Dana opened up a can of worms that will destroy ufc, conor mcgregor got a boxing license, he is now protected by the ali act, dana is a promoter president of ufc, he publically offered a deal for a boxing match on tv and said it was a serious offer, he done ****ed up now. Smh
The fertitas were smart selling the company when they did, they knew conor would be the problem. Ufc is screwed either way, if they dont let conor box they will be hit witha lawsuit that will open way for scorned ex ufc fighters to tesify, aka randy couture who said conor will be protected by ali act. Also if they do let conor fight and pay him 25 million it will make ufc fighters protest and demand lions share pay. Ufc is not going to be profitable, fertitas knew it and its why they never liked conor and sold, dana brought conor in, and now conor will open up lots of bad thing for ufc with his defiance and demands. Danas creation is his biggest problem
I heard some UFC guys get paid as low as 2k on TV. Anderson Silva was their biggest star, made +10 title defences and he didn't make more than 8 m as a superstar for years. You see now Conor their biggest star and really doesn' get paid half as much people think. UFC is like a fast food, feeds the employees with minimum wage :D
UFC business model is dependent on the Conor's of the world. Because of the high profit margins of big shows they can afford to put on smaller shows all over the country keeping fans engaged. Without those great profits, shows become fewer, fighters demand more because they're fighting less, talent decreases due to less access.
UFC also fights fighters at a ridiculous rate. Cowboy fought last month and this month. Buddy who beat arlovski fought last month. They're machines for him, Conor will make businessmen out of them, could see splinter organizations
Im not sure Im following you too well but the UFC was fine before McGregor and was growing before McGregor. Only difference now is that they are actually BOOMING with McGregor. Sure he is great for the business but I don't think they really depend on someone like him. Another PPV attraction will come by. There's interest around the world for MMA.
Why did you mention fighters in the UFC fighting more? I don't think that's a negative. You got guys in boxing fighting a tune up who gets taken out in 2 rounds then they don't fight for another 6 months? How much of that has to do with the ridiculous amount of money they're getting paid? Their attitude is probably like "Im paid for now, I don't need to fight again." It also affects the networks because they pay so much for a tune up that they can't afford to have the same fighter or someone else fight. So, I agree that the UFC should keep their fighters hungry. It drives them to fight and perform. Maybe not keep them hungry to the extend that Dana does though...
I'd say f*ck Dana White but at the same time he has made the UFC what it is today and they have a great model unlike boxing...
UFC business model is dependent on the Conor's of the world. Because of the high profit margins of big shows they can afford to put on smaller shows all over the country keeping fans engaged. Without those great profits, shows become fewer, fighters demand more because they're fighting less, talent decreases due to less access.
UFC also fights fighters at a ridiculous rate. Cowboy fought last month and this month. Buddy who beat arlovski fought last month. They're machines for him, Conor will make businessmen out of them, could see splinter organizations
I don't see it being much of a blow to UFC with fighters wanting more cause they have already doubled their budget on fighter purses and mma fighters have no where else to go to get payed like that they aren't pro boxers.
HOWEVER
if floyd goes out there and toys with Connor ( as he should ) then ko's him that will set off a lot causals from mma. Here they are the whole time bashing Floyd and thinking nothing beats mma warriors but their whole reality just got turned upside it's head. Since UFC is made up of mostly casual fans it would send shockwaves thought out that group of people that for years were too dumb to tell the difference between mma striking and boxing, that would put boxing back in the ratings control.
If Conor gets that big money the other fighters will say WHY NOT ME?
I don't get this logic. It actually sounds stupid. Conor is fighting Mayweather, and under boxing rules. How many of these UFC fighters would get to be offered similar fights? No one.
Dana White is irrelevant at this point. He's not the one calling the shots. He used to have some influence when the Fertittas were in charge but right now he's just another employee who could get fired tomorrow. A bit like Bernie Ecclestone at F1 recently. I think he'll have to leave the UFC eventually, probably in like a year.
Dana opened up a can of worms that will destroy ufc, conor mcgregor got a boxing license, he is now protected by the ali act, dana is a promoter president of ufc, he publically offered a deal for a boxing match on tv and said it was a serious offer, he done ****ed up now. Smh
The fertitas were smart selling the company when they did, they knew conor would be the problem. Ufc is screwed either way, if they dont let conor box they will be hit witha lawsuit that will open way for scorned ex ufc fighters to tesify, aka randy couture who said conor will be protected by ali act. Also if they do let conor fight and pay him 25 million it will make ufc fighters protest and demand lions share pay. Ufc is not going to be profitable, fertitas knew it and its why they never liked conor and sold, dana brought conor in, and now conor will open up lots of bad thing for ufc with his defiance and demands. Danas creation is his biggest problem
Hectari how does it exactly get protection under the Ali Act. Please school me brother. Thanks
Why would the new owners spend 4 billion plus to buy the ufc only to let it sink?
did they know this would pop up? When Dana sold them the idea did he know Conor would use the ali act and really pursue Floyd? Dana thought Conor is just copying Floyd and using Floyds name like Dana did with Ronda and Floyd to get headlines.
