All my points, not only does Jacobs lose. He gets KOd.

lol considering jacobs was up 4-1 in the pirog fight, you can pretty much assume he's not losing by points. It couldn't be the same fight that Emanuel Stewart was commentating because he seemed to think Jacobs was losing.

I'm not talking about points. The reality is this. It's one thing when you're totally down on the cards and then get knocked out. That's a blowout. Mayweather/Hatton comes to mind. But it's another thing when you're literally getting outboxed round to round and then manage to knock your opponent out. Wilder/Szpilka comes to mind. The perception of the fans is not the knockout. It's the fact you were getting outboxed for some reason. Why do you think so many people on NSB think Wilder gets sparked by top heavys and don't really care about his KO ratio? It's because against B level fighters he's getting outboxed. Here's another example. Pacquiao/Marquez. Nobody believes Manny truly beat Dinamita because he was getting outboxed in three of the four fights and got knocked out in the fourth one - after getting dropped and half outboxed. The focus is the knockout only because of so many rounds passing where Manny was getting outboxed. Summary: It's all about how bad you lose, not the loss itself. Khan's KO was brutal and expected. Brook got helped by his corner, but the only thing on people's mind isn't the stoppage, it's situations like this that nobody saw coming - even G: https://media.giphy.com/media/dZqnu4iD8gr3W/giphy-downsized-large.gif Ok, thanks, I appreciate the reply, so I can further understand where you're coming from. What you're saying makes some sense. However, with regards to Khan and Brook, and how well they were doing against Canelo and GGG, respectively, I'm afraid that I cannot bring myself to look past the fact that they both got merk'd. The argument as to who was "outboxing" who... it's a moot point, to my mind. The answer is right there on BoxRec for all to see: Canelo KO6 Khan GGG TKO5 Brook I don't think you're giving enough credit to either Canelo or GGG if you stick by your story that they were being "outboxed". Khan would've taken a 100ft ring if it was allowed, he was dancing; Canelo bided his time, trusted his power, and did the business. Brook is a different story, of course. GGG made it into a streetfight, did not show Brook respect and got up in his face, but again, GGG showed faith in the gameplan and got the job done. I cannot envisage that the results of these fights would be any different if there were rematches. Indeed, those results were expected, considering the differences in weight class. Now, if your argument hinges on the idea that Canelo and GGG somehow struggled fighting against smaller men, I can have some sympathy with that. Except, they patently didn't. Both fights were over before the halfway point, and emphatically so. It seems that you are unwilling to give credit where credit is due, as if both those stoppages were just instances of extreme good fortune. What would they have needed to do for you to appreciate their work, I wonder?? I take my hat off to Khan and Brook for jumping up the weight classes (we need more of that), and I acknowledge that Canelo and GGG did what they were supposed to do. You say they didn't look great. I say, look at the results of those fights and tell me that wouldn't happen 100 times out of 100.

Maybe if you two actually looked at the article, you'd see that the judges scores were plain as day. There's no bias bros - the judges had Brook hanging with G and outboxing him up until the KO. I did look at the article. Tbf, you have a point - if the judges had 'em up, then in some twisted sense, yes they were outboxing their opponents. However, I take "outboxing" to include the subtleties of laying traps and luring opponents in... or do you think both those KOs were accidents? I'm not saying points don't matter period. I'm saying POINTS DON'T MATTER IF YOU GET KNOCKED THE F*CK OUT. Points only mean something if you can make to the end of the goddamn fight. Therefore, Brook and Khan were not outboxing their opponents because the way that they were boxing evidently led to Khan being slept and Brook being hospitalised. Such a sh*t argument. "Oh well, you know, imagine an alternate universe where Khan and Brook didn't get taken out, they might've won!! They were boxing better, after all, look at the judge's cards!! It says so right there, they were winning!!!!"

You're also not a judge and are challenged at scoring easy fights like that one Looking who is talking. You got it wrong too. At least I had the right winner.

eyyy mon!!! did you that eastern euro knock out that jamaican bruvva the other day? that's what will happen to andrea in da rematch ya blood clot. He wasn't KOed. He just said f*ck it, I got paid. I am done with Arum's bullsh*t. Name some boxers from Jamaica, Queens.

I am not American. So I guess our scorecards were international :lol1:. :lol1: :biggthump

I don't get all the hype for Jacobs being a live dog in this fight to be honest. I like the guy and he is a decent fighter, but GGG is pretty damn good at cutting the ring and walking guys down. Jacobs just won't get time to counter enough IMO and his jab is not enough to check GGG.

I am not American. So I guess our scorecards were international :lol1:. You're also not a judge and are challenged at scoring easy fights like that one

lol considering jacobs was up 4-1 in the pirog fight, you can pretty much assume he's not losing by points. Man, Pirog was near of finish Jacobs in fu.cking round 2

Bruh that **** literally made me laugh so hard I bit my tongue. What a moron. You're a moron wards rounds were all narrow and 5 rounds is still a L still got outlanded , still got outworked and y'all know this.

Yeah but Ward 115-112.eyyy mon!!! did you that eastern euro knock out that jamaican bruvva the other day? that's what will happen to andrea in da rematch ya blood clot.

Confirmed bet There you good bud. You got it. Confirmation. Lock it I, dial it up. Write a document. Send me a postcard. Whatever it is we do. Bet on.

"the whole fight" and then names five rounds he didn't. :dunce::lol1: Bruh that **** literally made me laugh so hard I bit my tongue. What a moron.

How brave of you to choose the massive favorite to win by KO. You must be Nostradamus. I didn't say it was a brave pick. I said it was the guaranteed pick. And was seeing if any of the "miracle man Maniacs" had any courage to stand by their man. Um not even asking for Jacobs to win, he just has to survive... Hasn't anyone got any faith in him??? I don't. Admittedly, hence thread.

How brave of you to choose the massive favorite to win by KO. You must be Nostradamus.

I'm hoping for three knockdowns 1 for Danny putting ggg azz on the floor and 2 for ggg the second one ending the fight. I love Danny's story. Here's to a good fight and may the best man win

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/1770927/gennady-golovkin-v-kell-brook-scorecards-show-not-one-judge-had-ggg-winning-when-fight-was-stopped/ As far as Khan, we already knew going in that Canelo would have judges in the pocket. Nobody's saying Khan was damaging Nelo in any way - but period, Khan was outboxing him up three rounds dude. Are you on drugs?? It seems like maybe you have got the REALLY good sh*t, where reality has become but a distant memory

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/1770927/gennady-golovkin-v-kell-brook-scorecards-show-not-one-judge-had-ggg-winning-when-fight-was-stopped/ As far as Khan, we already knew going in that Canelo would have judges in the pocket. Nobody's saying Khan was damaging Nelo in any way - but period, Khan was outboxing him up three rounds dude. Lol what the **** is that website? Hmm..thats not biased. Not to mention the fight was in the UK. Abyone had Brook and Khan winning those fights before stopped should need to register to an offenders site for all of us to look at and be aware of. Those predators shouldn't he lurking around, unknown.

The three murican judges huh I am not American. So I guess our scorecards were international :lol1:.

You are seeing this different from me and the three judges. Just like you I am not too happy with the judges card because Ward 115-112. The three murican judges huh