Do u consider these guys bums?

This should tell you all about Glen Johnson: 21 losses, only 2 TKO's. First one was Hopkins, and if you saw the fight it was just a corner stoppage where Johnson was still standing, not that he got KTFO. Second was simply that Johnson was shot to pieces and in his 40s. But looking at the 21 losses, that's kinda deceiving, because what type of journeyman has a resume of top 10 LHW's of his time: Ulrich, Harding, Woods, Jones, Tarver, Green? A lot of his losses are also well known bad decisions. Salido got knocked out when he was a teenager all in the 1990s and the last one in 2000 but he's obviously a completely different fighter than that now and he's not exactly a journeyman in his second half of his career. He's pretty much one of the elites or at least very close to them.

No..you have to look at how they performed against top comp..people with less losses performed far worse True. And factor in how many narrow loss decisions each had on the road. Bhop was the only one who dominated johnson

I consider them warriors who weren't afraid to take risks. They have numerous great wins on their resume and took some Ls from fighting top opposition often. Going into other fighters backyards and playing the B side with the chips stacked against them. Fighters that understand that if you don't get the stoppage, you will walk out of that ring with an L no matter how many rounds you win. Great fighters.

My definition of a bum is who you beat, not who you lost to. Just because a fighter is inconsistent, or had problems in his life and performed below their skill levels doesn't mean he is a bum.

BUM----someone who performs below his skill level. Ali had a "bum" performance against Leon Spinks in their first fight because he trained to bring weight down but not to fight at his best ability. BUM has NOTHING to do with skill level it has to do with your performance!!! Can anyone learn the technical terms in the sport before they use them? Dumb azzes! Ray

Orlando Salido (43-13-4) & Glen Johnson (54-21-2) Combined these guys have 34 losses. Guys with a lot less losses than this are considered bums. Is there a difference? & y? Fyi, i like both guys. I picked these 2 bcuz ive always thought of them as having similar careers. Yeah ut they also beat a lot of good names too and showed themselves to be good if not very good at the world level. A bum has no world level pedigree.

Salido a bum? In fight of the year, hammered Lopez twice and beat Lomachenko. Boxing fans have to be the most demanding and fickle spoilt ****s of any sport. This is why UFC fighters fight whoever whenever, losses don't mean **** with their fans..in boxing lose a few fights, and you're a ****ing has-been.

Orlando Salido (43-13-4) & Glen Johnson (54-21-2) Combined these guys have 34 losses. Guys with a lot less losses than this are considered bums. Is there a difference? & y? Fyi, i like both guys. I picked these 2 bcuz ive always thought of them as having similar careers. Those guys fought mma type matchup schedule.. hence their mma-ish looking record, and hence why these 2 fighters are beloved by fans. They constantly took tough fights.. Fans aren't stupid

A lot of people around here need to realize what an actual bum in boxing is. I mean it's f**king ridiculous sometimes...I see motherf**kers around here calling guys like Brandon Rios, Amir Khan, and James Kirkland bums. Take these 3 for example (and there are countless other examples of guys referred to as "bums" around here who have made it all the way to the top level of the sport and have even headlined their own television cards). These 3 have a combined record of 96-9-1. Reggie Strickland is a true bum. The guy has 276 career losses (yes, you read that correctly). Robin Deakin is a true bum. Deakin finished his professional career with a record of 2-51. 2 wins in 53 fights. Eric Crumble (what a fitting name by the way) is a f**king bum. Crumble didn't win a single professional fight in 33 tries, and got KO'd all 33 times. These are actual bums. So to answer the question, f**k no, the guys listed at the top of the thread are not bums, and it's not even close. Don't forget about your hero in your sig.

No. General rule of thumb, if I know their name, there is no way they are a bum. If you're at a local fair, there is some no name promotion with a ring putting on free show to anyone who's watching, and they introduce a man standing in one corner with a record of 1-16-2...THAT guy is a bum. If you've ever even whiffed a title, you're no bum. Good post, I agree.

