If you thought Danny won....

No. Golovkin did not win round 1, I'm sorry. And I did rewatch it again on a non-English broadcast and saw what I saw the first time - body work. Jacobs landed beautiful body shots and his defense was on point. He got hit, but largely by jabs. The effective aggression was Jacobs, not G. The reason they gave it to G was because G was constantly on the move forward and Jacobs was staying away. They punished Jacobs for what they thought was running when in reality, he was more effective with power shots in the round. Same thing happened in round 8. There was one flurry by G; Jacobs slipped every single punch on the ropes, came back and assaulted the body again. Other than that, G was ineffective. They gave it to G because again, Jacobs was on the backfoot most of the round. The judges basically gave G rounds where Jacobs didn't 100% engage despite Jacobs landing the more crisp shots. That's BS. Crisp shots? He didnt commit to a single punch all night. Im moving on. JUDGES GOT IT RIGHT

I rewatched the fight and I was wrong with my first assessment wherein I said Jacobs won. There were 2-3 rounds where Jacobs clearly won. Other rounds were even and the rest were close rounds where GGG had clear or slight edge. I was looking for at least 5 rounds for Jacobs and when it's hard to see it, then you'd rather just forget about it, accept the decision and move on.

This is a very interesting thread, and seeing how people score fights is always entertaining/educational/depressing (*delete as appropriate). I'm sensing that GGG getting the decision is pretty much the right call to have made and that there are no real problems with that. That said, anyone who gives all the first 3 rounds to Jacobs needs to take a good, hard long look at themselves

Anyways, because of the knockdown, Jacobs would have to had won 8 rounds. There is just no way that Golovkin only won 4 rounds and to be honest it's kind of absurd to suggest or claim that. Jacobs could still win the fight with 7 rounds. Knockdown only makes a difference in a 6-6 fight.

Lol 1, 2 and 3? Golovkin was controlling the ring those rounds

Lol what? This is not my exact scorecard but here's how Round 1 10-10 Round 2: 10-9 Jacobs Round 3: 10-9 GGG Round 4: 10-8 GGG so it's a 2 point lead for GGG Round 5 10-9 GGG so 3 point lead Round 6 10-9 Jacobs Round 7 10-9 GGG so 3 point lead still Round 8 10-9 Jacobs 2 point lead Round 9 10-9 Jacobs 1 point lead Round 10 Jacobs even Round 11 Jacobs Jacobs up 1 Round 12 GGG even.. Again not my card just how it could be a draw. So in essence I had it Jacobs winning 6 rounds, GGG 5 and one even and then the extra point for the knockdown makes it even. Cheers for that... I saw the fight live and this was how I had it too, 6 rounds for both.. but I have round 1 for Golovkin because he looked busier.. 114-113 Golovkin..

1.. neither guy did much of anything, ggg appeared to control the fight and win "ring generalship" 2 Jacobs 3 Jacobs 4 ggg.... golovkin starts opening up more, gets the knockdown, using the jab to snap Jacobs head back and neutralize the speed of Danny 5 ggg- again behind the jab 6 ggg- But Danny is doing some good bodywork and seems recovered from the knockdown 7 Danny- brutal bodyshots totally zap ggg, he abandons the jab and just comes forward with high guard and danny is able to get shots off without ggg's jab pounding him 8 Danny- Ggg still with no jab, just wading in behind the high guard 9 ggg- this was a really close round, Danny control most of it until the final 45 seconds when ggg landed some bombs and came alive.. I think ggg stole this round with the late theatrics 10 Jacobs 11 Jacobs 12 ggg One point fight either way.. I think the main factor in the fight was when Jacobs landed those brutal body shots in 6th and 7th that zapped the energy level of ggg... once ggg wasn't active with the jab, Jacobs had a much easier time opening up. First 6 rds ggg was really effective behind the jab but Jacobs landed those body shots and the jab disappeared

