I keep seeing Floyd calling out Mcgregor, on Showtime even saying I have to give the fans what they want! you gotta listen tot he fans etc
uh the fans were drooling for that Pacquiao in his prime fight for years and you turned away from it.
Heck even when they wanted to negotiate again you decided you were going on a retirement, and then vacation.
I dont get it, why is he all of a sudden desperate and aggressive and willing to please the fans but when the fans wanted Pacquiao he didnt show this type of eagerness. He would come up with obstacles saying I dont want to work with Arum, I need a drug test, and when they agreed he kept repeating it over and over like they dindt agree.
Dana White actually hates Mayweathers guts, and is more difficult to work with, this is a more difficult situation since he has conor under contract, yet Arum was willing to work with Floyd for years, and Floyd kept saying its Arum huh? you got Dana white here from another sport who is a real obstacle yet you are willing to try your hardest to make this fight with conor but never did the same with Pac for 5 years.
Later ESPN asked him why not rematch Pacquiao to squash the shoulder excuse, instead of fighting McGregor and Floyd replied with its about fighting Smarter not harder.
wtf?
Thats a mighty long post just to say that you cant explain ****.
As expected.
Pac loverboys like you never could tell me why random testing was such a danger to Pac. Clean athletes dont run from tests.
Keep trying though lmao!
Maybe he was standing on principles. Maybe he had a limit to your boy's shenanigans. I mean, he was as much the draw as Floyd was, but i don't expect for a uneducated, Floyd Boy, to grasp that concept.
Why random testing, is a danger, to Manny Pacquaio. Smh. Only Floyd flunkees, who have low reading and comprension, care about stuff like that.
when someone says they will give you something(the fight) if you agree to do something(the testing) and then you agree to do that thing and they change their mind(40 million flat offer no ppv). thats a duck. thats exactly what floyd did which shows he was bluffing the whole time. you cant see that?
since some of you have the intellect of children here is a scenario for you...if your mom says i'll give you 20 bucks if you wash the dishes and you say no ill only wash some of them and she says nope and continuously taunts you and says "wash the dishes, wash the dishes, wash the dishes!" then you say ok fine ill do it and then she says oh sh-it ummm i meant to say ill give you 2 bucks. you wouldn't think that was wrong? you wouldn't think she was full of sh-it? now pretend your mom is floyd. she's right after all!
You ask Manny Pacquaio, why he needed 24 days, or ask your Boy Floyd, why he needed 14 days...personally, I don't give a f**k...because the argument ain't about testing, its about why Floyd ain't push up on Manny Pacquaio, the way he is pushing up on a non boxing dude...and
Kick rocks....I don't feel the need to explain myself any more thorough than what I already have, because ya can't even comprehend or respect what I gave ya....I gave ya dates, facts, figures, etc., and you still sitting here acting like, manny pacquaio, absolutely ducked Floyd Mayweather, and he was sitting at the same table Floyd was...and
I don't have to concede anything bruh, my opinion is mine and unbiased, and I did my homework thoroughly...and yours is yours, albeit with Floyd fanboy logic...
I know all too well a Floyd boy is going fault the pacquaio camp because that is what they do...I don't know who is worse the Floyd boys, or the Hopkins boys, the Hopkins boys, it was always a bigger excuse why he lost...the Floyd boys, its always the other cats fault, even though Floyd loves to crow about how he is his own boss, and you cats regurgitate every word...
Meanwhile, the word on the street, is Floyd is looking, like an absolute sucker, for pushing fighting this MMA dude, when its some thorough young lions, that was begging for a shot for years...
Thats a mighty long post just to say that you cant explain ****.
As expected.
Pac loverboys like you never could tell me why random testing was such a danger to Pac. Clean athletes dont run from tests.
Keep trying though lmao!
Mayweather ducked Pacquiao intentionally for five years. He said it himself:
"I waited until the time was right, when things were on my terms and we were the A side and we could do things our way, we turned that into a $600-million fight"
http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-backs-golden-boys-decision-on-canelo-golovkin--106117
aka..before I get in the ring with this killer, I am going to make sure, I have every conceivable advantage, grossly in my favor....straight like that...lol
$100m+ to compete in your job against someone who doesn't/can't do your job. I'd be chasing it too.
Besides, let's not act like Manny's team desperately wanted that fight either or chased it. All sorts of excuses regarding testing and being scared of needles were thrown around which have since been shown were contradictions anyway. The reason that fight didn't happen sooner is probably the fault of both sides.
Mayweather ducked Pacquiao intentionally for five years. He said it himself:
"I waited until the time was right, when things were on my terms and we were the A side and we could do things our way, we turned that into a $600-million fight"
http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-backs-golden-boys-decision-on-canelo-golovkin--106117
Manny ducked Floyd. This is recorded history and has been confirmed by both sides. Pac fans always blame Floyd, let them wallow in their sadness and delusions. That L on May 2nd will affect them on a personal and emotional level for the rest of their lives.
