More profitable fight GGG vs Canelo or Chavez vs. Canelo

GGG is more relevant imo Agree. GGG the more valid fight. Chavez the bigger money fight.

You're also counting live gate, when Chavez said his 20% is from PPV. Now I'm confused. Is Chavez Jr getting $6m plus 20% of the backend revenues?

Two Mexicans facing each other will be more lucrative than a Mexican against the guy claiming to be 'Mexican style' or whatever it was they coined that GGG promotion to adhere him to the Mexican fan base. Anybody suggesting otherwise is a dumb ass. Anyone suggesting that appealing to one demographic who happen to come 50 deep to watch a canelo fight is more lucrative then appealing ing to the general public as a whole with ggg is the dumbass.

Hey the NSB accountants are back! Just in time to defend another duck.

You aren't counting expenses and GBP cut. Khan got $6 mil and Canelo $13.5, so about $20 mil in purses. How will this get double the amount for the same numbers in America? :lol1: Golden Boy's cut, if the numbers put out there are true, are 20% after all expenses. Between the beer sponsor for the event and the TV rights in Mexico, to air a fight between the two biggest Mexican stars in boxing, likely brings in $10m (which you can add the live cable airing money on top of). People are drastically underestimating the value of the TV rights for the fight in Mexico, imo.

Cable providers take half the PPV revenue. Why do people think they provide PPV for free? Mexican TV will be what a few mil? Isn't the fight supposed to be in Vegas? He won't walk away with anything close to $15 mil. $20m-$25m cleared off of the US PPV, with the live event putting in another $10m. To that, you can then add $2m+ from whatever other revenue streams before heading to Mexico. $40m ($32m Alvarez/$8m Chavez Jr), before even counting a penny from Mexico, is a pretty good way onto the path for $15m.

Cable providers take half the PPV revenue. Why do people think they provide PPV for free? Mexican TV will be what a few mil? Isn't the fight supposed to be in Vegas? He won't walk away with anything close to $15 mil. Mexico Tv puts it for free but pay BIG BIG money to rights to put it on air.Big events like this like Football matches in my country when 15-17m ppl watch make huge money,in Mexico Canelo--Smith was watched by 18m Chavez-Canelo will cross 20m easy,Companys will kill to put Ads during fight it will do more $ then USA PPV it will be National event not sporting event.

Canelo/Chavez is a big money fight with minimal boxing value. Canelo/Golovkin is a big money fight with serious boxing value. That's the difference. Oscar may be thinking he can do both fights in the same year and rake in huge stacks of money. That's assuming they're going to actually face GGG, which I doubt, but we'll see.

Golovkin has been offered a lot more than Chavez will make. Not necessarily, especially if that 20% of everything also includes the Mexico TV money. 70k people in AT&T Stadium and a PPV that draws even what the Amir Khan fight was said to have drawn (600k-650k PPV buys; $40m-$45m in PPV revenue) and you've got a nice pot already. On top of that, you've got a showdown that will likely capture every TV in the 120m Mexican nation (with arguably the biggest live cable audience to ever reach Mexico).

I hear people here saying that Chavez is worth more than GGG... for Canelo... they must be dreaming. Even if you go to the Mexican fan base GGG vs Canelo will sell more than Chavez vs. Canelo, so at the end of the day GGG is worth more than Chavez. Chavez has the name but really he has done so little over the last few years that he isn't worth a whole lot, not that he ever did a lot, he just rode of his father's success. Anyways, i am posting a poll to see which fight is worth more, and that should answer the question if GGG should get more than Chavez. Alvarez vs Chavez Jr will likely do $10m at the gate at AT&T Stadiun, with that number likely near doubling in the site fee to be offered by MGM Resorts to host the fight. The fact that you want to think that there's all of this money, that's never been out there previously, now available to back Golovkin makes you look dumb.

It's a toss up the fact its Mexican Vs Mexican could make this one sell very well.

At what point did I suggest Chavez was a bigger match up than GGG vs Canelo, I stated Chavez will be a higher grossing opponent for Canelo hence the match up. A GGG fight is bigger for genuine boxing fans, two Mexicans on Mexican independence weekend sells more, period. You got some evidence for that? Or at least an argument that you feel good about?

