My cousin showed me a video about Shifting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vijD09_O8ek
After watching it, it made me believe that GGG will trap Canelo using these techniques explained in the video. However, I then switched back to Canelo.
But the question is, How does someone adjust in the ring to defeat the fighting style of GGG?
Will shifting affect Canelo?
Thank you
I'm sure if you look back far enough you'll find fighters, trainers and so on explaining pros and I am sure there are some somewhere for every bad tendency it doesn't mean it should be taught or done. It leaves you terribly open probably why you never see any good defensive fighter doing it well ever.
Why is it any different to over-extending? Because of where he is from? Explain the difference. Its over-extending flat-out anyway you want to cut it.
Soviet fighter does it - 'Shifting'
Anybody else does it - 'over-extending'
Turning your back, lifting your right foot off the ground when throwing the right hand they've been done since forever doesn't mean it should be done or taught and I'm sure somewhere some fighter or trainer recommends it. He probably boxed as well at a very high level back in the stone ages.
Merely a video of the odd few times it has worked in a fight without ending in disaster and most of its not even that. Is it really taught in the Soviet system or is that just another assumption people have made as the odd few times its been successfully pulled off were mainly coincidentally by Soviet fighters? All of which were terribly uncoordinated guys like Vitali Klitschko.
You should never switch stances when in punching range its an absolute great way to get KTFO. You shouldn't believe everything you read in books. Go to a gym and try pull it off tell us how it goes.
Here we go again with the 'shifting'. Shifting in boxing is merely transferring your weight from ball to ball. Its not this.
This is just a video made by some hack using incorrect terminology who wants people to think he knows what he is talking about.
Its called over-extending, period & I don't care who or how many great fighters do it. You think they never had flaws? bad tendencies?
When you switch hit there are certain distance where you are taught not to do it.
Its an extremely dangerous technique that leaves you open for every single punch in the book and your momentum will be adding to it. You also run the risk of getting clocked squared up, mid-switch if you will.
As for Pirog doing this he used shoulder feints, stayed low & utilised his switch hitting at the correct distance. Its not what is being taught here which is over-extending in punching range where just about any decent fighter will time you with a left hook, uppercut or take a short step back and crack you with a right hand.
Go watch Carl Froch vs Kessler 1. The Froch vs Groves knockdown. Perfect examples of the dangers of doing this.
No what Froch is doing is over extending and it's dangerous if you leave your chin in the air and head on the center line but that's what you get when you're absent of technique. You being unable to note the difference says something about you but keep living inside your box.
I suppose Jack Dempsey was confused when he classified it as a technique and dedicated space in his boxing manual to teach it.
Here we go again with the 'shifting'. Shifting in boxing is merely transferring your weight from ball to ball. Its not this.
This is just a video made by some hack using incorrect terminology who wants people to think he knows what he is talking about.
Its called over-extending, period & I don't care who or how many great fighters do it. You think they never had flaws? bad tendencies?
When you switch hit there are certain distance where you are taught not to do it.
Its an extremely dangerous technique that leaves you open for every single punch in the book and your momentum will be adding to it. You also run the risk of getting clocked squared up, mid-switch if you will.
As for Pirog doing this he used shoulder feints, stayed low & utilised his switch hitting at the correct distance. Its not what is being taught here which is over-extending in punching range where just about any decent fighter will time you with a left hook, uppercut or take a short step back and crack you with a right hand.
Go watch Carl Froch vs Kessler 1. The Froch vs Groves knockdown. Perfect examples of the dangers of doing this.
You're partially correct. The person who made this video seems to be very familiar with one of the most important figures in Soviet/Russian boxing history (Gradopolov) and how that school of fighting developed. You could say that in that regard, he is more knowledgeable than you.
You can argue about the terminology, but this is one of the key components in the Russian style (which has been proven to be quite effective) that is drilled into young fighters. It is different from simple overextending or what Froch does.