If you can explain to me why there should be any cutoffs at all, then you would have a case.
But years later and Pacs team (and much less his fan) cant give a reasonable explanation as to why Pac needed a cutoff date.
If YOU cant give me that explanation, you HAVE to concede that Pac didnt want to face Floyd unless he was able to juice.
And of course Floyd said he going back to his original demands. He didnt want ANY cutoffs IN THE FIRST PLACE.
You ask Manny Pacquaio, why he needed 24 days, or ask your Boy Floyd, why he needed 14 days...personally, I don't give a f**k...because the argument ain't about testing, its about why Floyd ain't push up on Manny Pacquaio, the way he is pushing up on a non boxing dude...and
Kick rocks....I don't feel the need to explain myself any more thorough than what I already have, because ya can't even comprehend or respect what I gave ya....I gave ya dates, facts, figures, etc., and you still sitting here acting like, manny pacquaio, absolutely ducked Floyd Mayweather, and he was sitting at the same table Floyd was...and
I don't have to concede anything bruh, my opinion is mine and unbiased, and I did my homework thoroughly...and yours is yours, albeit with Floyd fanboy logic...
I know all too well a Floyd boy is going fault the pacquaio camp because that is what they do...I don't know who is worse the Floyd boys, or the Hopkins boys, the Hopkins boys, it was always a bigger excuse why he lost...the Floyd boys, its always the other cats fault, even though Floyd loves to crow about how he is his own boss, and you cats regurgitate every word...
Meanwhile, the word on the street, is Floyd is looking, like an absolute sucker, for pushing fighting this MMA dude, when its some thorough young lions, that was begging for a shot for years...
this is what it came down to right here bruh....
from Wiki
Both sides agreed to enter into mediation on January 7, 2010, in hopes of coming to an agreement on the blood testing issue. Retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, who successfully resolved a prior dispute between Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, would again act as mediator. Two days later, after hours of negotiating during mediation, Arum declared that the fight was officially off after Mayweather refused to agree to a 24-day cut-off date. Mayweather revealed that he offered a 14-day cut-off date to Team Pacquiao, but it was rejected.
so....
the pacquaio camp, rejected Floyd's 14 days cutoff, and Floyd rejected the pacquaio camp's 24 day cutoff...,Mexican standoff imo, but you Floyd boys just don't want to admit that your boy walked away from the table behind 10 days, but to me, he ain't want the fight that bad...
but then check out what your boy had to say after that...
On February 13, in an exclusive interview with David Mayo of The Grand Rapids Press, Mayweather said, "I gave him a chance, up to 14 days out. But my new terms are all the way up to the fight. They can come get us whenever, all the way up to the fight, random drug test. That's what it is."
Moving the goal posts at its finest. Lol
So you tell me fam, what other fighter had to jump through hoola hoops like this for Floyd? Its obvious this dude had moved the goal posts even further. He ain't want that fight man. Lol
If you can explain to me why there should be any cutoffs at all, then you would have a case.
But years later and Pacs team (and much less his fan) cant give a reasonable explanation as to why Pac needed a cutoff date.
If YOU cant give me that explanation, you HAVE to concede that Pac didnt want to face Floyd unless he was able to juice.
And of course Floyd said he going back to his original demands. He didnt want ANY cutoffs IN THE FIRST PLACE.
The only reason they moved to a 24 day cut off from 30 was because Pacquiao was on video giving blood 24 days before he fought Hatton. Mayweather was willing to meet them halfway and offered a 14 day cut, that shows he wanted the fight. If he didn't he could have stuck to no cut off. Pacquiao ducked, you know it.
lol...pacquaio, could have said, absolutely not, to any type of testing outside of what was standard in 2009 and been justified in doing so. The fact he entertained Floyd's, special Olympic shenanigans, all the way to 24 days, was fair enough in my book....
Pac and Arum had like 20 excuses. It took a random meeting in a basketball court for those two to finally get together.
Amazing how people are spinning this when all that Floyd asked for was testing and it took Manny to get KOed by Marquez for him to ask for testing himself.
The irony
The only reason they moved to a 24 day cut off from 30 was because Pacquiao was on video giving blood 24 days before he fought Hatton. Mayweather was willing to meet them halfway and offered a 14 day cut, that shows he wanted the fight. If he didn't he could have stuck to no cut off. Pacquiao ducked, you know it.
Exactly. Manny got caught in yet another lie and got shamed into it. Embarrassing stuff.
May 2nd, 2015 really smashed some folks' reality, didn't it?
Hilarious.
