Cool. I love reading about warriors in the past. Too many of them from the past for me to choose a number one, but here are a few interesting ones.
Xiahou Dun. Got shot in the eye with an arrow while on horseback. Pulled the arrow out, ate his eyeball and continued to fight for Cao Cao, whom we know from Sun Tzu's The Art of War.
Galvarino. Captured by the Spaniards in Chile and they chopped his hands off. Strapped on blades to his stumps and started jabbing enemies in the throat. Real life wolverine.
Melankomas of Caria. I wonder which of his techniques were lost in time. Olympic champion. Slipping punches, unbreakable defense... it would have been something to watch him box in those first Olympics. :)
Green k for the art of war mention
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Cool. I love reading about warriors in the past. Too many of them from the past for me to choose a number one, but here are a few interesting ones.
Xiahou Dun. Got shot in the eye with an arrow while on horseback. Pulled the arrow out, ate his eyeball and continued to fight for Cao Cao, whom we know from Sun Tzu's The Art of War.
Galvarino. Captured by the Spaniards in Chile and they chopped his hands off. Strapped on blades to his stumps and started jabbing enemies in the throat. Real life wolverine.
Melankomas of Caria. I wonder which of his techniques were lost in time. Olympic champion. Slipping punches, unbreakable defense... it would have been something to watch him box in those first Olympics. :)
How would one know? Billions of people over 100's of thousands of years! Cavemen alone must ave had it incredibly tough by todays standards.
THOR HEYERDAHL
Heyerdahl had a wild theory that Polynesians originally came from South America, having sailed over 4,000 miles, nearly 3,000 years ago. In 1947 he set out to recreate their trip on a hand-built balsa-wood raft, pulling in sharks and battling unthinkable storms. And, yes, after 101 days of hell he and his team made it.
EDWARD WHYMPER
In the 1800s, Whymper pioneered climbing as we know it by scrambling across the Alps in petrifying conditions. People like me owe him so much - he was a classic Englishman. He lost four of his men in the course of mapping all the routes we now have. What's more, he climbed with little more than old hemp ropes.
ERNEST SHACKLETON
Shackleton's 1914-17 Antarctic exploration is the classic in terms of inspirational leadership in the face of unbelievable agony. He endured his boat being crushed by ice, living on a tiny iceberg, crossing the freezing ocean (twice) and traversing a mountain range - yet he didn't lose a single man.
JAMES RILEY
Riley's cargo ship ran aground off the coast of north-west Africa in 1815. He and his men were captured by Sahrawi tribesmen, believed to be cannibals. They were kept as slaves, dragged behind camels across the sand. Eventually Riley was ransomed and sent home, but his weight had fallen from 17st to barely 6st.
RANULPH FIENNES
His unsupported walk across Antarctica via the South Pole in 1992-93 with Mike Stroud is the benchmark for modern exploration. They were frostbitten and starving when they were discovered. The pain, the blisters - Fiennes (above left, with Stroud) fought it all with a level head and a determination to battle on. An inspiring story of human endurance.
CORNELIUS ROST
Rost was a German soldier taken prisoner by the Russians in 1945. He was sent to a gulag in northern Siberia, where he worked at the face of a lead mine for four years. But he escaped and survived being chased across Siberia by Cossacks, crossing Russia, Mongolia and Central Asia, reaching Iran in 1952.
DOUGLAS MAWSON
Mawson got into trouble in the Antarctic in 1912, when a member of his three-man sledging team fell into a crevasse with most of their rations. He and the other man, Mertz, were forced to eat their dogs - ingesting toxic levels of vitamin A. Mertz went mad and died; only Mawson made it, driven on by the desire to propose to his girlfriend. He's an unsung hero.
WILLIAM ASH
Ash was a WWII pilot who was shot down and sent to a POW camp. This place was hell, but it was next to another camp full of Russians that was even worse. The Russians were being starved to death. Ash realised that because they were so weak, the Germans didn't guard them as well, so he swapped places with a Russian. After months of agony he eventually got out, and was sheltered by nuns. However, he went mad with fever and walked straight into a Gestapo HQ. He was skinned, soaked in brine, his fingernails were pulled off, but he still never spoke of the nuns who sheltered him.
SIMON MURRAY
A girl rejected Murray's proposal of marriage when he was 19. His reaction? 'I'm going to go and join the Foreign Legion - that'll teach her.' The Legion was at its most brutal at this stage, the early Sixties. Simon went through so much pain and suffering, but he went on to found Orange and make his fortune.
CHRIS RYAN
I know Chris and he's a good guy. In the first Iraq war, he was a member of the Bravo Two Zero patrol. When the mission went wrong, Chris evaded capture and trekked 200 miles without food or water, through hostile terrain, to escape. It's one of the great SAS
I read bravo two zero
Chris is a legend in his own right
Great post
Having heard of most but I'm gunna look em up
Thanks
Green k
It ain't got nothing on Froch, take a look at Jean Pascal vs. Carl Froch and eat your words.
