You feel like you have bigger money options. I get it.
Maybe cutting back down to 147 is too difficult now. I understand.
Perhaps you don't want to rush back until you are 100% healed. That's perfectly reasonable.
But if you have no intention of fighting Earl Spence any time soon then just hand over the belt so he can fight for it. Stop making him wait.
He has no problem making 147 for Khan. But for Spence his body is having trouble with the weight.
The writing is on the wall. He isn't going to fight Errol so just drop the belt already.
If you were Spence don't you think you would rather see Brook give up the belt and fight another Bundu-type mando? Why would you want a dangerous Brook and get only 25% of the purse?
Spence just wants Brook to fulfill his mandatory defense.
But if Brook won't fight then Spence will be happy to get a shot at his belt.
If you were Spence don't you think you would rather see Brook give up the belt and fight another Bundu-type mando? Why would you want a dangerous Brook and get only 25% of the purse?
Ummm....I dunno, maybe so that you can fuucking prove yourself? Or maybe so that the other champs no longer have the 'you're a nobody who has fought nobody' excuse for not fighting you?
I mean I could be wrong (obviously not) but one would think that Spence's actions and words so far have made his intentions pretty clear. He wants to fight the best/all the title holders and prove that he is the top welterweight in the division.
Stop projecting yourself onto others. Just because you would want to duck Brook doesn't mean Spence would, in fact, there is literally nothing about Spence's words and actions that suggest that he wants to duck anyone in the division.
The same guy that told Brook to forget about GGG and fight him instead is the guy that is hoping for Brook to vacate instead of fighting him?
GTFO you clown! You totally sucked that out of your ass, I mean, there is literally not even an inch of foundation for that statement. Defaq is wrong with you?
If you were Spence don't you think you would rather see Brook give up the belt and fight another Bundu-type mando? Why would you want a dangerous Brook and get only 25% of the purse?
I agree, Brook should have given up the belt already because he seems, for whatever reason, reluctant to face Spence and seems ab it shaky on facing Khan at 147 too, which is just weird. So why not just move up to 154, announce it and free up that belt. It saves himself a lot of hassle.
They already do that. Thurman was elevated from Interim champ to full champ just like GGG but I dont see thread after thread after thread whining about how Keith didnt "win" the belt........
When you get a vacant title, the logical thing to do is to legitimize it by fighting a strong opponent immediately afterwards. Thurman was a paper champ until he beat Porter, a legit and dangerous opponent. Now he is a legit champion, just like GGG will be if he beats Jacobs.
Thurman will further cement his legitimacy if he beats Garcia in their scheduled unification bout.
Martins was a paper champ and tried to legitimize himself by fighting Joshua in England. It backfired of course coz Joshua has his ass gaping wide open right now.
Joshua will become legit once/if he beats Klitschko. Wilder was supposed to legitimize himself by KTFO Povetkin in Russia, but he was denied the opportunity by the cheating Russian, and therefore remains a paper champ...although Stirvirne was a pretty decent opponent.
Anyway I have provided better insight into the reasoning behind all of this mess.
He complained about GGG fighting for vacated belts and not fighting the champion for one but suddenly he wants Spence to either get one handed to him without fighting for it or fighting some weak level fighter to earn it.
The irony of it.
No he doesn't you clown. That's a pathetic spin attempt.
He's saying that he believes Brook has no intention of fighting Spence, hence he is saying he should drop the belt, not because he wants Spence to get an easy belt, but because he believes that is what is going to happen anyway and therefore it should just happen sooner rather than later.
You're either trying to deflect and spin his words or you just plain suck at reading comprehension. No one wants Spence to fight for a vacant title, everyone wants Brook, just that no one believes that Brook wants it, in fact it's pretty clear that he doesn't. At this point even if he ends up fighting Spence, we all already know it aint because he wanted to but rather he couldn't fight someone to help him 'legitimately' duck Spence (Khan, Pacquiao, Cotto, Canelo,etc etc).
You're assuming the belt would be handed over to Spence on a silver platter like in the Canelo/GGG case. Errol would have to still fight for it with whoever is the next in line, I forgot the name of the guy. The only advantage for Spence, if Kell gives up the belt, is being able to fight a less dangerous opponent. Maybe that's what Spence is hoping for.
The same guy that told Brook to forget about GGG and fight him instead is the guy that is hoping for Brook to vacate instead of fighting him?
GTFO you clown! You totally sucked that out of your ass, I mean, there is literally not even an inch of foundation for that statement. Defaq is wrong with you?
I want Brook to get in the ring with Spence.
But since he won't then I want him to hand over the belt so Spence can fight for it.