2,3,7,8,10,11 Key swing rounds were 1 and 9

Watching last night I had it 115-112 for Jacobs. Watched again this morning and I switched the 2nd in Gennady's favor but still got 114-113 Jacobs. 2,4,5,9 & 12 for Lil g (10-8 in 4th) 1,3,6,7,8,10 & 11 for Danny Always have said you know nothing about boxing, plus your ridiculously biased against GGG, that shows up in every post about him

Well, I subscribe to NSAC's Bob Bennett's way of thinking now that I heard his logic. I used to think like you. http://www.mmafighting.com/2017/3/5/14819476/nevada-commission-director-bob-bennett-reacts-to-questions-about-ufc-209-main-event-scoring Now this was in the context of MMA but the same logic applies in boxing. I saw no 10-10 round last night because in every round, either Jacobs or Golovkin took at least one of the criteria. Yeah so u just give round one to ggg. Danny knowing if he gets caught in round one it could be a very early night. In total fear mode. Judges seldom do 10 10 rounds. True. And i agree,,,, my desciption of "outlanded hurt dropped ect" doesnt guarantee a defeat. I have a problem with the injustice of that, inherently imperfect/flawed scoring system. You are right it does happen. Again ward is a great example. He did not lose that fight within the bounds of the scoring system. But as a whole, he lost the actual 36 minute fight. You could help it by having dominant rounds scored 10 8, and dominant rounds with a knockdown scored 10 7. And Actually using 10 10 rounds. Rounds you score a knockdown but otherwise lose 9 8.. all of this is possible but never happens. But then again they really need to scrap the whole system

1,3,6,7,10,11 I was a few deep when I watched it last night, but having rewatched it today I've changed my mind. I think it's hard to give the decision to Danny. But he did great IMO.

I'll bite. Round 1: G did NOTHING this round. Nothing. Jacobs didn't do much but he did more. Round 3: Jacobs was more effective with his jab this round. Round 6,7,8: This is the sprint where Jacobs bumped the aggression, started throwing combinations. Round 10 and 11: Jacobs backed off and started outboxing G. This is where G started to get frustrated. 115-112 Jacobs. The two rounds I question on the judges' scorecards are rounds 1 and 8. G did NOTHING both rounds. They gave it to him because he was coming forward while ignoring that he was getting tagged on the way in. Thx yeah i guess u can make a case giving danny all the close rounds and round 1 which was a classic 10 10 round imo. If jacobs got a decision in a fight where he was outlanded dropped and hurt multiple times i may have been done being a semi hard core boxing fan though. A parralel and scoring similarity , to ward kovalev, with kov and ggg having 2 great rounds where they dropped or hurt their opponent, but ward looked really good and convincingly won 4 or more rounds. I didnt see that in this fight. Maybe 2 rounds where im saying danny looked good and definitley controlled and won the round. A caveat: Take that uppercut and following flurry out of round 9, and im fine with a draw

All 3 judges as well as BoxingScene livescorecard gave 1, 8 and 9 to Golovkin. boxingscene had the 1st 3 rounds for Jacobs

You asked for something, people gave it to you, then you whined that they gave it to you. You sound biased as ****. You are reading this out of context... do u enjoy getting mad? Be mad at the words on the internet!!!!!! I was questioning his certainty, not his opinion, when all 3 judges had it 29 28 ggg after three and because ggg significantly oulanded him the first 3 rounds combined...

What do you mean "it was" 3 0? "You thought" ? The official judges didnt score it that way and jacobs landed less than ten punches in thr first two rounds combined.... You asked for something, people gave it to you, then you whined that they gave it to you. You sound biased as ****.