This is what you call a unforeseen situation
It wasnt supposed to happen chit like this happens and surprises out of nowhere.
The fertitas probably saw it coming but not Dana, the fertitas never liked Conor they knew he was bad news, it was Dana who brought Conor in and hype him up early you can find videos of a young conor hanging with Dana riding around LA in a fancy car.
If Conor gets that big money the other fighters will say WHY NOT ME?
This is why Dana White is really in a tough situation, if he does co promote the fight the other fighters will get jealous and demand more money, cutting into that profit.
UFC cant pay the 300 fighters they have on roster millions a show, they fund everything, they pay for the promotion, the tv production everything, that fox tv deal was only enough to cover certain events.
Do you guys even read? Has nothing to do with stars, it has to do with business and money, once the fertitas sold the company its up in the air, we dont know how passionate the new owners are, from the fighters the new owners dont even interact with them, if the ali act issue comes up and conor gets paid big money all ufc names will demand that pay or else protest, causing issue and profit drops, ufc made profit by paying 100 thousand to show 100kto win, not ten million for headliners.
Yes, we do read. However, not all of us are buying into the scaremongering among those pushing the theory that the Ali Act is going to have significant implications here.
Conor McGregor is a unique athlete in a unique situation - exceptional talents and draws like him pulling in the big bucks, isn't going to lift the floor of earning potential for the rest - at least not with any significance. Yes, there may be a hit to the bottom line of the UFC, but people predicting some kind of doomsday are way off base.
I'm still waiting for the mass buy-up of free agents by Bellator, that was predicted by all sorts of crystal-ball gazers a few years ago. They've been unable to pull a significant name from UFC other than..what..Bendo? And he ain't even that big of a deal.
You can bet your bottom dollar that these potential issues, were looked at and scrutinized by the new ownership group before they forked over billions.
I understand the point that you're making, in that once fighters begin to protest, they will be forced to pay out more - thus reducing their (UFC's) profits - thus the new ownership will grow tired and move on. However, what you fail to realize is that for a lot of these guys, the UFC is their only option. They have more or less a monopoly on the industry. Where would the #4 ranked middleweight in the UFC go if they wanted to be paid more? Bellator really only pays out more to over the hill vets who they can milk for the last drop of value their name has...and beyond that, there isn't a second option in MMA that I'm aware of. They can't make the jump to boxing for the same reason a sprinter can't suddenly become a great distance runner - it's similar but not similar enough to have fluid career options.
Besides, UFC is a brand name - so synonymous with MMA, that I'd wager more than half of the viewing audience doesn't even know the letters MMA or what they stand for. They only know, UFC or "Ultimate Fighting." UFC is a marketing machine. People who buy MMA t-shirts buy UFC shirts more than shirt for individual fighters. People who buy video games buy "UFC" video games - it's not "McGregor Punch Out" or "Rousey MMA" or even "MMA Fight Night."
The simple truth is, people have been predicting the downfall of UFC for years, when Tito Ortiz had his public blow out with Dana White, they thought it was the end - but then UFC just made a reality TV show and created Forrest Griffin to replace him. They thought people who tune out because UFC didn't hire #1 heavyweight, and arguably #1 P4P at the time Fedor Emelianenko - but then UFC just turned WWE wrestler Brock Lesnar into a bigger star than Fedor would have ever dreamed of being. UFC was going to collapse once their women's division became irrelevant when Rousey lost - then she lost twice in a row, and they marched on with a dozen B+ female stars instead of one A+ name. People thought the fact that GSP and Anderson Silva never fought was going to sour fans - but they just created a new star in Jon Jones and everyone more or less forgot about that "dream fight" and GSP quietly retired.
My point is, UFC isn't going anywhere. Sure a couple of the big names can parlay their name recognition to instant boxing pay days - a couple of times, although even that trend will grow tiresome to casual fans very quickly - but for 99% of MMA fighters, the UFC is their only option if they want to make even six figures. And UFC as a company has proven it gets along just fine with or without it's biggest stars...because at the end of the day, the only irreplaceable name in the company are the letters "U-F-C"...beyond that, it's just a handful of recognizable fighters who move the interest needle - but even weak cards sell decently well on PPV, and their viewership on Fox will insure they keep getting that contract renewed, plus my understanding is the sponsorship money they rake in would make boxing promoters weep.
How long does anyone think that fighters in the UFC are going to keep getting their heads busted to the gristle before they start asking and demanding more money.
