculous. Klitchko has a rematch clause - it's contracted, it's legal, it doesn't matter what AJ or Hearn want - it is completely and utterly in Klitchko's hands. Secondly, Pulev is AJ's mandatory - part of the exception the IBF granted for the rematch to occur, is that AJ MUST defend the title against Pulev afterwards. If he does not honor this, the IBF strips him. Simple. On every single Wilder related thread, there is someone going around talking about AJ being protected from Wilder. No, AJ is busy with obligations that will cost him an arm and a leg in court should he refuse them. You often speak as if you're very well informed on other matters, but you've completely whiffed on this one. Unfortunately, common sense and basic understanding of what's in front of everyone to see, trumps the narrative that you're pushing.

You're being brainwashed Russ. You're getting one side of the story because Whyte's puppet master is flooding the media with propaganda and Wilder's puppet master doesn't speak publicly. Wilder hasn't priced himself out of anything. He's the WBC heavyweight champion of the world. There's nothing he could possibly price himself out of other than a unification fight. He has the top championship in the history of fighting. Joshua isn't available and won't be available for a while. That is not Wilder's fault and has nothing to do with Wilder pricing himself out. It has to do with Joshua's puppet master realizing Wilder is a more dangerous fight than a Klitschko rematch or a Fury fight. So you save Wilder for last after you presumably get by Klitschko and then make huge huge, easy easy easy money against Fury. That leaves Parker, who Wilder very aggressively tried to get in the ring. Both by offering to fill in on short notice as well as also offering huge money to unify live on FOX on July 15. By far bigger money than Parker will get to face Hughie. But Bob Arum does not want to let Parker anywhere near Wilder right now. So Wilder has no chance of unifying anytime soon. The other champions consider him the most dangerous fight, so he's going to have to wait. If he keeps winning and Joshua keeps winning, they will surely fight. But it's a cash out fight for both of them, potentially with rematches. There's no way Hearn allows that fight to happen before Fury if he thinks he can get Fury in the ring. Nor should he. This is a business. There is an order you do things in to minimize risk and maximize earning potential. Well then wilder should just fight ortiz, or get that payday against whyte. He made 1 mil his last fight 3mil and a huge uk fight wont hurt him boxing is booming over there Im tired of him fighting no names, atleast fight ortiz then to make a statement.

I would fight Dillian Whyte only under the following circumstances: One, there's a rematch clause in the contract and two, if Deontay Wilder wins he is the guaranteed next opponent for all of Anthony Joshua's titles. The reason why I am saying this because I get this strange and eerily feeling that Eddie Hearn is protecting Anthony Joshua from Deontay Wilder. Hearn wants to control and possess all of the major sanctioning bodies' belts but he doesn't want to risk Anthony Joshua to do so. Bold is not possible. If Hearn were to guarantee that Joshua will fight Wilder next then it would not be for all of Joshua's titles because the IBF would strip him. Their exception ruling for the Klitschko rematch clearly state this. The only thing Hearn can guarantee is the first fight after Pulev, which would be totally fair and probably expected anyway. Well, that is unless Parker makes a name for himself in the UK against the likes of Hughie and Bellew while Wilder is unwilling to put in any leg work for the Joshua shot as that'd probably result in a Parker fight making Hearn more money so he'd be inclined to go there first. Seems like Wilder and Parker are gonna be battling it out to see who get's to face Joshua first.

I would fight Dillian Whyte only under the following circumstances: One, there's a rematch clause in the contract and two, if Deontay Wilder wins he is the guaranteed next opponent for all of Anthony Joshua's titles. The reason why I am saying this because I get this strange and eerily feeling that Eddie Hearn is protecting Anthony Joshua from Deontay Wilder. Hearn wants to control and possess all of the major sanctioning bodies' belts but he doesn't want to risk Anthony Joshua to do so.

I would fight Dillian Whyte only under the following circumstances: One, there's a rematch clause in the contract and two, if Deontay Wilder wins he is the guaranteed next opponent for Anthony Joshua's titles. The reason why I am saying this because I get this strange and eerily feeling that Eddie Hearn is protecting Anthony Joshua from Deontay Wilder. Hearn wants to control and possess all of the major sanctioning bodies' belts but he doesn't want to risk Anthony Joshua to do so.

If he is indeed gonna make this much for Whyte, then he should take the fight while AJ fights Klitschko, then both take care of their mandatories after, which will set up the AJ fight after that. But then again I don't think the other champs really want to fight Wilder

For such a paper Champ it sure is hard for Wilder to get the other Champs in the ring. Evidently they know something you sofa surfers don't. Other champs don't want to fight Wilder.. Everyone wants AJ. You give credit to Wilder for calling out AJ.. So why hate Parker for wanting AJ too? Even Andre Ward wants AJ.. Heck even UFC fighters are calling out AJ, he's the big ticket atm. Parker is fighting in the UK to up his profile so he gets a AJ shot.. Parker is already talking about fighting Bellew after Hughie Fury so don't be surprised when Parker fights AJ next year while Wilder is left in the dark. Parker Is doing the right moves by fighting in the UK.. Wilder should learn from Parker and take the Whyte fight.