I don't see him saying it's the biggest fight in boxing, like he said for GGG. I didn't say it was gonna be a dud, it'll be successful esp in Mexico but not 1m buys successful Polarizing = Mexican Americans will buy, others won't. Like I said, we can agree to disagree. I just think you don't know how big this is to all Mexicans here and south of the border. I never said it was 1 million buys, I'm giving you my opinion that this will be more profitable than Canelo vs GGG. That's all. It's simply a waiting game now if Canelo and GGG ever do face-off

"The fight with Saul Alvarez is being negotiated. That is the fight that everyone wants to see. The negotiations are very advanced. The fight could very well take place in May... they only need to agree on the money where both of them come away as winners. The weight has already been set, and they would both come in at 165-pounds. I think this fight will become a success in every aspect. They are going to break all of the attendance records. They are going to break I did in Texas , as they are both great boxers," Chavez Sr. said. ESPN Deportes call this fight "POLARIZING & years in the making." I can look more quotes up from guys like Morales and JMM if you like. This fight WILL be a big deal once it gets closer to May 6 and I still believe blows Canelo-GGG out of the water, financially speaking but we can agree to disagree I don't see him saying it's the biggest fight in boxing, like he said for GGG. I didn't say it was gonna be a dud, it'll be successful esp in Mexico but not 1m buys successful Polarizing = Mexican Americans will buy, others won't.

Golovkin has been offered a lot more than Chavez will make. I honestly believe GGG will regret turning that 15m down, talk about an inflated sense if self worth. Oscar was right, the guy believes he is a superstar.

I'd agree if Chavez was still relevant anymore. I can name tons of Mexican vs Mexican fights that are not nearly as big as GGG vs Canelo, heck there are probably several you've seen on undercards recently. In fact I can go further and say that there are fights with Mexicans Canelo has had that are not as big as a GGG fight (take for instance, Angulo). Takes more than nationality to sell tickets and PPVs. Jr's dad may be a legend but that's not proof that people care to see him in the ring. At what point did I suggest Chavez was a bigger match up than GGG vs Canelo, I stated Chavez will be a higher grossing opponent for Canelo hence the match up. A GGG fight is bigger for genuine boxing fans, two Mexicans on Mexican independence weekend sells more, period.

Hmm odd, all Mexican legends like Chavez SR, Morales, Barrera, Marquez say Canelo GGG is the biggest fight in boxing. Nobody said that about Chavez Jr. No doubt it'll be viewed by many in Mexico (as would GGG) but those don't add to the Ppv totals. Mexican Americans haven't been turning out for Chavez Jr lately, they'd rather see GGG at the forum vs anyone. "The fight with Saul Alvarez is being negotiated. That is the fight that everyone wants to see. The negotiations are very advanced. The fight could very well take place in May... they only need to agree on the money where both of them come away as winners. The weight has already been set, and they would both come in at 165-pounds. I think this fight will become a success in every aspect. They are going to break all of the attendance records. They are going to break I did in Texas , as they are both great boxers," Chavez Sr. said. ESPN Deportes call this fight "POLARIZING & years in the making." I can look more quotes up from guys like Morales and JMM if you like. This fight WILL be a big deal once it gets closer to May 6 and I still believe blows Canelo-GGG out of the water, financially speaking but we can agree to disagree

Absolutely. I'm not sure if you know how far the last name Chavez stretches in Mexico and all over the southwest part of the good ol' US of A, but you throw in the red headed fighter with it and it easily does better numbers in my opinion. For as big a deal as Los Reyes del Mago is in Mexico & the Mexican cultuer in the USA, this story was still the headliner in a lot of online material as well as spanish networks. GGG to boxing fans is better, a harder fight on paper and the guy we want to see Canelo fight, but the Mexican fan base, that supports their fighters through and through will tell you this is a bigger fight when speaking in terms of what OP is asking Hmm odd, all Mexican legends like Chavez SR, Morales, Barrera, Marquez say Canelo GGG is the biggest fight in boxing. Nobody said that about Chavez Jr. No doubt it'll be viewed by many in Mexico (as would GGG) but those don't add to the Ppv totals. Mexican Americans haven't been turning out for Chavez Jr lately, they'd rather see GGG at the forum vs anyone.

Why would you think that? You think there's one Mexican that would buy this garbage and pass on Canelo GGG? Absolutely. I'm not sure if you know how far the last name Chavez stretches in Mexico and all over the southwest part of the good ol' US of A, but you throw in the red headed fighter with it and it easily does better numbers in my opinion. For as big a deal as Los Reyes del Mago is in Mexico & the Mexican cultuer in the USA, this story was still the headliner in a lot of online material as well as spanish networks. GGG to boxing fans is better, a harder fight on paper and the guy we want to see Canelo fight, but the Mexican fan base, that supports their fighters through and through will tell you this is a bigger fight when speaking in terms of what OP is asking

As much as I dislike the fight, I'll say Canelo-Chavez is more profitable Why would you think that? You think there's one Mexican that would buy this garbage and pass on Canelo GGG?