Both big welters with great kabs. Tommy has size advantage but we saw what happened when he went to war with Hagler. I think Spence breaks him down and stops him in the later rounds.
Spence has a good chin and he is great at fighting on the inside. Go back and watch Hearns vs Hagler.
Hagler was a top middleweight dog. Hearns vs Hagler is like Spence would fight GGG...
Fair enough. Be on the look out for that fantasy breakdown. I have a lot of fights to watch.
OK I'll be looking out for this fantasy breakdown. Enjoy the fights. Man you guys are lucky to have youtube nowadays, back then we remembered them by memory.
It's just like the trainers nowadays they can look at the fighters opponents through phones & youtube. The trainers back then only needed to watch 1 rnd of the future opponent & they already knew how to strategically set up the blueprints for the fight plan.
Maybe we should wait until Spence beats all the top WW's before we start saying he'd beat guys like Hearns, Hagler or SRL.
Exactly........and not only that but also wait and see how he does at 154 and 160.
Way too premature for these kind of comparisons.
Maybe we should wait until Spence beats all the top WW's before we start saying he'd beat guys like Hearns, Hagler or SRL.
I understand that Sheldon wants to compare Spence with the likes of Hearns & Leonard for they were welterwgts like him. But please he shouldn't compare him to Hagler when Spence hasn't even fought as a Jr Middlewgt & Hagler was a middlewgt.
Well lets look at this from a welterwgt standpoint. Now i will grant you that Spence does has pop in his punches. He has a lot of KO's almost as similar to Hearns (Hearns in 22 bouts had KO 21 opponents). Lets see how Spence handles Thurman. It's still too soon to measure him against Leonard. In all honesty Spence wins over Bundu, Algeri's & Brook cannot compared to Leonard's wins over Hearns, Duran & Benitez.
But make no mistake about it Spence is one Baaad MoFo!
Fair enough. Be on the look out for that fantasy breakdown. I have a lot of fights to watch.
I was looking at it from a welter vs welter standpoint. Hearns may bad been taller but Spence is stronger plus he hits very hard and is great at cutting off the ring. at 147 Hearns never faced someone like Spence who had the pop and the ability to stalk his prey. You could bring up Ray Leonard but I am a firm believer that styles make fights. Based off the first Duran vs Leonard you could make an argument that Spence would beat him too.
Well lets look at this from a welterwgt standpoint. Now i will grant you that Spence does has pop in his punches. He has a lot of KO's almost as similar to Hearns (Hearns in 22 bouts had KO 21 opponents). Lets see how Spence handles Thurman. It's still too soon to measure him against Leonard. In all honesty Spence wins over Bundu, Algeri's & Brook cannot compared to Leonard's wins over Hearns, Duran & Benitez.
But make no mistake about it Spence is one Baaad MoFo!
So that would put him up at least with Jr Middlewgt (154 lbs). But if you check my chart out I was off by 5 lbs. Which makes him still too small for Hagler. Don't waste your time, Hearns beat him anyway, don't get me wrong Spence is en route to rule the Welterwgt division. If anything like Leonard in the beginning he was too small to fight Hagler (some say that he ducked Hagler, not true he was a welter & hagler a middlewgt). Eventually it took him years to grow into a middlewgt. In other words Spence has to grow into a middlewgt first.
I was looking at it from a welter vs welter standpoint. Hearns may bad been taller but Spence is stronger plus he hits very hard and is great at cutting off the ring. at 147 Hearns never faced someone like Spence who had the pop and the ability to stalk his prey. You could bring up Ray Leonard but I am a firm believer that styles make fights. Based off the first Duran vs Leonard you could make an argument that Spence would beat him too.
Correction, Spence reportedly walks around at 180. That was my mistake. Here, this is what i'm going to do. I'm a go back and watch some more of Hearn's and Spence's fights. Then i'll do a fantasy break down.