The sooner he has a world championship around his waist the sooner he becomes a more attractive option to the other top 147 pounders.
these brits are delusional as fuk.. havent seen a single person say " i dont want spence to fight brook"
we just want brook to stop dicking around and make a choice "king of mandatories"
SPENCE vs BERTO for the IBF world championship is starting to look more and more likely . . .
unless Berto takes the Porter fight.
I think Berto loses both fights, so he probably takes whichever one pays him more money
Yeah kell, give up the belt so we can anoint Spence king of the welters and p4p one of the best already, the Americans are getting impatient here!
I want Brook to get in the ring with Spence.
But since he won't then I want him to hand over the belt so Spence can fight for it.
The sooner he has a world championship around his waist the sooner he becomes a more attractive option to the other top 147 pounders.
The Spence situation is very similar. If Brook would just keep quiet until his injury heals, it wouldnt be such a bad look for him. But the fact that he is actively trying to get the Khan fight doesnt really paint him in the best light, because he is screwing around with Spences career. If he wants the Khan fight, then so be it, but then vacate so the Spence kid can get on with his career. Dont keep him idle just as your backup plan.....
The IBF only allows interim titles in the case of an injury to the sitting champ. Instead of making Spence wait until Brook gets better (or vacates), I wish they would have allowed Spence to go ahead and fight for an interim title. He could have already done that instead of being forced to sit for the past 6 months. We could have had Spence vs Berto for the interim strap, and then Brook has to fight the winner or he gets stripped
Agree with every inch of this, great post man. Green K'd.
bigdramashow this how you keep your integrity, its also the difference between a fan and a cheerleader/fan boy.
Thurman did the same thing. He was elevated from interim champ to full champ in a boardroom yet I have never seen you mention it ever.
Hmmmm, I wonder why that is..........
and for the record, I like Keith and have no issue whatsoever with him being elevated from interim to full champ, same as I have no issue with it happening to GGG. Thats how the rules work. If the champ wont fight you and either vacates or gets stripped, the interim champ gets elevated. Thats how it works......
I explained that in part in my initial response. In addition to that, it's also because not one of his fans ever created a thread and lied about that to my knowledge. I respond to guys like you that conveniently forget that about GGG when slurping him off constantly. So I just point out the facts.
I know how it works. Its cool if you have no problem. Unfortunately, as you are aware, other GGG fans like to over exaggerate things. So I post some factual information to remind them not to do that.
To be honest I never understood anyone criticising GGG or any fighter for winning a vacant belt (WHATEVER THE FASHION) when it was painfully obvious that the guy who previously held the belt did not want to fight them. But like I said this Spence situation is going to and is already exposing guys on both sides.
The Spence situation is very similar. If Brook would just keep quiet until his injury heals, it wouldnt be such a bad look for him. But the fact that he is actively trying to get the Khan fight doesnt really paint him in the best light, because he is screwing around with Spences career. If he wants the Khan fight, then so be it, but then vacate so the Spence kid can get on with his career. Dont keep him idle just as your backup plan.....
The IBF only allows interim titles in the case of an injury to the sitting champ. Instead of making Spence wait until Brook gets better (or vacates), I wish they would have allowed Spence to go ahead and fight for an interim title. He could have already done that instead of being forced to sit for the past 6 months. We could have had Spence vs Berto for the interim strap, and then Brook has to fight the winner or he gets stripped
Thurman did the same thing. He was elevated from interim champ to full champ in a boardroom yet I have never seen you mention it ever.
Hmmmm, I wonder why that is..........
and for the record, I like Keith and have no issue whatsoever with him being elevated from interim to full champ, same as I have no issue with it happening to GGG. Thats how the rules work. If the champ wont fight you and either vacates or gets stripped, the interim champ gets elevated. Thats how it works......
To be honest I never understood anyone criticising GGG or any fighter for winning a vacant belt (WHATEVER THE FASHION) when it was painfully obvious that the guy who previously held the belt did not want to fight them. But like I said this Spence situation is going to and is already exposing guys on both sides.
Thurman did the same thing. He was elevated from interim champ to full champ in a boardroom yet I have never seen you mention it ever.
Hmmmm, I wonder why that is..........
and for the record, I like Keith and have no issue whatsoever with him being elevated from interim to full champ, same as I have no issue with it happening to GGG. Thats how the rules work. If the champ wont fight you and either vacates or gets stripped, the interim champ gets elevated. Thats how it works......
when was he elevated? it wasnt right after floyd retired
plus he officially earned that belt vs porter
I don't know why Spence fans want Spence to pick up a belt in such a lame way.
its not like that at all.. kell is just wasting so much time dicking around