GGG just isnt the fighter the media and his die hards made him out to be
he is a very good fighter, could be great if he actually takes risks
jacobs deserves a rematch and you same whining crybabies who whined about ward and kov should be upset your hero will swerve his onlu competitive oppponent
come on man....he aint slipping, he was just slightly overrated by some, and crazy overrated by hbo n casuals
Good. I'm glad you don't like him and finally admit it.
Thanks :)
Yea I hate him
In the eyes of idiots
I don't know that dude to care that much about him
Take your skirt off, dude isn't above criticism.... Notice you didn't disagree with my comments about his resume ....bwahahaha
marvin hagler retired before he turned 35.
GGG is clearly no longer in his physical prime. he's also had 350 fights.
still dominating though.
True. He's still dominant and feared in the MW division. When he loses one fight than one can say he's hit the wall. Until then he's the man to beat and so far nobody's been able to do it.
Yea I hate the guy because he hasn't Beat anyone near p4p yet people like you rank him top 3
With a thin resume
Ok
I'm I lying
Good. I'm glad you don't like him and finally admit it.
Thanks :)
Martinez
Cotto
Canelo
All passed. Now when he is 35 and showing slippage after an extensive amatuar career. Winning a medal in the Olympics everyone suddenly wants the fight.
Listen I dont care if you hate GGG; don't become shy when someone calls you out on it.
You don't like him. We get it.
Yea I hate the guy because he hasn't Beat anyone near p4p yet people like you rank him top 3
With a thin resume
Ok
I'm I lying
they ducking doe!!!
stalest excuse on NSB....2012-2017
5 YEARS of excuses for a thin resume
Martinez
Cotto
Canelo
All passed. Now when he is 35 and showing slippage after an extensive amatuar career. Winning a medal in the Olympics everyone suddenly wants the fight.
Listen I dont care if you hate GGG; don't become shy when someone calls you out on it.
You don't like him. We get it.
We don't know if he's slipping or that's his best because he's never fought anyone. He had a chance to show the world how good he was against Ward and we all know he wanted none of it.
people still pretend that ggg ducked ward? this has been debunked so many times. wbc said they were going to order the fight soon and wards contract stated that he would get tune ups first. why would he sign that fight and delay the wbc fight agains cotto/canelo? thats smart how?since when did not agreeing to stupid demands=ducking? because you dont like him is not a good reason. why dont you ever bash ward for wanting 50-50 when he is the clear b-side? why dont you bash ward for wanting tune ups and not offering to fight ggg right away? what b-side makes the a-side wait around to fight? i know you have bigger fights coming up but can you fight me instead and give me everything i want too? OMG WHAT A DUCK HE SAID GO KICK ROCKS. you also forget that when ggg tried to fight ward without tune ups or any nonsense like that ward said no.
it was a publicity stunt and nothing more. used to trick the low information fan or give the fanboy some ammo to use in their fact free arguments. they knew ggg couldnt and wouldnt accept given his wbc status so they used it to up wards profile and bash ggg because ward had ducked him before and was still salty. if ward wanted to fight right away he would not have included the poison pill which was the tune ups.
Thank k2 for wasting his prime on no names then
The blame lies with everyone. Chavez, Froch, Canelo, Martinez, Cott, Eubank, BJS.
All those guys were being pursued at one point or another and most of them had a contract in front of them to sign and chose not to do it ( for sure Eubank, Chavez, BJS).
Got to love boxing.
when you step up competition, you wont be as dominant when you were facing club fighters....common sense
jacobs was his best opponent...more skilled than Lemieux, more athletic, explosive....its clear as day
nothing more or less...dude isnt shot, isnt showing signs of slippage...he had a competitive fight....happens to the best...oh well
Its not common sense because you said he has fought the same level as Jacobs previously! You keep flip-flopping on this.
You come across as a hater because you admitted GGG has fought opponents on Jacobs level before(which he had no trouble) but then say its because he got found out when he stepped up in class. If you cant see the contradiction in you're statements then you really shouldn't be posting...You refuse to acknowledge anyone else's valid points all the while claiming we should listen to you because you're right, that's a hater. I can accept valid criticism of any fighter provided that it is valid.
when you step up competition, you wont be as dominant when you were facing club fighters....common sense
jacobs was his best opponent...more skilled than Lemieux, more athletic, explosive....its clear as day
nothing more or less...dude isnt shot, isnt showing signs of slippage...he had a competitive fight....happens to the best...oh well
thank you for admitting the truth...how will you know how good a fighter is when they fight C level opposition on HBO and PPV?
