Am I the only one not impressed with Boxing at all right now??

7 months later same shyt:burner:

**** is sad for real. Your post got me to thinking about this little piece A.J. Leibling wrote after Moore-Marciano. I think about it a lot honestly, when I feel annoyed at the state of boxing. Check it out, it's worth the read. "I got out my copy of the official program of the fight and began to read the high class feature articles as I munched my sandwich. One reminded me that I had seen the first boxing show held at Yankee Stadium-on May 12, 1923. I had forgotten it was the first show, and even that 1923 was the year the stadium opened. In my true youth the Yankees used to share the Polo Grounds with the Giants, and I had forgotten that, too, because I never cared much about baseball, although, come to think of it, I used to see the Yankees play occasionally in the nineteen-teens, and should have remembered. I remember the boxing show itself very well, though. I happened during my second suspension from college, and I paid five dollars for a high grand-stand seat. The program merely said it had been an "all-star heavyweight bill promoted by Tex Richard for the Hearst Milk Fund," but I found I could still remember every man and every bout on the card. One of the main events was between old Jesse Willard, the former heavyweight champion of the world, who has lost the title to Jack Dempsey in 1919, and a young heavyweight named Floyd Johnson. Willard had been coaxed from retirement because there was such a dearth of heavyweight material that Rickard though he could still get by, but as I remember the old fellow, he couldn't fight a lick. He had a fair left jab and a right-uppercut that a fellow had to walk into to get hurt by, and he was big and soft. Johnson was a mauler worse than Rex Layne, and the old man knocked him out. The other main even, ex aequo, had Luis Angel Firpo opposing a fellow named Jack McAuliffe II, from Detroit, who had only fifteen fights and had never beaten anybody, and had a glass jaw. The two winners, of whose identity there was infinitesimal preliminary doubt, were to fight each other for the right to meet the great Jack Dempsey. Firpo was so crude that Marciano would have been a Fancy Dan by comparison. He could hit with only one hand-the right-he hadn't the faintest idea what to do in close, and he never cared much for that business anyway. He knocked McAuliffe out, of course, and then, in a later elimination bout, stopped poor old Willard. He subsequently became a legend by going one and a half sensational rounds with Dempsey, in a time that is now represented as the golden age in American boxing." I reflected with satisfaction that old Ahab Moore could have whipped all four principals on that card within fifteen rounds, and that while Dempsey may have been a great champion, he had less to beat than Marciano. I felt the satisfaction because it proved the world isn't going backwards, if you can just stay young enough to remember what it was really like when you were really young.

Boxing is doing good. It sounds like you have personal issues. Seek help dude

Its part of growing up bro. We're just not as passionate about this **** as we were in our early 20s.... we see through the bull**** easier and have less patience for being fed lines of nonsense from the sport. **** is sad for real.

You were never a real boxing fan to begin with. You just thought Mayweather was cool.

what you moaning about, we had the best fighting the best last night risking there undefeated records (thurman v garcia) and haye v bellew has got the nation talking over here in uk, despite the circumstances it was an exciting fight. Santa cruz/frampton was a good fight, degale v jack was an excellent match up. Top match ups are being made left right and centre now. I was the first one moaning about things last year but 2017 is looking really good. I agree with you but the problem is they started too late. They milked the fans with all these fraudulent fights and they realized they lost a lot of fans. Now they're trying to make up but a lot aren't coming back. A little too late.

I use to be a huge diehard. Now I'm at the point where if I catch it i catch it. If I don't, oh well. Too much bickering and politics going on. More fighting going on outside of the ring than in the ring. It's turned into a soap opera over the past few years.

Haye v Bellew was a monumental moment for boxing. Agreed that Thurman v Garcia, the 2 top welters on the planet put on a mediocre display.

I watched last nights fight thinking about how badly Tito, DLH, Quartey and Mosley would have beaten these guys. They would have made them look like a bad mandatory challenger. I enjoyed the fight. I just don't think these guys are that good.

2017 has been a teriffic year and more good stuff is up next, boxing just isnt for you anymore I suppose.

One problem with boxing today is boxing fans are SO unforgiving if someone loses, they simply label the fighter a hype job, overrated and a bum that was "exposed". I think that filters back into the game so fighters are so eager to keep their 0 that they either fight poor opposition, or when they fight good opposition they go in not to lose rather than to win...which often makes for an uneventful careful fight.

I was one of the people saying 2016 was truly damaging boxing but I feel I've had to eat my words in 2017. Looking like a great year. I understand that Garcia and Thurman aren't elite though, they're just Americans in the glamour division.

To be honest most of the people not really feeling boxing right now was not real boxing fans to begin with. Possible reasons 1. Mayweather Fans - they were soley Mayweather fans and know that hes goin they have no interest. 2. Pacquiao Fans - they were soley Pacquaio fans and now that the train is derailed they have no interest. 3. May Vs Pac fans - they soley hung around for May Vs Pac and know that they are done they show themselves just to be casuals. Not saying any of these are you, but alot of people were casuals more than anything

The Thurman vs Porter fight was far more entertaining because Porter was more daring and willing to take risks than Garcia.

I like MMA more now as a whole also. Just a better product, BUT they are falling into the same issues as boxing has been. They are starting to avoid the rightful contenders and make money fights. That said Thurman/Garcia was a good one-sided fight though 9 rounds and at least PBC finally matched up two of their top guys. I wouldn't say they represent the best of the sport the way Ward/Kovalev did. I still get excited for GGG fights too, and he's got a good one coming. The heavyweight division is better. There's still Crawford, some of the lighter guys like Frampton/Santa Cruz, etc. Boxing has a lot more going for it in 2017 already than it did for most of 2016 that's for sure. aside from Porter/Thurman and Love/Ward 2016 was a disaster and the least I cared about boxing in years.

... ease up, guys ... ... there a lots of stupid people in the world ... ... (and not much can be done for them) ...

The welterweight division will have one ruler soon, the divisions around need to start building guys. Crawford and Andrade needs to step it up.

I wonder if any division is in better shape right now than it was a decade ago. I'm sure one or two are, but as a whole they have to be much worse across the board. heavyweight division is 100x better than it was in 07, thats the only one i can think of

Actually the quality of boxing on professional level is at an all time low in my opinion. When you have fighters like Keith Thurman, Danny Garcia and Kell Brook at the top of welterweight division you know it's bad. Garcia was never at the top of the division, hes just a guy with a resume from 140. Brook clearly has talent also, just not fought anyone but Porter. These are good fighters, not sugar ray leonards or pacquiaos, definitely closer to mayweather with the emphasis on defense and single shots but the fighting has only started. Brook-Spence winner vs Thurman will breed a legitimate elite that can hang with anyone.

u not the only one. there is no one around/coming through with the level of talent as a young floyd or pac, most divisions just have b level fighters at the top. the positive of this is we will see more competitive fights because there is no truly elite fighter