Also, and i'll repeat this again, Walk around weight does not mean fighting weight
Correction, Spence reportedly walks around at 180. That was my mistake. Here, this is what i'm going to do. I'm a go back and watch some more of Hearn's and Spence's fights. Then i'll do a fantasy break down.
So that would put him up at least with Jr Middlewgt (154 lbs). But if you check my chart out I was off by 5 lbs. Which makes him still too small for Hagler. Don't waste your time, Hearns beat him anyway, don't get me wrong Spence is en route to rule the Welterwgt division. If anything like Leonard in the beginning he was too small to fight Hagler (some say that he ducked Hagler, not true he was a welter & hagler a middlewgt). Eventually it took him years to grow into a middlewgt. In other words Spence has to grow into a middlewgt first.
Okay you don't understand how professional boxing goes...Let me explain to you, Hagler in his fighting days walked around 185-190 lbs dig it! Better yet this is how it goes;
-Carl Frampton's walk around weight is 145-150 lbs.
-Lomachenko's " " " " 150-155 lbs
-Mikey Garcia " " " " 155-160 lbs
-Crawford " " " " 160-165 lbs
-Kieth Thurman " " " " 170-175 lbs
-Jarrett Hurd " " " " 180-185 lbs
-GGG " " " " 185-190 lbs
-Ward " " " " 195-200 lbs
*WALK AROUND WEIGHT DOES NOT MEAN FIGHTING WGT
Correction, Spence reportedly walks around at 180. That was my mistake. Here, this is what i'm going to do. I'm a go back and watch some more of Hearn's and Spence's fights. Then i'll do a fantasy break down.
Spence is basically a middle weight. He walks around at like 165. Plus, he is a better boxer than Hagler.
Okay you don't understand how professional boxing goes...Let me explain to you, Hagler in his fighting days walked around 185-190 lbs dig it! Better yet this is how it goes;
-Carl Frampton's walk around weight is 145-150 lbs.
-Lomachenko's " " " " 150-155 lbs
-Mikey Garcia " " " " 155-160 lbs
-Crawford " " " " 160-165 lbs
-Kieth Thurman " " " " 170-175 lbs
-Jarrett Hurd " " " " 180-185 lbs
-GGG " " " " 185-190 lbs
-Ward " " " " 195-200 lbs
*WALK AROUND WEIGHT DOES NOT MEAN FIGHTING WGT
*Spence is a Welterwgt (147lbs) there is a reason why he is fighting at that wgt & not at Jr Middlewgt (154 lbs) & or Middlewgt (160 lbs)
But Kell is a lot stronger than Hearns. Hearns was really skinny and that would be at his disadvantage.
Errol Spence today cannot beat a prime Tommy Hearns.
Errol Spence hasn't done enough to show that he can beat a prime Hearns.
Comparisons are way premature. Let's wait until Spence's prime years are over then better comparisons can be made. We haven't seen Spence fight at 154, 160 yet.
As of right now, the Spence of right now does not beat Hearns. Let's evaluate this question later after Spence is no longer in his prime. Then a proper assessment can be made.
Lol, so based on Spence beating Chris Algieri and Kell Brook he beats a prime Tommy Hearns and knocks Hearns out? Lol, SMH
A Prime Hearns vs this Errol Spence would definitely result in a Hearns victory.
Once Spence gets hit by that right hand a few times, he would be out.
Let's wait and see how Spence career unfolds before these kind of comparisons are made. Spence has only beaten Kell Brook.
A better assessment can be made later on in Spence's career. Particularly when his prime is done.
But Kell is a lot stronger than Hearns. Hearns was really skinny and that would be at his disadvantage.
You can't make that comparison because it was at Freaking Middlewgt. Hearns was now facing bigger men at 160 lbs. Do you really think that Spence a 147 lbs can do all this at Middlewg? And since when da' fork, was Spence equivalent to Hagler???
GTFOH!!!
Spence is basically a middle weight. He walks around at like 165. Plus, he is a better boxer than Hagler.