His only win worth a damn is Chisora who himself never beat anyone worth a damn and was far past his worthless prime when Whyte fought him..Why the hell does anyone want Wilder to fight him?? isnt that just another bum for him to fight??
I mean, it's all relative. A lot of people saying don't fight Whyte, he's a chump. But how many guys in the HW division would you actually put at a level above Whyte? He's better than Molina and the version of Arreola that Wilder fought. I think he'd be in competitive fights against Szpilka, Duhaupas, Stiverne and Washington. Those are all B level guys imo. There's really only half a dozen or so guys that I think are clearly above that level.
This. Whyte is the same level as Molina, Washington, Ruiz jr and that guys.
I mean, it's all relative. A lot of people saying don't fight Whyte, he's a chump. But how many guys in the HW division would you actually put at a level above Whyte? He's better than Molina and the version of Arreola that Wilder fought. I think he'd be in competitive fights against Szpilka, Duhaupas, Stiverne and Washington. Those are all B level guys imo. There's really only half a dozen or so guys that I think are clearly above that level.
Am I missing something, has Wilder ever got more money for 1 fight?
Is he stupid or what? Why not fight average fighter for big money?
Whyte fight is a good start for nice english run:
1. fight Whyte
2. fight Bellew in Liverpool
3. huge fight with Joshua in London
What is his plan instead of that? Does he have any?
He should have taken the money and showed the UK fans a little more of what he would bring to the AJ fight. In the UK nobody knows him, they just know he's the next big fight for AJ.
If he put on a good performance and knocked Whyte out then it would have got the British crowd wet with excitement at the prospect of AJ fighting someone his own size and age. I
think Hearn knows DW wouldn't have a chance but he's willing to over pay now and cash it all back in when AJ and Wilder get it on.
Come one Stiverne would smoke Shyte. Washington and Duhaupas would probably give him wars..
Stiverne is cr*p.. Even Wilder himself said Stiverne lost against Rossy.. He lost against a bum ROSSY And got knocked down flat on his arse!! but was gifted the win.. C'mon dude Wilder admitted that himself so why you trying to make Stiverne out to be some elite fighter?
I know it makes Wilder's look bad that Stiverne lost to a legitimate bum Rossy and Rossy who has feather fists managed to drop him and Wilder didn't.. But only Wilder nut huggers can convince themselves that Stiverne is good.. Your own man said he's sh*t.
I am actually legitimately surprised that people are saying Wilder is ducking Whyte. Who is Whyte for anyone to be ducking? I think in the RBR thread I had Chisora winning the fight against him, lol.
But I do think it would be a good business move for Wilder to take this fight. He would get exposure to UK audience, good payday, another highlight reel KO most likely.
He'd probably also get a decent amount of criticism about fighting him, even though he's supposedly ducking him, but the good outweighs the bad here in my view.
Wilder needs to get the Stiverne mando out of the way and then fight someone good right away. I would prefer that someone to be better than Whyte though.
I wouldn't call it a duck, but for a guy like Wilder who claims to be about his money, it sure looks weird to price himself out of his biggest payday fighting the type of guy he's had no qualms fighting before...
maybe its all negotiation tactics. we don't know what goes on behind the scenes. this twitter **** is for show
on top of that, Wilder isn't a draw...when you not a draw, you either fight at home or travel...
It's not the best but it's a decent fight and good exposure in the UK.
Also an opportunity to try and beat him better than AJ did.
Why not? It's not a bad fight.
Come one Stiverne would smoke Shyte. Washington and Duhaupas would probably give him wars..
F*ck No. Stiverne barely got past a gatekeeper. Duhaupas, absolutely not. Washington, I doubt it.
He has a fight to build his name up for AJ in the UK, for a lot of momey, and he doesn't take it? You guys are lying to yourself. If it was easy as it can be he would have taken the $3 million. He doesn't even get that much in his other fights.
Wilder fights bums and doesn't have more than one top ten (And to me Stiverne was never good) on his resume. The irony, you see these Wilder defenders nitpicking GGG on every single detail but defending Wilder of all people, LOL.
This right here. Hearn brings him to UK, he knocks out Whyte, and builds towards a mega fight with AJ in the UK next year.
It's not like there are a lot of other great options.
Guys, guys, the Wilder-Joshua fight WILL BE IN THE US. It doesn't matter how known Wilder is to British casuals..
I'm genuinely just asking who else? I'm not saying you said he shoudn't fight him.
