He has 4 Months if he will ,its only his foult,he have time to be in shape and redime hisself ,He can make it no excuses ,he fought in 160 as grownman and was 5# the ring MW,beat decent MWs,Canelo was never fought above 155 so having his first fight with former MW champ is not bad at all.
ah and anybody who says its cherypick is a retard and dont know what his talking about this will be competetive Chavez in shape could trade with top 5 LHW Fonfara,he have power and basics to fight anybody from 160-168.
your assessments are very childish and I assume you're young so I'm just going to let this slip
So feud going on for more then 5 years dont deserv to be settled in the ring ,ok... i would said your vision of boxing is childlish and romantic,my is very realistic.Fact that no World title is on the line mean nothing ,they have names bigger then titles,both was holding titles ,Canelo still holds ,it doesnt matter.
skipped what?
Your basic premise is that Canelo v Chavez is a good fight because Duran and Leonard was...completely forgetting that both are all time greats and two of the best fighters on the planet at that time.
None of that can be said about Canelo and Chavez plus this fight isn't even for a world title, so I repeat, what is the relevance beyond making a quick money grab off of gullible "fans"?
Good karma sent!
164.5
thats why
Exactly this!
Only a Canelo fan can ask such an stupidity regarding to this weight.
This little f@g can't make 160 for Golovkin, yet he makes 164.5 (a new weight) for Chavez while draining Chavez to death.
And I thought Gayweather was bad for the sport.
Setting up personal hatered,who is the best in Mexico ,son of legend,or boy from poor family who made it to the top,
Duran was guy steping in the ring with american hero,and he upset him ,it was not about title ,it was personal ,Duran thought Ray is a *****,they had diffrent vision of boxing it was personaltys clash.Ray was treing to prove Duran wrong and he lost ,
Both fights are close,ofc Duran-Leonard is mor importat from history point of viev and how big it was ,still both fights have background and we dont know winner.
your assessments are very childish and I assume you're young so I'm just going to let this slip
skipped what?
Your basic premise is that Canelo v Chavez is a good fight because Duran and Leonard was...completely forgetting that both are all time greats and two of the best fighters on the planet at that time.
None of that can be said about Canelo and Chavez plus this fight isn't even for a world title, so I repeat, what is the relevance beyond making a quick money grab off of gullible "fans"?
Setting up personal hatered,who is the best in Mexico ,son of legend,or boy from poor family who made it to the top,
Duran was guy steping in the ring with american hero,and he upset him ,it was not about title ,it was personal ,Duran thought Ray is a *****,they had diffrent vision of boxing it was personaltys clash.Ray was treing to prove Duran wrong and he lost ,
Both fights are close,ofc Duran-Leonard is mor importat from history point of viev and how big it was ,still both fights have background and we dont know winner.
so you skipped?
skipped what?
Your basic premise is that Canelo v Chavez is a good fight because Duran and Leonard was...completely forgetting that both are all time greats and two of the best fighters on the planet at that time.
None of that can be said about Canelo and Chavez plus this fight isn't even for a world title, so I repeat, what is the relevance beyond making a quick money grab off of gullible "fans"?
of course he was drained. he just had the advantage being 10 + lbs heavier on fight night, which negated the effect of his being drained against lee, and allowed him to have a good 12th against martinez.
http://www.toprank.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/l_98571ca8ccaf1549865a7c75678dd260Chavez-Jr_Martinez-weighin_120914_001a.jpg\
you guys might have some kind of agenda that poisons your brain into thinking the guy with the sucked in stomach, who put on 20 lbs and looked like a different guy in 30 hours, didn't absolutely murder himself to make weight.
me, i'm not psycho, and i call things the way they are.
He was drained ,but he didnt lose with Martinez cuse of it,he fought whole careere being drained ,he lost cuse he was worst,and he beat Lee cuse he was better its simple,and will have weight advantage over Canelo.
