Obviously :poke:
I have had to listen to BS like this for the past 2 years. If a set of fans ever needed a reality check in my 11 years on here it is the Golovkin fans.
He found his level last night. He is and has always been a B level fighter with A+ power. Last night he fought with his first solid B, B+ fighter and arguably lost.
Nothing wrong with that - Jacobs is a very good fighter, so is Golovkin. But what I have had to listen to and the unrealistic comparisons which have been drawn, I am going to revel in this latest reality check, grab a beer and join me.
I also have a message for the Golovkin fans - STOP the crazy historical comparisons and unrealistic views. Your hero is a good fighter, but you have now seen his competitive level, enjoy the rest of his career like I will with realistic expectations. He is fun, exciting, and great for boxing. But he is NO Hagler, no Monzon, no Hopkins. etc.
Stop comparing ggg to those guys, they have great wins, ggg doesnt...
They had some off nights cuz they fought the best...
reading comprehension please, thats all I'm gonna say.
Agree. The only thing that Jacobs did noteworthy is make it out of the fight without getting knocked out. His "strategy" kept him safe, I'll give him that. He possesses intelligence and poise in the ring but the only thing that "finesse" Dozier was asking for was putting me to sleep not Golovkin. Fight was pretty boring and Jacobs didn't do remotely enough to warrant a win. Sometimes reality hurts.
Jacobs like Clottey thought surviving equaled a victory lol. He just felt happy he survived, thats why he didnt mention anything about a rematch.
And took all the best shots from the second best MW in the division and kept coming foward like they were nothing. A testament to how great Gennady is.
Hagler lost to a damn ww and went 15 with a former bantanweight..what great 160 fighters did he beat??
Hopkins best wins were tito a former ww and oscar a former 130 fighter..who were his best 160 fighters he beat
i know ya'll think im trolling but neither of them nor Monzon beat any great legit 160 fighters..Jacobs is better then any legit 160 fighter any of them ever faced
GGG threw more, landed more, did more damage, got a kd and landed at a higher rate. So what exactly did Jacobs do to earn your nut-swinging?
Agree. The only thing that Jacobs did noteworthy is make it out of the fight without getting knocked out. His "strategy" kept him safe, I'll give him that. He possesses intelligence and poise in the ring but the only thing that "finesse" Dozier was asking for was putting me to sleep not Golovkin. Fight was pretty boring and Jacobs didn't do remotely enough to warrant a win. Sometimes reality hurts.
bit of a foolish question because there is NO elite fighter right now at 160 its a weak division and if your a true boxing fan you will acknowledge jacobs was the true winner last night meaning golovkin is the only 2nd best in a weak division
GGG threw more, landed more, did more damage, got a kd and landed at a higher rate. So what exactly did Jacobs do to earn your nut-swinging?
What is this cheating **** you guys keep throwing out. The 2nd weigh in wasn't commission mandated. Stop trying to make it seem GGG overcame some incredible disadvantage. If anything, he finally fought an above average career middleweight such as himself and was in a close fight that he arguably lost.
We're going to apply the same logic as people have to other close fights. Let's see if GGG gives him a rematch. I think him and his team realize they dodged a bullet and will try to cash out soon. He's not this monster you guys make him out to be and that's fine, he's still a good fighter.
Lol shut up until your brain can process logic. If Jacobs didn't want the belt he should have told GGG so they were on equal grounds. You can close your ears but GGG was fighting against a whole weight class disadvantage and Jacobs was in no way a 'middleweight' that fight. Jacobs is still a dishonest POS for pulling that stunt.doesnt matter anyway. Karma is a *****
You are making it seem like hagler,monzon and some greats didnt have close fights with regular guys. SMH.
Its like some people here got really happy because GGG went 12 rounds. Like that was some kind of lose to him.
I picked ggg to KO in the 6th round. I was dead wrong, but dont make it seem like jacobs was toying with GGG or something near that. They guy got dropped , buzzed, his head was flying back alot of times in the fight, he ate jabs just like the rest of the previous guys ggg fought.
So you(ggg haters) are the ones who need to cut these BS. Have a great day
Stop comparing ggg to those guys, they have great wins, ggg doesnt...
They had some off nights cuz they fought the best...
So who might I ask is elite at 160? What current boxer has a better resume than him at mw right now? I won't hold my breath for an answer.........
bit of a foolish question because there is NO elite fighter right now at 160 its a weak division and if your a true boxing fan you will acknowledge jacobs was the true winner last night meaning golovkin is the only 2nd best in a weak division
couldnt agree more some Golovkin fans needed that reality check he is not this invincible wrecking machine he is not even an elite fighter he has good attributes and is a solid fighter sure but in his first ever real test against a legit fighter whos decent he lost really plus he is 35 years old so there aint much left in the tank anyway
the dark destroyer would have put him in a body bag
So who might I ask is elite at 160? What current boxer has a better resume than him at mw right now? I won't hold my breath for an answer.........
