And he never even managed to become a "star" in the US lol
It's sad but at 31 he is done. He ocnnected with like 6 shots in that fight and the ref stepped in and triedt o stop the fight...then carried on and then stopped it. It was the worst piece of refereeing I've seen all night.
My point is, Wilder's stamina is done, he doens't let his hands go because he is scared of breaking them and he is too easy to catch.
Any top heavy beats him: Wlad, AJ and Haye. Throw in Fury once he's back and it's probably a toss up between Hughie/Parker/Wilder.
Heck, Ruiz would probably outbox him lol
An argument over whether or not a fighter was staggered smh as if the lsightest stagger means a fight should be stopped.
Anyway, I'm gonna bump this thread if Wilder ever steps up in comp and loses to the first top level heavy he fights (AJ, Wlad, Tyson....heck even Parker whups him).
I dont see how a fighter being staggered (whic he was without a odubt) is enough to simply stop the fight. Its clear the ref was told to stop it at the eraliest sign of the trouble. I'm surprise dhe didnt wave it off after the first kd lol
All of that is besides the point: Wilder has now looked bad against 4 sub par opponents. Seriously bad.
Go look at motor city cobras gif at the end it clearly shows exactly what i posted and thats Washington who casually walks away after the wave off by the ref . Wilder had him hurt but the fight should have continued .....its a title fight .
I was there, don't need the gif. But you're entitled to your opinion.
I agree. He hasn't. But that doesn't mean he's "done". There's a big difference between "unproven" and "done". The title of this thread uses the word "done".:burnup:
He's done because in the last 3 years, he has regressed as a fighter. I can not imagine him betaing any worthy heavyweights. Try readin the first post.
And calling someone who holds the wbc heavyweight crown unproven is a sad, sad look at Wilders career. What a joke he is as a "sportsman".
You keep saying no one is available but AJ and Wlad are done by April 20 something. 22nd isnt it? I cant remember.
the winner is available.
The purse bid is called for in 30 days from yesterday. What happens first that purse bid or April 22nd? They won't have anything set in stone that Wilder is fighting the winner but that is not really down to Wilder because that winner wouldn't want to be tied down like that.
There is no way for them to really put that off further unless Parker become free because Fury's drug situation but that still has to play out.
It is what it is, if and maybes are not going to make this go away, so better to just bite the bullet fight Stiverne and get it over with unless Parker becomes available but he is still going to have to fight Stiverne in his next few fights.
Wilder hasn't had a mandatory in a long time which is part of the reason I am sure in just naming Stiverne the mandatory rather than having him jump through hoops. There is no one available for unification, so there is no one he could say is on the hook for a mandatory so there is no possible unification right now.
I have already said I was not really on board with their decisions because 1) Stiverne has done anything since losing to Wilder and 2) he barely won a round in that fight so if a guy gets dominated they should have to go above and beyond to get a mandatory shot. I am not the WBC though so my opinion on the matter doesn't mean a thing, it is just a fight WIlder has to do to keep the belt. As long as it is done quickly he can get to better fights in the fall which would be the case anyway considering the other guys are fighting in late April and early May anyway so as long as they go quickly it is better than fighting it and only having to end up in the same spot.
I obviously understand the sport better than you do~ so don't run your mouth about things you clearly do not get
You keep saying no one is available but AJ and Wlad are done by April 20 something. 22nd isnt it? I cant remember.
the winner is available.
You either do not watch enough boxing or are purposefully missing the point. Purse bids can be postponed, mandos can be postponed in face of a possible unification.
On top of all that, Stiverne does not even deserve to be a mando, or do you think he does?
Wilder hasn't had a mandatory in a long time which is part of the reason I am sure in just naming Stiverne the mandatory rather than having him jump through hoops. There is no one available for unification, so there is no one he could say is on the hook for a mandatory so there is no possible unification right now.
I have already said I was not really on board with their decisions because 1) Stiverne has done anything since losing to Wilder and 2) he barely won a round in that fight so if a guy gets dominated they should have to go above and beyond to get a mandatory shot. I am not the WBC though so my opinion on the matter doesn't mean a thing, it is just a fight WIlder has to do to keep the belt. As long as it is done quickly he can get to better fights in the fall which would be the case anyway considering the other guys are fighting in late April and early May anyway so as long as they go quickly it is better than fighting it and only having to end up in the same spot.
I obviously understand the sport better than you do~ so don't run your mouth about things you clearly do not get
Gotta give the man a break, he was returning an injury and a layoff. He took a chance and reduced his movement against a bigger stronger fighter. Was the result pretty? No, but he got the job done and won. And that-is the bottom line.
He has not fought a single top heavyweight since winning the title.
Wilder's greatest assets is the fact that his arms are considerably longer than his legs.
Combine this with a short torso and undersized dome (hard to target) he is a genetic beast.
Boxing has never seen this type of fighter before, especially in the HW division.
He changing the game, taking over doe.
I have made a request to the HoF that a special discretionary addendum be made and Deontay is included with immediate effect.
Fvck the haters.
yes, I will start a petition so that Wilders non inclusion in the HOF is discussed in parliament
Gotta give the man a break, he was returning an injury and a layoff. He took a chance and reduced his movement against a bigger stronger fighter. Was the result pretty? No, but he got the job done and won. And that-is the bottom line.
Wilder's greatest assets is the fact that his arms are considerably longer than his legs.
Combine this with a short torso and undersized dome (hard to target) he is a genetic beast.
Boxing has never seen this type of fighter before, especially in the HW division.
He changing the game, taking over doe.
I have made a request to the HoF that a special discretionary addendum be made and Deontay is included with immediate effect.
Fvck the haters.
look at your avi...look at your sig...look at this thread...
I'm gonna ask you for the last time: why do you think Wilders career is comparable to GGGs?
this was your original post:
"Man is stopping everyone he faces yet you slam him??? but suck off GGG amazing"
My response was Wilder hasn ot even come closet o facing the best in his division, whereas GGG has KOd them and will continue to KO them in his next fight.
Your response to that is apparently I'm racist because I think Kovalev won the fight, which 90% of major sports journalists believe so and 70+% of all journalists believe so. I guess they must all be racist too. Heck, the fans in th arena booedt he decision lol
Please, if you do not have any valid reasons based on boxing, refrain from posting in my threads, your little mind undermines my superior threads. Thank you.
They literally ordered negotiations to start today for that fight and a purse bid in 30 days. Parker is tied up and so are Wlad and Joshua until well after the purse bid. They aren't letting him wait around to see what may or may not happen what don't you get about that. I am not really on board with the WBC's decision but it is what it is and since they make the rules Wilder has to do what they order.
Yea he can beat those guys, they have to fight for that to be said maybe he loses or maybe he lays them all out cold. As long as he hangs around he remains a factor and eventually has to be dealt with.
He is as ready is he is going to be I don't think he is changing much, he will either win or lose as he is period~.
You either do not watch enough boxing or are purposefully missing the point. Purse bids can be postponed, mandos can be postponed in face of a possible unification.
On top of all that, Stiverne does not even deserve to be a mando, or do you think he does?
Im trying to decipher this classic piece right here.
So his stamina is done because he is scared of injuring his hand again and because he is easy to catch? What does stamina have to do with any of that?
:crackhead
I didn't articule it well I guess lol
Basically, he doesnt want to throw too many punches because he naturally feels he may break his hands again (latter day Naz is the example I gave). The stamina issues also play a part though,. as he lacks the fitness to continuously throw as many punches as he used to. He used to be a very fast started, now he isnt because he knows fights may go long, even against journeymen. And they have.