So was he drained in Andy Lee fight or Martinez fights yes ,but he was still going strong
of course he was drained. he just had the advantage being 10 + lbs heavier on fight night, which negated the effect of his being drained against lee, and allowed him to have a good 12th against martinez.
http://www.toprank.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/l_98571ca8ccaf1549865a7c75678dd260Chavez-Jr_Martinez-weighin_120914_001a.jpg\
you guys might have some kind of agenda that poisons your brain into thinking the guy with the sucked in stomach, who put on 20 lbs and looked like a different guy in 30 hours, didn't absolutely murder himself to make weight.
me, i'm not psycho, and i call things the way they are.
you don't seem to understand how this works. it's not simply time and discipline that has kept chavez from making wieghts higher than the 164-5 he's likely to miss.
chavez is the size of a LHW or a cuiserweight. he used to gain 20 lbs at MW and walk intot he rhing as a cruiserweight. he took drugs to get down and has been busted for it in the past.
why do people say chavez will be drianed? becaus there is no other way for him to get down to the weight. canelo and gbp, and chavez, all know this.
this fiht is a shameless money grab. canelo and his people want easy money for this one, and look like they're eventually looking to get in there with golovkin. they know canelo doesn't have prospects for other big fights, that his style doesn't lend itself to fighting bigger guys. i think we're starting to see canelo being "cashed out." it will take a few years, but don't expect canelo to fight much longer after he's 30.
So was he drained in Andy Lee fight or Martinez fights yes ,but he was still going strong,he have 4 months ,his right after fight and in training now,will be brutal fight ,55/45 Canelo.
Duran had no buisnes at WW , They are fighting for personal reasons ,for Mexican supriority,and you talk only about Duran vs Leonard ,did you skipped rest of this fights?
smh man, I get you're a big Canelo fan but stop re-writing history.
you don't seem to understand how this works. it's not simply time and discipline that has kept chavez from making wieghts higher than the 164-5 he's likely to miss.
chavez is the size of a LHW or a cuiserweight. he used to gain 20 lbs at MW and walk intot he rhing as a cruiserweight. he took drugs to get down and has been busted for it in the past.
why do people say chavez will be drianed? becaus there is no other way for him to get down to the weight. canelo and gbp, and chavez, all know this.
this fiht is a shameless money grab. canelo and his people want easy money for this one, and look like they're eventually looking to get in there with golovkin. they know canelo doesn't have prospects for other big fights, that his style doesn't lend itself to fighting bigger guys. i think we're starting to see canelo being "cashed out." it will take a few years, but don't expect canelo to fight much longer after he's 30.
Jones-Trinidad and Jones-Hopkins II were a waste of time and not entertaining wars.
Tito-Jones was good show,Hopkins-Jones was nice event not so good fight.
what are you talking about? Duran was the greatest lightweight and p4p top fighter on the planet fighting another top p4p fighter who was the greatest welterweight on the planet. Are you seriously comparing the two? Do you not see the difference between two champions fighting for divisional superiority and two spoiled brats fighting in a non existent weight division?
Duran had no buisnes at WW , They are fighting for personal reasons ,for Mexican supriority,and you talk only about Duran vs Leonard ,did you skipped rest of this fights?
And its not waste of Time ,this feud is going since Canelo wasnt fameous ,its more Then fight its Personal ,Oscar vs Sr and Canelo vs Jr ,and if being smart fan is skiping fan fights cuse if "legacy" its sucks to be one ,boxing ,sports in General are enterteinment ,and it will be enterteining war ,plane and Simple ,did you skiped Jones vs Trinidad or Hopkins 2 ,Duran had no reason to fight in WW with Leonard he have no buisnes in MW but he took Barkley on and it was fun.
what are you talking about? Duran was the greatest lightweight and p4p top fighter on the planet fighting another top p4p fighter who was the greatest welterweight on the planet. Are you seriously comparing the two? Do you not see the difference between two champions fighting for divisional superiority and two spoiled brats fighting in a non existent weight division?