I just dont understand how people gave the 1st to Jacobs. he lost the first half of the fight

danny lost the fight, its just true i cant see a way to give him the win

Overall Punch Stats Round 1: Jacobs (8/26) 30.8%, GGG (9/32) 28.1% Round 2: Jacobs (6/29) 20.7%, GGG (10/27) 37% Round 3: Jacobs (12/44) 27.3%, GGG (14/41) 34.1% Round 4: Jacobs (11/27) 40.7%, GGG (33/71) 46.5% Round 5: Jacobs (14/33) 42.4%, GGG (22/54) 40.7% Round 6: Jacobs (14/41) 34.1%, GGG (14/41) 34.1% Round 7: Jacobs (18/49) 36.7%, GGG (13/42) 31% Round 8: Jacobs (18/58) 31%, GGG (20/59) 33.9% Round 9: Jacobs (16/47) 34%, GGG (23/64) 35.9% Round 10: Jacobs (24/65) 36.9%, GGG (22/59) 37.3% Round 11: Jacobs (19/60) 31.7%, GGG (20/58) 34.5% Round 12: Jacobs (15/62) 24.2%, GGG (31/67) 46.3% So out of the 12 rounds, GGG landed more punches than Jacobs in 9 of the 12 rounds or 75% of the rounds. GGG landed more punches than Jacobs in rounds: 1,2,3,4,5,8,9,11,12 Out of the 12 rounds, GGG landed at a higher % than Jacobs in 8 of the 12 rounds or 67% of the rounds. GGG landed at a higher % than Jacobs in rounds: 2,3,4,8,9,10,11,12 So GGG landed more punces than Jacobs and at a higher % than Jacobs in rounds: 2,3,4,8,9 These are all rounds that trfcdan86 gave to Jacobs. Ugh.....dunno but I'm not buying it. GGG won this fight across the board. It was "close" but clearly the correct man won the fight, especially when you throw in the KD as well. This is pretty revealing. A lot of people like to dispute or disregard the punch stats. If people want to disregard jabs and look at power shots, they are crazy(to make a better case for danny) . He was hurt three times and would have most likely been knocked down or out in the 9th had the uppercut connected 30 sec earlier . The effective power shots were all ggg. Gggs jabs hurt danny more than any punch danny hit him with. Hbo was selling a rematch and many believed their bs. Ggg didnt need any of the last 4 rounds in truth.

I didn't write mine down (unless you count the sticky thread) but I did keep an open mind and at the end, had no doubt Jacobs took it. I even told my friend about it before the decision was read because it seemed pretty obvious. Wasn't like a Ward/Kovalev were I have one guy winning but it was close enough that I could see it going the other way in some people's eyes. And, FWIW, I gave the 1st round to Golovkin.

Not sure how I feel about your use of a 10-10 round in the 1st. I think if you look closely at that round, there is a clear winner by way of ringmanship and punch output? I had GGG edging that round, maybe only by a couple of jabs, and certainly close, but 10-10 should be rare and is a copout. 10-10 in this case just means that you don't know enough about boxing to be able to score Here are the scoring directives from NYAC: "In each round, such judges shall observe (1) clean hitting, (2) effective aggressiveness, (3) defense, and (4) ring generalship... "(1) Round ends, no clear winner 10-10 (Rare); (2) Close round/Winning of the round by effective boxing – 10-9, etc. etc." Right, I know nothing about boxing just like professional judges who score 10-10 rounds.. Straw man. I said, "10-10 in this case just means that you don't know enough about boxing to be able to score" Applying the directives given, there is a clear victor of the first round. And it ain't Jacobs... If you have a problem with the directions given to judges on how to score, that's a different issue, and I would agree with you if you were to say that the judging system as a whole is not perfect. Certainly, that is true. Following the procedure for scoring, as directed, however, I cannot understand how anybody could give Jacobs the 1st round or call it a 10-10 (as you have). GGG landed one or 2 more jabs, and was in control of the positioning within the ring for the most part. As I say, punch output and ringmanship (as directed for the judges to score on) make GGG the clear winner of the 1st round. Calling it 10-10 is wrong, in my opinion. You clearly know something about boxing. I'd ask you, how can you justify calling the 1st round a 10-10 when one of the boxers has landed more punches than the other and has shown superior ringmanship? According to the directives, you have to give to GGG??