Here's another thing, if he's as good as you guys think he is, break the clinch and work inside. The ref was very slow to break them since he wanted them to work out but guess what... GGG has no inside fighting game. I noticed that as far back as the rosado fight. He can't fight inside or off the back foot. Danny was smothering him and GGG had no answer to create the distance for his offense.
You all are doing them both a disservice by making all these Bs excuses.
Ummm, he threw more, landed more, had a higher connect rate, and had a KO, and all this against a guy who was running away when he wasn't hugging, but you're complaining that GGG didn't waste energy fighting the clinch?
Who's the one coming up with excuses, champ?
couldnt agree more some Golovkin fans needed that reality check he is not this invincible wrecking machine he is not even an elite fighter he has good attributes and is a solid fighter sure but in his first ever real test against a legit fighter whos decent he lost really plus he is 35 years old so there aint much left in the tank anyway
the dark destroyer would have put him in a body bag
So you wanna blame him for not being aggressive enough against a guy who ran away or clinched the whole time?
Here's another thing, if he's as good as you guys think he is, break the clinch and work inside. The ref was very slow to break them since he wanted them to work out but guess what... GGG has no inside fighting game. I noticed that as far back as the rosado fight. He can't fight inside or off the back foot. Danny was smothering him and GGG had no answer to create the distance for his offense.
You all are doing them both a disservice by making all these Bs excuses.
Hmm I wonder what it could be. perhaps because Danny cheated to outweigh him and had height and reach? Still lit up Danny's face. All that weight didn't stop him from spitting blood
What is this cheating **** you guys keep throwing out. The 2nd weigh in wasn't commission mandated. Stop trying to make it seem GGG overcame some incredible disadvantage. If anything, he finally fought an above average career middleweight such as himself and was in a close fight that he arguably lost.
We're going to apply the same logic as people have to other close fights. Let's see if GGG gives him a rematch. I think him and his team realize they dodged a bullet and will try to cash out soon. He's not this monster you guys make him out to be and that's fine, he's still a good fighter.
Alright if we ignore the knockdown, the volume of punches, outweighing ggg or visible damage then yes I agree Jacobs won this one in spectacular fashion for sure!
Jacobs landed more power punches.
Come on dude. I don't know if you are a Golovkin fan - but you sound a bit in denial. Lots of fighters change style from Ams to Pros'. It suits him to be more aggressive because of the punching power he has, its what has got him this far.
Anyway I am pretty sure he split results with Dirrel, and that doesn't surprise me. Dirrel waits too much, he is a counter puncher who doesn't take the initiative.
There is no doubt Golovkin has class, he has pedigree, the jab is superb, good timing, rings smarts, but he is not what a lot of you guys think he is, he never was. The hype has been way over the top, he found his level last night.
I will tell you another thing, I was pretty sure Canelo would tune him up before last night (check my post history) but now I am 90% sure. Different style to Jacobs, but Canelo will light GGG up. Canelo has too many tools for him, he will neutralise his jab.
Dirrell is a a much better fighter than Jacobs and I'm not sure what you are talking about waiting too much because he was countering everytime Golovkin threw. Golovkin fought him by falling into his chest to smother him which is the tactic I would have expected vs Jacobs although obviously not as aggressive, this is the pro's you can't risk that much. Unless you are just thinking about the past it Dirrell vs Degale. Jacobs is still the fighter he was before he fought Golovkin he didn't show anything new, he didn't ascend a level, his power still fades quickly, he still slaps, he still crosses his legs and he still has a weak chin evident by the amount of times Golovkin hurt him. It's pretty plain to see that Golovkin was not fighting to his abilities but rather showing a disciplined demeanor to follow his gameplan, which was horrendous. When your trainer is stressing a guys power all build up and has you come out boxing the taller, longer, and quicker fighter that's pretty evident the trainer is bad.
Golovkin never showed any fire, he let Jacobs off the hook constantly, he never let loose, never threw with full power, his punches carried hesitation and were thus very slow. It was very obvious he fought over cautious(which I attribute to the gameplan) and not to his best abilities.
And I'm not a fan of the guy anymore until he learns to think for himself and wanted Jacobs to win. The sht I saw in there was like some of Robert Garcia's fighters where Garcia ruins their performance by having the much better fighter, much stronger and powerful fighter come out stressing the jab and going to a decision with a fighter he had no business going the distance with. Unfortunately I don't remember the guys name at the moment. Some powerful, eastern euro at welterweight.