Where does Mayweather rank realistically on an all time list?

Floyd is about 20th. The guys he's been favouriute against and beat dont have the pedigree to get him higher. They were past prime and not even that great in first place, or smaller. Evedn if they were prime ie dlh, SSM, PAC he would only move up a handful of places, top 15 ranking would be best he could hope for. So he can fight GGG at 160 . that could push Floyd into top 5. He's nothing to lose as he's not expected to win. And no ody consuders Floyd unbeaten anyway

When Leonard was fighting there were 3 belts..there has been more then one title belt for over 40 years Right! Lol. They love harping on **** thay sounds good but ain't true. If it was innocent it would be forgivable but it malicious. I have Floyd at around number 5 ATG. That's talent, skill, and the overall factors. Ali(prior to the "draft dodging")and Leonard were more talented and probably had more heart. Ali was easily the most physically gifted fighter. His speed for his size was unparrelled. And the fact that most of his career milestones came after he lost some of his speed and legs is amazing Itself. These questions really are for fighters of recent history. Still, It's impossible to rank eras of the far past. Anybody who isn't 80 years old-- that says they can completely factor in fighters from 40, 50 60+ years without some kind of second hand biased is full of ****. So when people pull out the jack Johnsons and brown bombers they're just trying to be cute. 1. Robinson 2 The greatest 3. Duran

We can't have it both ways, either its cheating or it is not. Floyd himself claims it is, yet he feels he is above the rules when gaining an edge. He doesn't get a pass, especially when he is the one who started this whole movement of blood testing. Yet, Holyfield, Pacquiao and others do?

Yup, they will be looking at stuff like this and laughing while bringing it down a few notches: - Fights Juan Marquez who never had fought at 140 nor 147 at 144lbs. Marquez had just moved up to fight at 135. Floyd breaks the initial contract by coming in an extra 2lbs instead of draining it off, like most other top boxers would try to do. Floyd pays off Marquez, and the fight goes on! - Floyd and company markets Maidana as this killer KO artist. 24 hours prior to the fight, removes Maidana's preferred gloves and says "No wonder you were KOing people .... You have to fight in these other gloves. My health is more important!!!!!" :lol1: - Hatton was KING at 140, Floyd fought him at.... 147 where Hatton struggled! - Floyd fought prime Martinez, Williams, Pacquiao, Oscar, Mosley, ...... Skipped some, fought the rest when Floyd said this: "Manny's not the same fighter anymore" "My game plan will take into consideration that Mosley is old,.... " There is more, .... but like you said, "going to age ridiculously well" :poke: . Come on man Im concerned with your mental health, do yourself a favor and go and see a specialist, if you lack courage maybe go down the local church confessional first and have a chat through the screen Im sure it will give you great confidence to confront what ever the specialist may tell you, its the road to your freedom do not fear it. Its your only life my good friend you need to enjoy this gift not waste if frivolously getting reamed in here every day, you are better than than a reaming and we believe in you returning to the old happy go lucky ADPO2 not this monster with a bolt sticking out his neck. Its not fun for us watching you lose your soul while being reamed like a smelly crack whore, its truly disheartening for us to watch you suffer like this if you cannot do it for yourself do it for us. Please hear the echoes of wisdom and get some help before you're reduced to a mental wasteland where only seagulls will sht on your remains. We are all pulling for you buddy don't forget that. Good luck .

Floyd's resume is going to age ridiculously well, even if the criticisms are valid. Yup, they will be looking at stuff like this and laughing while bringing it down a few notches: - Fights Juan Marquez who never had fought at 140 nor 147 at 144lbs. Marquez had just moved up to fight at 135. Floyd breaks the initial contract by coming in an extra 2lbs instead of draining it off, like most other top boxers would try to do. Floyd pays off Marquez, and the fight goes on! - Floyd and company markets Maidana as this killer KO artist. 24 hours prior to the fight, removes Maidana's preferred gloves and says "No wonder you were KOing people .... You have to fight in these other gloves. My health is more important!!!!!" :lol1: - Hatton was KING at 140, Floyd fought him at.... 147 where Hatton struggled! - Floyd fought prime Martinez, Williams, Pacquiao, Oscar, Mosley, ...... Skipped some, fought the rest when Floyd said this: "Manny's not the same fighter anymore" "My game plan will take into consideration that Mosley is old,.... " There is more, .... but like you said, "going to age ridiculously well" :poke: .

Man, you are right. I'm sad about one thing. If this was pre-Canelo days, you would be on my side. You know, prior to Floyd demanding that Canelo CW and drain himself down to 152. :sad2: Floyd demanding another CW? Now, CWs are no problem. Draining down to 154? Its cool for RELOADED. RELOADED, what gives? Why the change? All good? RELOADED ..... Makes me said Nope, makes me laugh :lol1: If its not a problem and you think that GGG would not lay a glove on Floyd then why not have him weigh the weight GGG fights at? :lol1: See how dumb your post sounds? Get some help.

LOL you are so desperate I can literally feel your pain in every word, youre a delusional lost soul . The thought of GGG not landing a glove on Floyd is tipping you over the edge, man your obsession with Floyd has ruined your life. that's a hell of a reflection of how your brain works, get some help my friend before its too late. Man, you are right. I'm sad about one thing. If this was pre-Canelo days, you would be on my side. You know, prior to Floyd demanding that Canelo CW and drain himself down to 152. :sad2: Floyd demanding another CW? Now, CWs are no problem. Draining down to 154? Its cool for RELOADED. RELOADED, what gives? Why the change? All good? RELOADED ..... Makes me said Nope, makes me laugh :lol1: If its not a problem and you think that GGG would not lay a glove on Floyd then why not have him weigh the weight GGG fights at? :lol1: See how dumb your post sounds?

