Now that he's legitimately proven his critics wrong and defeated arguably the best (and most feared) 175 lb fighter right now how well do you think he would do against these past HOF/ATG fighters?
Ezzard Charles
Harold Johnson
Archie Moore
Bob Foster
Michael Spinks
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Roy Jones jr
Bernard Hopkins
Thomas Hearns
gunpowdergreg......."Muhammad(lost to all top flight and many not".............really?
He beat;
John Conteh (2) lightheavy world championship
Marvin Johnson (2)
Yaqui Lopez (2)
Vonzell Johnson
Ritchie Kates
Murray Southerland
Something tells me you have no idea who these men were!
NABF defences 4
WBC world defenses 9 times!
Saad was a tough fight for anyone in the world in his time. He had a lot of bad luck with mismanagement and when he was beyond his prime he continued on because he had to.
Most times the toughest part of this business is on the outside of the ring.
Ray
Only reason Hearns was there is because he wasn't at his best once he went past 160. Fight could probably go either way but I would give Ward the edge at 175.
I got Ward destroying Hearns at 175 & 168.
Thomas Hearns shouldnt be on your list man.
Either way, Ward is competitive with all of those guys. Im not sure I would outright favor him against any of them though.
You know what... Id favor him over Hops at LHW because Hops only got there towards the end of his 'prime', Ward would be able to tire him out IMHO.
Only reason Hearns was there is because he wasn't at his best once he went past 160. Fight could probably go either way but I would give Ward the edge at 175.
The rest of that list were ATGs who were the best of the best at LHW. Beating Kovalev (clean or dirty) doesn't qualify.
Thomas Hearns shouldnt be on your list man.
Either way, Ward is competitive with all of those guys. Im not sure I would outright favor him against any of them though.
You know what... Id favor him over Hops at LHW because Hops only got there towards the end of his 'prime', Ward would be able to tire him out IMHO.
Now that he's legitimately proven his critics wrong and defeated arguably the best (and most feared) 175 lb fighter right now how well do you think he would do against these past HOF/ATG fighters?
Ezzard Charles
Harold Johnson
Archie Moore
Bob Foster
Michael Spinks
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Roy Jones jr
Bernard Hopkins
Thomas Hearns
Great question, made me look up Harold Johnson; man did this dude fight some greats. Ward would lose to all but Hearns(power/chin issues at 175), Saad Muhammad(lost to all top flight and many not), not sure about Johnson. He would have paid dearly if he had fouled Moore, Charles or Qawi. Qawi was a bad, bad man. RJJ would have played Captain Hook. Spinks is similar but wins due to reach. As someone else said Hopkins would have drove Wards balls up his throat. As much talent as he has, Ward doesn't have real power at 175 other than Kovalez he has no real KO's at LHW, excuse me TKO Paul Smith. Ward has a real reach problem at 175, 71" even RJJ has more reach. Even Michael Moore would have gave him problems at 175 78" reach. If you don't have reach at 175 you have to have real power. Ward is a IBHOF lock and at 168 a GOAT. Ward probably doesn't have much competition at LHW or even Cruiser today but your list is too much and too great at 175.
The rest of that list were ATGs who were the best of the best at LHW. Beating Kovalev (clean or dirty) doesn't qualify.
Ward's resume is stacking up. How stacked were those ATG's resume? The best match ups are Ward vs. Jones Jr. & Hopkins.
I think he would have a chance to beat Hopkins and Hearns because they weren't natural light heavyweights. They were middleweights. He might beat Saad because he wasn't that skillful. I think everybody else on your list would beat him.
Just like he wont beat kovalev right? SMH
The rest of that list were ATGs who were the best of the best at LHW. Beating Kovalev (clean or dirty) doesn't qualify.
Only ones he beats is Hearns and possibly Hopkins in what would be the ugliest foul-filled fight of all time. Hearns only because he wasn't at his best at LHW.
Just like he wont beat kovalev right? SMH
Now that he's legitimately proven his critics wrong and defeated arguably the best (and most feared) 175 lb fighter right now how well do you think he would do against these past HOF/ATG fighters?
Ezzard Charles
Harold Johnson
Archie Moore
Bob Foster
Michael Spinks
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Roy Jones jr
Bernard Hopkins
Thomas Hearns
He would do very well & beat those guys but I don't know about Roy & Bernard. Those are the dream match ups. Ward is on that level.
Yes. He survived Barkley in a loss and defeated Virgil Hill who was a better all around boxer than Kov. He had more power than Ward, so I think he gets to Kovalev in the mid to late rounds so long as he doesn't get careless.
Only ones he beats is Hearns and possibly Hopkins in what would be the ugliest foul-filled fight of all time. Hearns only because he wasn't at his best at LHW.
Do you think Hearns @175 could take a Kovalev right hand?
Only ones he beats is Hearns and possibly Hopkins in what would be the ugliest foul-filled fight of all time. Hearns only because he wasn't at his best at LHW.