Many lives were ruined that day. They never really wanted the fight to happen, that much is clear.
24 day cut off? Why any cut off?
Oh right. He was scared of needles. :lol1::lol1::lol1:
May 2nd, 2015 really smashed some folks' reality, didn't it?
Hilarious.
lol....so what did your boy do?
from Wiki
Both sides agreed to enter into mediation on January 7, 2010, in hopes of coming to an agreement on the blood testing issue. Retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, who successfully resolved a prior dispute between Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, would again act as mediator. Two days later, after hours of negotiating during mediation, Arum declared that the fight was officially off after Mayweather refused to agree to a 24-day cut-off date. Mayweather revealed that he offered a 14-day cut-off date to Team Pacquiao, but it was rejected.
I say your boy wasn't chomping at the bit to lace 'em up either
24 day cut off? Why any cut off?
Oh right. He was scared of needles. :lol1::lol1::lol1:
:lol1: Listen to yourself. Pacquiao walked, yet he was the one that wanted the fight? :lol1::lol1::lol1:
lol....so what did your boy do?
from Wiki
Both sides agreed to enter into mediation on January 7, 2010, in hopes of coming to an agreement on the blood testing issue. Retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, who successfully resolved a prior dispute between Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, would again act as mediator. Two days later, after hours of negotiating during mediation, Arum declared that the fight was officially off after Mayweather refused to agree to a 24-day cut-off date. Mayweather revealed that he offered a 14-day cut-off date to Team Pacquiao, but it was rejected.
I say your boy wasn't chomping at the bit to lace 'em up either
you funny...I remember those initial negotiations...
everything was going good until the pacquaio camp insisted on the 10m weight penalty for Floyd, because Floyd had just got finished, welching, Juan Manual Marquez, on the scales in their fight. Marquez already was coming up from lightweight. Floyd looked like a middleweight in there with Marquez, and you Floyd boys give him full credit for that...lol
The truth is, the Olympic style testing demand on Pacquaio, was Floyd's ego diva counter offer to the weight penalty demand on Floyd. Only thing is, the Pacquaio camp had proof on Floyd with the weight shenanigans, the Floyd camp didn't have jack on Pacquaio being a juicer...what's the excuse now my man...
Pacquaio camp walked, and Floyd allowed them with no fuss, no muss, cause they ain't want the fight that bad anyway... Lol
:lol1: Listen to yourself. Pacquiao walked, yet he was the one that wanted the fight? :lol1::lol1::lol1:
If Pac was clean he would have said yes.
He turned down the fight.
What does his turning down the fight over testing mean?
That he was either dirty or knew he would lose.
Which is it?
this is what it came down to right here bruh....
from Wiki
Both sides agreed to enter into mediation on January 7, 2010, in hopes of coming to an agreement on the blood testing issue. Retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, who successfully resolved a prior dispute between Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, would again act as mediator. Two days later, after hours of negotiating during mediation, Arum declared that the fight was officially off after Mayweather refused to agree to a 24-day cut-off date. Mayweather revealed that he offered a 14-day cut-off date to Team Pacquiao, but it was rejected.
so....
the pacquaio camp, rejected Floyd's 14 days cutoff, and Floyd rejected the pacquaio camp's 24 day cutoff...,Mexican standoff imo, but you Floyd boys just don't want to admit that your boy walked away from the table behind 10 days, but to me, he ain't want the fight that bad...
but then check out what your boy had to say after that...
On February 13, in an exclusive interview with David Mayo of The Grand Rapids Press, Mayweather said, "I gave him a chance, up to 14 days out. But my new terms are all the way up to the fight. They can come get us whenever, all the way up to the fight, random drug test. That's what it is."
Moving the goal posts at its finest. Lol
So you tell me fam, what other fighter had to jump through hoola hoops like this for Floyd? Its obvious this dude had moved the goal posts even further. He ain't want that fight man. Lol
Manny was so terrified of additional testing, he insisted on a $10m per lb overweight penalty. Floyd agreed. Tell me who was terrified of the fight.
you funny...I remember those initial negotiations...
everything was going good until the pacquaio camp insisted on the 10m weight penalty for Floyd, because Floyd had just got finished, welching, Juan Manual Marquez, on the scales in their fight. Marquez already was coming up from lightweight. Floyd looked like a middleweight in there with Marquez, and you Floyd boys give him full credit for that...lol
The truth is, the Olympic style testing demand on Pacquaio, was Floyd's ego diva counter offer to the weight penalty demand on Floyd. Only thing is, the Pacquaio camp had proof on Floyd with the weight shenanigans, the Floyd camp didn't have jack on Pacquaio being a juicer...what's the excuse now my man...
Pacquaio camp walked, and Floyd allowed them with no fuss, no muss, cause they ain't want the fight that bad anyway... Lol