Sergio Martinez with good knees vs Cotto

Sergio had good knees when Margarito kicked his ass. Martinez peaked late, and that Margarito probably had loaded wraps. Martinez who fought Pavlik destroys Margarito.

Still butthurt almost three years after the fight took place

I didn't hear any of these excuses before the fight. Ridiculous. Why not read what Roach himself said? He took the fight because they knew Martinez was an "old man" with totally destroyed legs. Everybody knew Martinez's health was an issue BEFORE the fight: "Martinez is coming into the fight with plenty of question marks surrounding his health. His right knee has been operated on after each of his past two outings and the one following his win on April 27, 2013, over Martin Murray in Buenos Aires, Argentina, was very significant." http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sergio-martinez--miguel-cotto-easily-make-weight-for-title-fight-at-msg-210522232.html

Yeah, those versions of Martinez i'd pick to win. AT the time i had no idea his knees were that messed up heading into the fight to be honest.

honestly, cotto's style always gives problems to martinez. he can box well enough, jab well enough. i think he'd hit martinez, who was honestly not as hard to hit as a lot of people make him out to be. still, martinez was durable enough to outlast spurts from chavez and freaking kelly pavlik. he had the power to put iron chinned paul williams into a downward slide and start the end of his career. and of course the big issue would be the speed and length. martinez was about as fast at 154 as anytbody i have seen. at 160 he was a bit older, but FFS the guy was a freaking gifted athlete. what's cotto really going to do? box better than anticipated, hit martinez with some stuff, but martinez is going to come back. late knockout. some fun rounds, but by the end we'd all know who the winner was going to be. now, if these two were the same size and in their primes cotto would knock him out. styles make fights. if he didn't give up half a foot in reach and several inches in height and several natural lbs cotto would be too much for martinez.

Sergio with one good knee beats Cotto but Lord Golovkin beats both on the same night in the same ring, all heil Lord Golovkin the best that ever was and the best that has ever been the current pound for pound no.1.

No, this "good knees" reasoning that some people say about Martinez is a cop-out because Cotto was also a damaged fighter, ex. Margarito fight. It was a battle between two washed-up, shopworn fighters. It's just that one always had the skills and the other was always overrated, that's why Cotto won. Cotto was always the better fighter and he'd beat Martinez 10 out of 10 times, prime or otherwise. it was a battle between a handicapped man and an able bodied man.

The sergio martinez that fought pavlik and williams would have ended Cottos Career. That fight was sad

Sergio's all round speed and power would have been very tough for Cotto to handle. Sergio always had a leaky defence, but he had a good gas tank, he had great reflexes, he was accurate, and he could hit hard. I struggle to see Cotto handling him, despite Cotto probably having the better fundamental boxing skills.

Lol Martinez gets outclassed again. Dude never fought anyone close to the skill of Cotto. But whatever makes his fans feel better. Big slow guys is who Martinez specialized against. Paul Williams and Pavlik would both destroy Cotto. I mean truth to be told Martinez landed 1 punch with Williams and beat him, and Pavlik was a REAL middleweight and would destroy Cotto rather easily, but hey.

I didn't hear any of these excuses before the fight. I don't think anybody knew that Martinez couldn't stand up straight. At the start of the first bell I said to myself WTF...Martinez can't even stand strong.

Some of Cottos punches didn't even land and Sergio was all over the place.

No, this "good knees" reasoning that some people say about Martinez is a cop-out because Cotto was also a damaged fighter, ex. Margarito fight. It was a battle between two washed-up, shopworn fighters. It's just that one always had the skills and the other was always overrated, that's why Cotto won. Cotto was always the better fighter and he'd beat Martinez 10 out of 10 times, prime or otherwise.

That left hook that landed was because Martinez fell for the jab feint. It had everything to do with his inability to box. for sure. and the rigth hand danny green knocked out roy jones landed had everything to do with jones inability to box. it always would have landed. it always would have knocked him out.

I would pick a prime Martinez to beat a prime Cotto. He is a bigger man and he beat some guys I am not sure Cotto could beat. It's close but I'll pick Martinez by a close UD.

i remember martinez wearing those long ass trunks to cover his kneepads and thinking, this is no good.

That left hook that landed was because Martinez fell for the jab feint. It had everything to do with his inability to box.

Lol Martinez gets outclassed again. Dude never fought anyone close to the skill of Cotto. But whatever makes his fans feel better. Big slow guys is who Martinez specialized against.

Probably, but how realistic was that fight back then? IIRC, Cotto was still at 147 when Martinez fought Paul and Kelly.

Cotto breaks his knees again with a left hook to the head.