What i'm wondering about are all these fans so against this fight. Why?! It's a perfect build up to the fight we all want to see. plus no one else is available except for Stiverne *yawn* or Ortiz - which would be awesome, but won't happen.
I don't get it.
How do we know he isn't fighting Parker or Ortiz? Ortiz is only out until Sep/Oct and DiBella is talking about that as Wilder's return date..
Yeah, he has a big mouth and is ranked in the top 10 at HW but let's face it, after Ortiz the list goes down hill. Parker and Miller are a work in progress.
Not a bad paycheck for low risk. He's not getting Joshua next. He needs to stay busy.This right here. Hearn brings him to UK, he knocks out Whyte, and builds towards a mega fight with AJ in the UK next year.
It's not like there are a lot of other great options.
Wilder fans coming out now supporting Wilder for not fighting the "BUM" Whyte for 4million.. But you never had a problem when he fought all his 38 other bums for far less money!! Where were all you people when he was due to fight the bum Washington for 900k? Or the bum Wawrzyk before him?.
All a sudden you want to criticise opponents and say aren't good enough for Wilder but didn't have a problem with his last 38 bums. Ironic how you criticise Whyte when he would be Wilder's best oppnent so far and he's known to he entertaining outside the ring aswell as inside the ring as many considered his fight to be FOTY.
This will come back to bite you guys in the azz because it sounds Wilder will be fighting Whyte sometimes soon after Stiverne anyway because Whyte is very highly ranked by WBC. Where he does eventually fight him and if he gets rocked by Whyte I wana here all you guys say Wilder got rocked by a bum.
Come one Stiverne would smoke Shyte. Washington and Duhaupas would probably give him wars..
Who should he fight?
Pulev is waiting, Klitschko & Joshua are tied, Parker is tied, Fury is fat, Hughie is tied, Povetkin is out..... Who exactly is available and better than Whyte?
I struggle to understand why people wouldn't want to see this. It would be a hilariously tense build up and the fight would be all out action.
And Whyte definitely is a threat to chicken leg wilder.
It might be a good option. It should be in the US though. I think Hearn and Shyte want it in the UK..
He gave Joshua his most competitive fight at the time and cuz Joshua is seen as even better than he's proven thus far (not to say he's not tip top, but some mfers think he's a superhero) Whyte is seen as better then he is too. You'd think the life or death fight with Chisora woulda brought him back down to reality with fans, but UK fans are mors loyal and dedicated to their fighters than US fans are to our boxers. People would be calling Whyte a bum and suggesting he should retire if he was a US fighter lol.
The truth is somewhere in the middle.
The only reason ANYONE cares about Shyte is because he beat AJ in like AJ's 2nd amateur fight. Other than that his career has been completely unremarkable and were he not British, he would be fighting the likes of Breazeale and Washington and probably getting smoked.
Brits think he's a raging monster-beast for whatever reason, it's really quote silly..
I'm genuinely just asking who else? I'm not saying you said he shoudn't fight him.
What i'm wondering about are all these fans so against this fight. Why?! It's a perfect build up to the fight we all want to see. plus no one else is available except for Stiverne *yawn* or Ortiz - which would be awesome, but won't happen.
I don't get it.
To be honest no one, he isn't going to fight Ortiz and even if he does he would get the sort of pay that he would get fighting Whyte. But am not going to criticise him now until I know who he fights next.
I don't think people understand that fighting Whyte helps promote him better to the casuals over here, and that's due in part to them knowing of the rivalry between Whyte and Joshua.
He should fight Whyte..... where did I say he shouldn't fight him? Because I don't see Whyte as a great to him?
I'm genuinely just asking who else? I'm not saying you said he shoudn't fight him.
What i'm wondering about are all these fans so against this fight. Why?! It's a perfect build up to the fight we all want to see. plus no one else is available except for Stiverne *yawn* or Ortiz - which would be awesome, but won't happen.
I don't get it.
Who should he fight?
Pulev is waiting, Klitschko & Joshua are tied, Parker is tied, Fury is fat, Hughie is tied, Povetkin is out..... Who exactly is available and better than Whyte?
I struggle to understand why people wouldn't want to see this. It would be a hilariously tense build up and the fight would be all out action.
And Whyte definitely is a threat to chicken leg wilder.
He should fight Whyte..... where did I say he shouldn't fight him? Because I don't see Whyte as a great to him?