No. General rule of thumb, if I know their name, there is no way they are a bum. If you're at a local fair, there is some no name promotion with a ring putting on free show to anyone who's watching, and they introduce a man standing in one corner with a record of 1-16-2...THAT guy is a bum. If you've ever even whiffed a title, you're no bum.

A lot of people around here need to realize what an actual bum in boxing is. I mean it's f**king ridiculous sometimes...I see motherf**kers around here calling guys like Brandon Rios, Amir Khan, and James Kirkland bums. Take these 3 for example (and there are countless other examples of guys referred to as "bums" around here who have made it all the way to the top level of the sport and have even headlined their own television cards). These 3 have a combined record of 96-9-1. Reggie Strickland is a true bum. The guy has 276 career losses (yes, you read that correctly). Robin Deakin is a true bum. Deakin finished his professional career with a record of 2-51. 2 wins in 53 fights. Eric Crumble (what a fitting name by the way) is a f**king bum. Crumble didn't win a single professional fight in 33 tries, and got KO'd all 33 times. These are actual bums. So to answer the question, f**k no, the guys listed at the top of the thread are not bums, and it's not even close.

They are both excellent fighters. They have lots of loses because they fight the best competition and often on the other guy's turf. They have lost some fights they should have won if the fights were scored correctly.

Salido has fought them all and more than half of his losses happened early in his career. He has been either a world champion or a top contender for years. His resume speaks for itself.

Yup, total bums. What about that Sugar Ray Robinson guy? That bum had 19 losses smh. And Sugar beat over 150 cans sometimes 2 a week, must have been great opponents .

Salido has had 5 shots of a world title in the past 3 years and has only won a world title once out of those times, he isn't a bum but he's a running joke the world title fights he gets he clearly does not deserve and his ranking he has as well not deserved. Entertaining fighter not a bum but just a joke type of fighter that is pushed hard into fights he hasn't earned.

Orlando Salido (43-13-4) & Glen Johnson (54-21-2) Combined these guys have 34 losses. Guys with a lot less losses than this are considered bums. Is there a difference? & y? Fyi, i like both guys. I picked these 2 bcuz ive always thought of them as having similar careers. Glen in his day nah but now I consider him a gate keeper type of fighter. Salido I consider a running joke this guy is an embarrassment he isn't a bum but how this guy continues to be rated as highly as he has been... for what damn reason!!?? In his past six fights - He gets gifted the chance to fight Orlando Cruz for a world title and this was after he got schooled by Mikey Garcia but forced Garcia to stop their fight early because Saldio deliberately headbutted and broke Mikeys nose very badly. But anyway First fight - Beats Orlando Cruz for a world title, should never have been a world title he just lost a damn world title why are you giving him another shot at it? Second fight, he then fight Lomachenko for another world title but he can't win the title because he didn't bother his ass to make weight he was well over the limit, he goes onto robbing Lomachenko with similar dirty antics punching on the balls and the corrupt referee and judges in his favour so here comes the counter that's one world title shot he blew Third fight, some Asian guy nothing to say big deal this guy he beat was only for an interim belt not a real belt. Fourth fight Roman Martinez for another world title, he puts on a good fight but loses so... two world title shots he blew Fifth fight Roman Martinez again and yet again he gets gifted another damn world title shot even though he wasn't the champion but what happens... he blows it once again THREE world titles shots fxcked Sixth fight Franciso Vargas whilst both Martinez fights were good Martinez this one is another good one to watch but the problem here is how in fxcks name did he secure another world title shot this time against Vargas which for your information he didn't win again!! FOUR world title shots ruined in the last six fights, 3 shots at a world title in a row that is and he's not been the victor a single one time in those 3 shots!! In short he's a damn joke and he is being given way too many gifts that he quite frankly doesn't deserve at all!

Solid fighters with more heart than skills. They will give most fighters a hard 12 rounds on any given night

No. They beat Lomachenko and Roy Jones Jr respectively.

Lol, yeah, how about Kid Gavilan with 30 loses? Duran 16, Panama AL brown with 22, the HOF is full of those bums... So u think theyre ATG's or comparable to ATG's?