Spence can be outboxed

Well, Spence might be taller than Thurman but he dosen't seem to know how to use his reach advantage so good. He had the reach advantage against Brook but almost never used it. When you look at a guy like Crawford, he's got the same arm length as Spence, so Spence would basically be only stronger/heavier, but Crawford would be faster/more technical.He didn't need his reach against Brook, because he kept moving forward against Spence. The few times Brook tried to create distance though he got clocked with a lead right hook from Spence. Thurman would probably try to keep his distance more against Spence, but with Spence being bigger it would become a big problem. Thurman would have to go in big circles around Spence and thus burning more energy and thus getting even more bothered by Spence's body punches. I don't see Thurman reaching the 12th round against Spence. If he did then he's tough as nails. Crawford has the craftiness advantage, but I just think Spence has too much power for him. He's already a weight class above him and he also has the height advantage. A fight with Spence doesn't make too much sense for him. Porter could be a very annoying fight for Spence however, but I have this feeling that Spence would destroy him.

Spence would basically be only stronger/heavier, but Crawford would be faster/more technical. Sometime being bigger and heavier wins over faster and technical. Look at Chavez Jr, he is worthless as a fighter but because of his weigh advantage early on, he was winning fights against fighter who should have dismantled him. Now Spence is no Chavez jr (thank God) but just looking at this through another prism.

The real problem is that Spence stands taller than almost all of the other welters in addition to his overwhelming power and relentless style. So Thurman would have to deal with a big difference in reach and height as well as all the other stuff. Crawford is not doing much better in that department either and he would be coming from a lower weightclass too. Honestly the way I see it, Brook was going to be Spence's biggest problem and he overcame him in strong fashion. So the WW division is up for grabs for Spence. That #Strapseason thing he keeps mentioning is not a joke. Well, Spence might be taller than Thurman but he dosen't seem to know how to use his reach advantage so good. He had the reach advantage against Brook but almost never used it. When you look at a guy like Crawford, he's got the same arm length as Spence, so Spence would basically be only stronger/heavier, but Crawford would be faster/more technical.

Tbh I can see Danny Garcia betting spence and im the biggest Danny hater.

3 styles i want to see Spence in with Thurman, Porter and Khan.... Porter might be a harder test than them all

The real problem is that Spence stands taller than almost all of the other welters in addition to his overwhelming power and relentless style. So Thurman would have to deal with a big difference in reach and height as well as all the other stuff. Crawford is not doing much better in that department either and he would be coming from a lower weightclass too. Honestly the way I see it, Brook was going to be Spence's biggest problem and he overcame him in strong fashion. So the WW division is up for grabs for Spence. That #Strapseason thing he keeps mentioning is not a joke.

I don't mean it to be critical of Spence, because I don't think that many people exist at the moment who could pull it off. It's just acknowledging that he has some chinks in the armor but so what...who can make him pay for having them? I agree, he is far from complete but time and maturity will fix probably fix that if he stays dedicated. I remember Andre Ward first few fights and he was flawed just like Spence but time and proper dedication fixed all that. Spence has DOG in him (just like Ward) and you have to HURT Spence consistently to keep him off of you. Now Spence has little to zero head movement and I hate that. He blocks with his gloves (which isn't bad but he can mix up his defense diversity).

Mayweather, Pacquiao & Cotto will as well. at the elite level, who wouldn't but the question is can they win? The 3 i just mention probably would win due to experience but at this level no boxing match should be a short night. Short night are between garbage man and cab driver type fighters. I don't mean it to be critical of Spence, because I don't think that many people exist at the moment who could pull it off. It's just acknowledging that he has some chinks in the armor but so what...who can make him pay for having them?

Bradley, Thurman and even Peterson and Garcia give Spence a long night. Mayweather, Pacquiao & Cotto will as well. at the elite level, who wouldn't but the question is can they win? The 3 i just mention probably would win due to experience but at this level no boxing match should be a short night. Short night are between garbage man and cab driver type fighters.