Do you guys even read? Has nothing to do with stars, it has to do with business and money, once the fertitas sold the company its up in the air, we dont know how passionate the new owners are, from the fighters the new owners dont even interact with them, if the ali act issue comes up and conor gets paid big money all ufc names will demand that pay or else protest, causing issue and profit drops, ufc made profit by paying 100 thousand to show 100kto win, not ten million for headliners.
Why would the new owners spend 4 billion plus to buy the ufc only to let it sink?
The UFC will be fine. A few years ago, people believed that their success or failure hinged on Ronda Rousey - since then, she was overtaken as the sports premier marketable fighter, and has fallen by the wayside. Every fighter is replaceable, and the UFC's marketing machine is already ticking over to create the next superstar of the sport.
While I believe that Dana White's time at the "top" of MMA is coming to an end, he too is just another character in a sport full of characters, and the show will go on without him. People need to remember, this man does not have nearly as much sway as what fans are led to believe - he is a minority owner, and a mouthpiece - not the decision maker. He's like a "General Manager" of WWE Raw or Smackdown - someone who is making money to play a role, but does not represent actual power.
Conor McG is going to make a lot of money, regardless of what he does. As will the UFC.
Do you guys even read? Has nothing to do with stars, it has to do with business and money, once the fertitas sold the company its up in the air, we dont know how passionate the new owners are, from the fighters the new owners dont even interact with them, if the ali act issue comes up and conor gets paid big money all ufc names will demand that pay or else protest, causing issue and profit drops, ufc made profit by paying 100 thousand to show 100kto win, not ten million for headliners.
The UFC will be fine. A few years ago, people believed that their success or failure hinged on Ronda Rousey - since then, she was overtaken as the sports premier marketable fighter, and has fallen by the wayside. Every fighter is replaceable, and the UFC's marketing machine is already ticking over to create the next superstar of the sport.
While I believe that Dana White's time at the "top" of MMA is coming to an end, he too is just another character in a sport full of characters, and the show will go on without him. People need to remember, this man does not have nearly as much sway as what fans are led to believe - he is a minority owner, and a mouthpiece - not the decision maker. He's like a "General Manager" of WWE Raw or Smackdown - someone who is making money to play a role, but does not represent actual power.
Conor McG is going to make a lot of money, regardless of what he does. As will the UFC.
Lots of people are confused on these boards because they are anti-MMA.
I do not follow MMA at all, but one thing is clear - they will be okay with or without McGregor. In fact I think the sport as a whole becomes stronger, more diverse once Dana White forfeits his control.
Will that affect the sport? Nope. The real success by the UFC is simplicity. Ready for it? Here's the real trick.
ONE champion per ONE weight class. Even redneck casuals can understand it (~95% of UFC fanbase).
Boxing has like 4+ "champions" per weight class. It's literally a joke. Like not being funny, it is literally a joke.
UFC will crumble without Dana white, the new owners do not love MMA like the Fertitas or Dana. they just saw it as an investment for profit.
If Conor gets the mayweather fight it will open a can of worms, for years fighters have complained about fighter pay in MMA saying how come boxers make 20 million a fight. there will be no more profit, thats how UFC makes money by paying fighters 50k to show 50k to win, UFC also has to invest millions in promotion and marketing, if fighters start getting paid millions each main event ppv the UFC will not be profitable and the new owners will either fold or sell. Dana will probably jump ship to boxing.
The model UFC has is like WWE its a company,there is no collegiate sport, no amateur rankings, its fighting for fun UFC has their own ranking system, you cant do that in Ali act, ali act says the promoter cannot do those type of things they cannot set number one contender status that is up to the sanctioning bodies.
One Mcgregor gets a hefty payday all the othr fighters will start following him and protested and not fight unless they get paid.
only way MMA survives is if they become a legit sport, meaning UFC doesnt control the rankings, they need a governing body a sanctioning body and must fight other fighters in other orgs.
The Fertitas already knew this might happen when McGregor started believing he was floyd and demanding money and shares so they sold it for the biggest profit, they were smart, they sold for 4 billion and bought UFC years ago for like 1 million bucks
If it hurts Dana that's a good thing. He is a greedy cheapskate who rules his fighters with an iron hand. He refuses to pay them a reasonable amount of money that they deserve for fighting in a very rough sport. They do the fighting and bleeding and White makes most of the money.
so if ufc becomes more like boxing it will be ruined? boxing works great doesn't it?
It will likely fold. The new owners will not invest more and take a loss, they will fold the company. Ufc cant be like boxing because mma has no sanctioning body. Ufc creates their own ranking system, and doesnt co promote with other orgs
The new owners only bought ufc for future profit i doubt they are huge mma fans. And they never thoguht of this possibly happening