"Shifting is probably a lost art it's a bit rigid. In the modern era we pivot now".....hahahahaha......
It's a bit rigid because you haven't practiced it 10,000 times to begin to have it become "natural"!
When you drop weight off AND pivot your gaining more power because of the weight transfer & pivot motion to bring it !
It is one the biggest transitions from amateur boxing to pro boxing! It is essential to become a quality inside fighter.
Canelo uses it with his body hook and has worked on it for his right hand too. It is easier to pefect to the body because your body target is so much larger and more stationary than the head.
Ray
Here we go again with the 'shifting'. Shifting in boxing is merely transferring your weight from ball to ball. Its not this.
This is just a video made by some hack using incorrect terminology who wants people to think he knows what he is talking about.
Its called over-extending, period & I don't care who or how many great fighters do it. You think they never had flaws? bad tendencies?
When you switch hit there are certain distance where you are taught not to do it.
Its an extremely dangerous technique that leaves you open for every single punch in the book and your momentum will be adding to it. You also run the risk of getting clocked squared up, mid-switch if you will.
As for Pirog doing this he used shoulder feints, stayed low & utilised his switch hitting at the correct distance. Its not what is being taught here which is over-extending in punching range where just about any decent fighter will time you with a left hook, uppercut or take a short step back and crack you with a right hand.
Go watch Carl Froch vs Kessler 1. The Froch vs Groves knockdown. Perfect examples of the dangers of doing this.
the same channel that had Pacquiao winning... :dance::dance:
Mayweather thought he beat Castillo in the first fight, guess we can't trust him either. :dance::dance:
As was said before it is a potentially useful tool, but most tools can be game planned for and countered. An elite fighter will have multiple tools and it's up to his trainer to create a game plan using the appropriate ones. It's up to the fighter to find the right times to utilize them in round.
Tools also have counters and what separates elite level fighters from the others is their ability to adjust in the ring and dictate fights with their tools.
Correct, and there will be two elite fighters in the ring on September 16th.
It will be interesting to see who comes with - and is able to implement - the best game plan, and who can adjust and adapt to what the other guy brings!
Don't fall for the 'magic' the video is trying to cast by pretending it's some lost art or secret technique that will win a fight. It's part of a number of subtle techniques that a boxer uses. If you're looking at "tricks", Canelo has more layers to his game but, again, they're all just tools. At the end of the day, it's the craftsman who makes the product, not the tools.
Well said sir!
As was said before it is a potentially useful tool, but most tools can be game planned for and countered. An elite fighter will have multiple tools and it's up to his trainer to create a game plan using the appropriate ones. It's up to the fighter to find the right times to utilize them in round.
Tools also have counters and what separates elite level fighters from the others is their ability to adjust in the ring and dictate fights with their tools.
And still lost with a 10-8 round.
:sad2:
He schooled him 8-4 stop talking out your behind.
I didn't need this video to score this fight, but maybe it would open the eyes of blind boxing fans who don't know how to score a fight.
It's ok brawski, I understand your mind is clouded by fanboyism. It's a serious illness but you will get through it.
stop projecting, your part of a little clique of mentally ill race baiting fanboys who claim Jacobs won.
Based on........?
exactly :lol1:
I don't see many fighters integrate it seamlessly into their style. I see a lot of guys constantly resetting to orthodox or falling into holds instead of shifting with their momentum. I also see a lot of guys awkwardly switch stances. With a few exceptions, I typically only see Russians who seem well schooled in using it.
in your deluded little mind, yeah.
It's ok brawski, I understand your mind is clouded by fanboyism. It's a serious illness but you will get through it.
Every other technique in boxing can get your face smashed. For some reason, this technique gets downgraded. I think it's because it closes distance and well, what modern boxing fan wants to see an inside fight? That would be too manly.
You dont need to shift to fight inside my friend ,while shifting you can be reseted while switching front leg by Jab or any other punch ,but shifting is great to creat angles indeed.