Good Luck trying to run away from Spence Jr for 12 Rounds :nonono: If you can't get physical on the inside with him I think Spence Jr DESTROYS that Back Foot style which explain why he gave even Mayweather HELL during sparing. I see why now! He doesn't have fancy feet but he has quick feet and knows how the cut the ring off. Not only that but Body Shots take away Legs! Like Kell Brook, yeah you might get a good early start but eventually the body shots break you down and slow you down then you are forced to fight him inside where he is at his BEST! We shall see but I personally think his biggest challenge would come from someone who can do what he does and that would be like a Erikson Lubin. I can see that being huge fight years from now at 154! That is looking to far ahead, Lubin haven't had his step up/championship fight yet but I do think he will be the next to break out!

Bradley, Thurman and even Peterson and Garcia give Spence a long night.

I truly believe that Keith Thurman has what it takes to beat Spence. They are both large welters with power, diff is that Thurman can box and has the movement to frustrate Spence. It will be a good fight when it goes down.

I agree with the fact that Brook did much better when he was the one going forward. I've seen Spence box and move well but his footwork was sloppier than I've seen it. I said last week that for Brook to win he cannot back off Spence. He did and he got destroyed.

I don't think Spence will be that easy to outbox, sure by a bigger longer guy that moves around and keeps Spence out of range. That is a problem for anyone though, if that guy is up to and committed to that task. If Spence can get in range he is problematic for guy because he seems to understand how to work out of the clinch, he understands the forearm shove and create space, while being able to shorten up his shots good. Plus he is a strong cat so most guys are not going to just be able to hold him down especially at 147. Plus you have to be willing to really go after a boxer, a lot of boxer punchers end up in a boxing contest with a pure boxer but Spence seems to have that mindset that if boxing isn't working he isn't going down with a sinking ship.

Yep I could see someone that is more technical, more solid and more intelligent outboxing him, turning him and basically sticking a jab in his face. But that person better be ready for that body pressure for 12 rounds.

He showed a clear weakness on the backfoot. Brook won his clearest rounds and for the most part neutralized spence coming forward, and spence when he got the chance to come forward was when he was doing his damage, it was 50/50 in that regard and the fight was there for the man with the better gameplan. Spence was landing bodyshots from the get-go though. I agree with the fact that Brook did much better when he was the one going forward. I've seen Spence box and move well but his footwork was sloppier than I've seen it.

I'm pretty confident Crawford would beat him. Thurman will look great early, but he has such a bad habit of giving away rounds late and Spence's style appears to be his worst case scenario.

:lol1::lol1::lol1: Everybody is an expert. Even sofa-surfing couch jockeys. I get it, you like Spence. No problem with that. I like Spence to. The difference between you and me is that I won't let my bias towards him distract from the fact that there are tools that can be sharpened. Imagine we both knew Spence personally. My critiquing of him would NEVER be the reason he gets beat. However, constantly sucking him off to the point where he doesn't take the sport as serious as he should could result in a loss. Look at Adrien Broner... I never said I was an expert. However, I have eyes and I'm entitled to my opinion like everyone else. If you disagree that's fine, but writing me off as some know-it-all couch potato for having an opinion makes you seem like a fanboy.

Thurman can outbox Spence, but Keith doesn't like it to the body so I could see him wilting down the stretch. Crawford might be the only guy who has the right combination to beat Errol outright. But as you say we have to see how he looks at 147 first. I agree completely.

Not sure Spence would fight every opponent the same way. He fought Brook the way he needed to. This right here ^^^^^^ should close this thread. You don't give Mayweather, Charlo & Broner all they can handle in the gym if you aren't at the very least special. Spence took away Brook left hook but Brook kept timing his jab & hitting him with the occasional uppercut so after i think the 6th round when Spence had that tripping incident, he adjusted and change nearly his entire game plan. Thurman hasn't knocked out anybody since he's been fighting elite competition. When you are fighting at the elite level, anybody can have problem. It what you do in these scenarios that shows your grit. Remember Judah outspeeding Mayweather for the first few rounds before he made the adjustment. At the elite level, every fighter has tough times i.e Alvarez/Lara, Golovkin/Jacobs, Ward/Kovalev We've never seen Crawford in any tough moments so we don't know what he does when he finally does..I think Garcia & Khan beats him. Spence stops Thurman via body attack....he hate those (everybody hate it but Thurman reacts badly to them). Spence knows how to cut off the ring so Thurman lateral movement isn't some super game plan. Thurman got a MD with Porter & SD with Garcia...Yes, I assure you, Spence is quite safe from this man right here.