In a BoxingScene article earlier today about the Josh Warrington vs Kiko Martinez fight Frank Warren mentions that Warrington
"...is clearly a grafter outside of the ropes as well, with the incredible drive he puts into his personal ticket sales."
http://www.boxingscene.com/frank-warren-breaks-down-josh-warrington-vs-kiko-martinez--116509#sthash.IAemhYg2.dpuf
WTF?
Why even pay a promoter if you still have to put in work yourself to get butts in the seats?
Heard on an interview with a boxer out of Miami last week that some promoters were not paying boxers anything, they just gave them tickets to sell and that was all.
Listen seats are seats and money is money. Any promoter is going to relish a fighter who could move seats!
I worked for years with the group that ran the Hartford Civic Center in the late 70's through the 80's. I had a heavyweight who could sell 3 bus loads of people from New Haven to Hartford every time he fought. He could move 300 ring side as he moved up to a prelim guy. The other guy moving seats was Marlon Starling as he was coming up in the ranks.
A four rounder moving 100 seats could make three times the standard pay. An 8 round semi who moves 300 ringside could make 5 times the normal payout.
Everyone from Jimmy Mantoya in California to Donny Elbaum in New Jersey appreciated any fighter who could be reliable and professional to move seats.
No need to bow, just listen, ask questions and be honest.
I'm not selling my opinions and don't care if anyone agrees or not but when someone gives their opinion and it's BS I'm saying it's BS!
Ray
"I've never heard of that happening around here"....
My best guess is that your "PHD in the sweet science" is just a note from the second grade teacher.
When a fighter has a "home turf" building he promotes every other month as most do during their first 25 bouts they can earn double and triple the normal pay per rounds by moving 300 to 500 ringside seats.
Now you've learned something on the forum about boxing thats been going on for a 100 years!
You see "you can learn" despite what others have said! :alcoholic
Ray
I always bow to your knowledge on boxing, Ray. And I'm glad to learn something new.
But consider that things on the East Coast might be different than they are out here in the West. And in my defense I have never heard Bob Arum congratulate one of his fighters on how many tickets he was able to go sell himself!
"I've never heard of that happening around here"....
My best guess is that your "PHD in the sweet science" is just a note from the second grade teacher.
When a fighter has a "home turf" building he promotes every other month as most do during their first 25 bouts they can earn double and triple the normal pay per rounds by moving 300 to 500 ringside seats.
Now you've learned something on the forum about boxing thats been going on for a 100 years!
You see "you can learn" despite what others have said! :alcoholic
Ray
I've never heard of that happening around here.
Except for maybe for youth boxing matches but that's just to help the kids cover the costs of equipment and travel.
The Leeds crowd go absolutely crazy during a Warrington 12 round borefest. Baffling indeed.
Its that football mentality though that America doesnt seem to have "no matter what weve got your back"
Don't ALL fighters get tickets to their fights that they can move or give away?
I was under the assumption that big name fighters sold seats for extra cash all the way to the top of the sport.
In the UK they do
It also assures that they have a loud contingent of home fans supporting them
Hes one of the biggest ticket sellers in the UK, baffling, Leeds fans love their 12 round decisions. Think Hearn got shot because he doesnt believe in himself, he'll always sell out Leeds but thats his limit, tried to build the title fight and he didnt want it.
The Leeds crowd go absolutely crazy during a Warrington 12 round borefest. Baffling indeed.
He's definitely one of the more likeable guys in British boxing at the moment. A bit like Hatton but saner and less quotable
Don't ALL fighters get tickets to their fights that they can move or give away?
I was under the assumption that big name fighters sold seats for extra cash all the way to the top of the sport.
Hes one of the biggest ticket sellers in the UK, baffling, Leeds fans love their 12 round decisions. Think Hearn got shot because he doesnt believe in himself, he'll always sell out Leeds but thats his limit, tried to build the title fight and he didnt want it.
The Leeds crowd go absolutely crazy during a Warrington 12 round borefest. Baffling indeed.
You have to admire him. He doesn't have to do it but it's worked a treat. He now has a massive following in Leeds that's similar to the old Hatton MEN shows.
Do you want to get on good shows?
Do you want to make more money than the average pay?
Do you want to move up in rounds?
Do you have "drawing power"?
Every promoter wants a fighter he can rely on to be in shape, show up, and if he can hustle ringside seats, he's a dream!
Been like that FOREVER even main event fighters take a block of seats to move. It's part of the business.
Ray
In a BoxingScene article earlier today about the Josh Warrington vs Kiko Martinez fight Frank Warren mentions that Warrington
"...is clearly a grafter outside of the ropes as well, with the incredible drive he puts into his personal ticket sales."
http://www.boxingscene.com/frank-warren-breaks-down-josh-warrington-vs-kiko-martinez--116509#sthash.IAemhYg2.dpuf
WTF?
Why even pay a promoter if you still have to put in work yourself to get butts in the seats?
Hes one of the biggest ticket sellers in the UK, baffling, Leeds fans love their 12 round decisions. Think Hearn got shot because he doesnt believe in himself, he'll always sell out Leeds but thats his limit, tried to build the title fight and he didnt want it.
Been happening all over the world for small shows for as long as I can remember, a lot of times a fighter would be give an amount of money and a hand full of tickets as his purse.