I COME ACROSS AS A HATER TO THOSE WHO SUCK HIM OFF BUT CRITICIZE OTHER MORE ACCOMPLISHED FIGHTERS RESUME...ENJOY THE PLATE OF CROW...IVE BEEN CONSISTENT ABOUT GGG
you are trying waaaaaaaay to hard
how many top middleweights has he fought.....3...geale was shot and lost to barker prior to losing to GGG and cotto.....Lemmy is good....so is Jacobs
after them his competition is a bunch of C level guys, and a top welterweight
facts=hate to fan boys
You come across as a hater because you admitted GGG has fought opponents on Jacobs level before(which he had no trouble) but then say its because he got found out when he stepped up in class. If you cant see the contradiction in you're statements then you really shouldn't be posting...You refuse to acknowledge anyone else's valid points all the while claiming we should listen to you because you're right, that's a hater. I can accept valid criticism of any fighter provided that it is valid.
I don't even know what you are going on about at this point, but of course its dick measuring when you start throwing out names & who beats who or who doesn't beat who.
No particular guy matters with what I'm talking about. I don't give a f#ck about names or care about any specific matchup or who wins when & if it does happen with what I'm talking about.
The important question for me is: Is this a top ten guy in whatever division he's in? If yes he's a A level or elite guy in that division to me.
Why do you act like you're butthurt then?
Idk what YOU'RE going on about...you can't go by division because fighters jump divisions all the time, that's why I'm speaking of skills and quality of fighter...if golovkin WAS A level at 160, then 168 shouldn't be an issue to beat guys there, but he's avoided it, so that shows his lack of REAL skill and p4p status...whether you agree with p4p or not.
Yea & like I keep saying I'm not dick measuring guys in different weight divisions in the first place. That's silly from the start to me & why I think P4P is the most sci-fi fantasy childish bs serious boxing fans talk about in a serious way.
If a guy moves up or down a division, fair play. But til a guy is in a division & ideally have fought in said division its all a huge bundle of speculation on where or if he should be ranked top whatever-ish or considered A, B or whatever level of fighter for that division.
It's not d1ck measuring at all. The fact that Sanchez has said with his own mouth that golovkin KOs HWs in sparring, I think makes it more than fair to compare a 168 lb Ward (when this conversation about them fighting happened) to a 160 lb golovkin. Ward is a proven A level, while golovkin had not proven sh1t except a list of wins over C level guys.
lil g takes a half step up in competition and is now slipping and too sore to fight more than twice each year. the hype train crashed and exploded. he's looking to cash out with canelo. they even ducked 50 yr old hopkins. HBO couldn't wait to make excuses for him. they already gave up on Chocolatito lol he came and went they dont even hype him no more. lil g bout to be discarded soon too. the last hope is lomachenko. keep him away from mikey.
I actually think he beats Mikey, but win or lose, the difference between buttlovekin and lomachenko is Loma isn't afraid to take a risk, and only wants bigger challenges
Like I keep saying we got a drastically different thought process with this.
You think a guy who's the 5th(?) best guy in a division like Davey is C+ cuz he is far from some Floyd, Manny or any P4P type guy.
And I say whoever is 5th best in a division is a A level guy by virtue of being considered the 5th best guy in a division.
Lol ok, we obviously don't see things the same way. I for instance consider Ward an A level fighter based on his skill, ability to adapt, etc. If you were to see a fight between ward and lemieux, David would not win a single rd.
This is the stuff I have problems with with many reasonable cats on NSB. Its the ain't done sh^t defense that you can basically use on anyone in boxing today cuz resume smashing is an art that's easily attainable by even the dummies of NSB.
And there is levels to the you ain't done sh^t angle that you can use on anyone.
When you first start to fight you legit fight ain't sh^t opponents most of the time.
Then you move up & maybe fight some journeymen ain't sh^t guys.
Then you get into contender status & then those guys ain't sh^t.
Then you win a title, but you won it from some ain't sh^t title holder.
Then you defend it against some ain't sh^t contenders.
No one in boxing is fighting non-ain't sh^t guys when you have this sorta stance about how the sport works. I mean ALL THE GUYS ON TIP TOP like GGG is have fought a bunch of non-ain't sh^t guys to get where they got if we are being reasonable & not emotional cuz of something some dummy said hyping this guy or hating some other guy, but everyone keeps moving the ain't sh^t goal posts further & further up the ladder til there is like one cat who's the only guy who's non-ain't sh^t in a division & sometimes that's even a title that's retroactively taken away if he didn't perform well enough in the fight. Its all kinda f#cking dumb & sh^ts on the accomplishments of the best guys in the sport regardless if you are for or against any particular guy.
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