MMA isn't nearly as big as it should have been. Back in 2007/2008, the sport was littered with "stars" like Chuck Liddell, Rampage, Wanderlei, Forrest Griffin, Anderson Silva, GSP, BJ Penn and more.
Then you had a real crazy peak around 2010 when Brock Lesnar was the Heavyweight Champion.
Yet here we are in 2017 and what do they really have other than Conor ? Ronda is done, Bones stays high on crack and steroids and Silva is finished as a headliner. Why do you think they're desperate to bring GSP back ?
10 years ago there was talk of MMA one day being able to challenge the NFL and World Soccer, but in 2017, they're struggling to even get past the MLS in popularity let alone take on heavy hitter sports leagues.
There is an underlying reason as to why this has happened. In general, society has become more pussified. All the LGBT **** and general liberal ethos mean that people have less inclinations towards aggression and violence. In order to attract casuals to sports like Football, look at how many rules they now have about contact and personal fouls, etc.
Why do you think physical defense isn't even allowed in the NBA anymore ? In the 80's crowds used to cheer the violence and the Bad Boy Pistons. Now if you so much as graze LeBron's jersey you get tech'd the **** up.
In that same vein, a lot of potential fans just can't take all the blood and overt/in your face violence of MMA. In Boxing, you have big shots landing and cuts do happen, but it does seem as though the number of visceral injuries in MMA is significantly higher.
That, and also the fact that a lot of people just aren't into grown men spending significant amounts of time pushing against each other on a cage or dry humping each other on the ground.
MMA's growth in 2017 is nowhere near where we thought it would be back in 2008.
I feel MMA is a sport of many forms of combat but you won't see a "master" of one. In other words, these guys train to be OK at every aspect but don't generally master a single one.
This is why I see Conner being humiliated by Floyd. Conner may have done "boxing" well in MMA compared to the rest in MMA, but his "well" in MMA is amateurish for pro boxing. Honestly, the only factor I see between them two is the age. If Jr. seriously looks like an old man and Conner just bum rushes him and catches him with some miracle blow.
First of all, Joe Rogan is a 5'7" midget (being generous with that height by the way), who at nearly 50 years of age still smokes up and tries to act like one of the cool kids, while taking loads of steroids.
He would get balled up and stuffed into a trashcan by even several members of this site.
he's right to a degree. guys like daniel jacobs and andre ward are not nearly as popular as the names you listed
He's also wrong to a degree because this was before Mayweather and Pacquaio were global superstars.
"The stars that Boxing has now the De La Hoya's, the Hopkins, the Jermain Taylors once they retire there will be no more."
he's right to a degree. guys like daniel jacobs and andre ward are not nearly as popular as the names you listed
Is boxing a limited form of fighting? Why does dibella seem like such a sour grape here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtKx41UdCj0
You would have had to be around at the time if you weren't. The MMA were more annoying than Shannon Briggs.
I only say all that to say that this is a sport thats in flux still. They just altered the rules this years to make the sport more fan friendly once again & something they have strived to do during there entire existence. And thats only going to lead to a future date where MMA is without dispute the biggest combat sport in the world because its the closest thing one can come to testing ones survivability against their fellow man (or woman) outside of a real live fight. And ultimately people wanna see that & some braver people wanna test their ability in that environment.
That's just dumb. You sound like an early era MMA cliche. Nobody cares about any of that, they care about characters and in-ring entertainment. Boxing is the more entertaining sport in a lot of peoples opinion.
MMA and boxing are on the same level when it comes to popularity, especially with the UFC having a down year and now resorting to staging a boxing match to save their ass.
2008 wants their video back.
Joe rogan needs a life altering beating.
Good luck with that I would love to see a pro-boxer walk up to him and give him this "beating".....
Instead we would see that boxer get choked the **** out.
On pen and paper, it may be "limited" as compared to MMA, however Boxing takes singular aspects of unarmed combat and amplifies what is required.
The MMA argument is that you can use your entire body to inflict damage on your opponent and have to be prepared to also defend yourself accordingly.
What I say, is that UFC/organized MMA actually doesn't achieve this.
The reason is that overall fight times are shorter (25 total minutes as opposed to 36 minutes in Boxing), the general technique level of these fighters is horrid for the most part and finally, that disengaging is routinely done as a part of MMA.
No matter how much rest you get between rounds, 12 rounds of 3 minutes each will kill you without extreme conditioning. For people who have actually Boxed competitively, each round progressively gets worse and worse. When you're in the Championship Rounds, you're literally a dead man walking unless you're in excellent condition.
In Boxing, you can't run. You can't disengage. The ring being a square means that you'll get cornered sooner or later and will have to fight your way out. If you clinch, you're generally broken up after a few seconds. Excessive holding gets points taken away, so once again you're forced to fight. This is a key point.
In MMA matches, how many times have you seen "wall and stall" and "lay and pray" tactics ? These guys in general have bad conditioning and the rules are such that you can easily "disengage". You can also repeatedly literally turn your back and run as the size of the Octagon means cornering your opponent is very difficult.
In a perfect world, Thunderdome style deathmatch, yes, you can make the argument that MMA is the best fighting style to have.
I will remind you that most people who comment have never been in a street fight. People bite. They claw, they eye gouge and most certainly go for a guy's balls. Try putting someone in a triangle choke and they're using their free hand to try and tear your balls off. Not easy.
This is not even counting the fact that the guy who wins a street fight is the guy who shows up with a gun or a big ass machete.
Boxing, "limited" as it may be, has a much greater degree of difficulty than MMA just given the rules and what is required for a fighter to fight 12 rounds.
Are you from the past? Whats with this old sh^t?
But obviously boxing is a limited form of combat sports. Every combat sport is, hence the usage of the term "sport" in the wording. MMA just happens to be the least limited form of combat sports.
I brought it up because we've had about 8 years to see how things panned out. I think MMA is big, but boxing is on the up and up
I remember this video. It really made Joe Rogan look idiotic. I didn't know who he was before this. I really thought he was mental after watching this.