Top 25-30.

Floyd's resume is going to age ridiculously well, even if the criticisms are valid. Because his resume is for real he fought and beat a bunch of great fighters in 5 weight classes, not like a paper tiger in GGG who beaten nobody. Floyd had a real quality career and it will most definitely age like good wine as the over all quality has time to be digested in the light of all the failures of others hyped to better than him. Floyd was the real deal and time will acknowledge him universally as one of the greatest to ever live.

top 20 even for haters. shoe in for the top 10. Hes already hated a lot less than around 2006-2008ish, the boards were crazy with mayweather hate and there were a ton of people (not just pac fans) not giving him his due. Atleast these days he gets his due. The longer past his retirement, the more highly he will be rated. If you were on the boxing sites back when lennox lewis was active, you will remember the endless hate on him for being boring, "fighting scared", hugging too much ect. Now hes like a top 3 heavyweight of all time and people were begging for his comeback. That hate switched over to vitali, blah blah hes robotic, ect. Now people miss him too and hate on wladimir, though thats going away. Anyways point is that fighters will get rated more realistically once their career is over and the hate from fans of rival fighters will die down.

Floyd's resume is going to age ridiculously well, even if the criticisms are valid.

Goal posts? GGG has not moved from 160 for a while now. BUT You are not getting it. The goalposts have always moved in Floyd's favor. You just want Floyd to fight against a drained fighter and say, "See, Floyd is TBE" You fell for the marketing BS .... Example: " .... but Juan Marquez is P4P #2" - PLUS Floyd came in over the contracted weight IF Floyd and his fans were interested in Cotto at 160 to get the 160 belts then why not GGG? Oh wait, its because YOU Floyd fans want to move the goalposts!!! :lol1: LOL you are so desperate I can literally feel your pain in every word, youre a delusional lost soul . The thought of GGG not landing a glove on Floyd is tipping you over the edge, man your obsession with Floyd has ruined your life. that's a hell of a reflection of how your brain works, get some help my friend before its too late.

So now the haters admit GGG is no match @ 154? Floyd has to move to 160 and face GGG? Wtf? Move the goal post some more. Look at these haters. Goal posts? GGG has not moved from 160 for a while now. BUT You are not getting it. The goalposts have always moved in Floyd's favor. You just want Floyd to fight against a drained fighter and say, "See, Floyd is TBE" You fell for the marketing BS .... Example: " .... but Juan Marquez is P4P #2" - PLUS Floyd came in over the contracted weight IF Floyd and his fans were interested in Cotto at 160 to get the 160 belts then why not GGG? Oh wait, its because YOU Floyd fans want to move the goalposts!!! :lol1:

Don't matter cos Floyd wouldn't beat Jacobs so it's irrelevant. Clouds not goat so might as well fight ggg at 160. Be underdog It's over Floyd retired. People want to see Floyd vs Conor not GGG. I don't want to see either to be honest.

STFU clown! You have been exposed in the Mayweather hit list thread. As soon as Floyd would win you'd move the goal post again like you always do. Floyd could beat Wlad then you'd move on to the next... you pieces of **** would never be satisfied until Floyd lost. Just do us all a favor and don't post in threads about Mayweather because you're a delusional clown. Lol. Exactly. Moving the post every time. Only happy if he lost. Haters.

20-25 range.

So now the haters admit GGG is no match @ 154? Floyd has to move to 160 and face GGG? Wtf? Move the goal post some more. Look at these haters.

Top 15 easily

Floyd the night he beat Canelo would make GGG look like a frustrated schoolgirl, GGG would not land a glove on him, Floyd was right power with no special effects GGG is really just a plodder with power. Smoke and mirrors..... its all marketing for Floyd and you suckers buy into it. Even Floyd's team called out most of the below: Canelo was relatively green. Had trouble with stamina, low work rate, fights relatively flat footed. Oh yeah, and if his name were Manny, all you would be saying is that Floyd Mayweather beat Canelo because he was drained due to the CW :lol1: BUT as you know, most would agree with you that Canelo had trouble making weight, big time!!!! Floyd beat Drainelo. .

Safe to say 40 year old Floyd would be the favorite in Vegas @ 154 vs GGG if the fight were made today thanks to Jacobs. I guess this now means the haters would not give Floyd credit if he UD ggg.....because "Floyd wasn't the underdog.....derp" Think about that. @ 40 years old - there are no potential reasonable weight class match ups were Floyd would be the underdog or expected to lose. That's how unrealistically Floyd domintated everyone for 20 years. There's no one fighting today that can beat him at 40 years old. Definitely no one the haters would give him the deserved credit for @ 40. PROOF FLOYD IS TBE FOR MOST BOXING HISTORIANS. Or at least top 3. GGG? Why does he need to drain himself down to 154? Can't Floyd just fight GGG at 160 for the belts like you Floyd fans wanted when Cotto moved up and got Martinez's belts? Secondly and more importantly, when was the last time that your hero Floyd took on a truly risky fight where he was not the favorite? That is why you cannot rank Floyd high in my books. The risky fights were there but Floyd either DUCKED them or waited out until the guy was no longer the same fighter ....