Youves never seen james toney have you,he would laugh in jean pascals face if he landed those shot on toney and counter him with slick rights to an easy win
Toney went up and could still take thr pain,i could see him taking kovalevs punches easy at light heavy i cant say the same for froch
A chinese delivery guy that I new when I used to work in the South Bronx. The guy would routinely get robbed and at this one time got hit over the head and was bleeding. When the cops showed up he cleaned himself, refuse any service and continued to make his deliveries.
Tough man if you ask me
nah. gotta go with the Mongol warrior Khan. tbh I did think of Alexander and Ceasar, but history and culture from their books completely provide testimony that they took it in the ass and served other men. So no to old school Greek cultures..
Khan.
The Greeks certainly had no problem with a bit of buggery, though the Romans were a bit more coy about it. Not sure it makes them any less tough though, that's just imposing modern stereotypes which I don't think are necessarily accurate even today. That said the Mongols and other steppe tribes are regarded even today as tough mfers - a product of an exceptionally unforgiving environment, more so in many ways than the relatively far more bountiful Mediterranean.
Dunno if you're into historical fiction but Conn Igguldon has written well researched and entertaining series based around both Cesear and Genghis - if it's your thing I'd recommend both.
http://www.conniggulden.com/books
ghenkis khan
Good call, by all accounts the guy could actually fight mano a mano as well as being an almost incomparable general. Then again the same could be said for both Alexander the Great and Julius Cesear.
IMO the actual baddest man ever (or at least the most bloodthirsty) was probably Iosef Vissarionovich Dzugashvili (Stalin) but despite his early career as a bandit and bank robber probably doesn't qualify as the 'toughest'.
How would one know? Billions of people over 100's of thousands of years! Cavemen alone must ave had it incredibly tough by todays standards.
THOR HEYERDAHL
Heyerdahl had a wild theory that Polynesians originally came from South America, having sailed over 4,000 miles, nearly 3,000 years ago. In 1947 he set out to recreate their trip on a hand-built balsa-wood raft, pulling in sharks and battling unthinkable storms. And, yes, after 101 days of hell he and his team made it.
EDWARD WHYMPER
In the 1800s, Whymper pioneered climbing as we know it by scrambling across the Alps in petrifying conditions. People like me owe him so much - he was a classic Englishman. He lost four of his men in the course of mapping all the routes we now have. What's more, he climbed with little more than old hemp ropes.
ERNEST SHACKLETON
Shackleton's 1914-17 Antarctic exploration is the classic in terms of inspirational leadership in the face of unbelievable agony. He endured his boat being crushed by ice, living on a tiny iceberg, crossing the freezing ocean (twice) and traversing a mountain range - yet he didn't lose a single man.
JAMES RILEY
Riley's cargo ship ran aground off the coast of north-west Africa in 1815. He and his men were captured by Sahrawi tribesmen, believed to be cannibals. They were kept as slaves, dragged behind camels across the sand. Eventually Riley was ransomed and sent home, but his weight had fallen from 17st to barely 6st.
RANULPH FIENNES
His unsupported walk across Antarctica via the South Pole in 1992-93 with Mike Stroud is the benchmark for modern exploration. They were frostbitten and starving when they were discovered. The pain, the blisters - Fiennes (above left, with Stroud) fought it all with a level head and a determination to battle on. An inspiring story of human endurance.
CORNELIUS ROST
Rost was a German soldier taken prisoner by the Russians in 1945. He was sent to a gulag in northern Siberia, where he worked at the face of a lead mine for four years. But he escaped and survived being chased across Siberia by Cossacks, crossing Russia, Mongolia and Central Asia, reaching Iran in 1952.
DOUGLAS MAWSON
Mawson got into trouble in the Antarctic in 1912, when a member of his three-man sledging team fell into a crevasse with most of their rations. He and the other man, Mertz, were forced to eat their dogs - ingesting toxic levels of vitamin A. Mertz went mad and died; only Mawson made it, driven on by the desire to propose to his girlfriend. He's an unsung hero.
WILLIAM ASH
Ash was a WWII pilot who was shot down and sent to a POW camp. This place was hell, but it was next to another camp full of Russians that was even worse. The Russians were being starved to death. Ash realised that because they were so weak, the Germans didn't guard them as well, so he swapped places with a Russian. After months of agony he eventually got out, and was sheltered by nuns. However, he went mad with fever and walked straight into a Gestapo HQ. He was skinned, soaked in brine, his fingernails were pulled off, but he still never spoke of the nuns who sheltered him.
SIMON MURRAY
A girl rejected Murray's proposal of marriage when he was 19. His reaction? 'I'm going to go and join the Foreign Legion - that'll teach her.' The Legion was at its most brutal at this stage, the early Sixties. Simon went through so much pain and suffering, but he went on to found Orange and make his fortune.
CHRIS RYAN
I know Chris and he's a good guy. In the first Iraq war, he was a member of the Bravo Two Zero patrol. When the mission went wrong, Chris evaded capture and trekked 200 miles without food or water, through hostile terrain, to escape. It's one of the great SAS
Yeah now you told me that I'm guna find a book bout him
Thanks for the info bud
Good choice
My pleasure. There's an excellent documentary called "The Last Round: Chuvalo vs Ali" (2003). It's available on DVD, but I'm sure you can stream it. Well worth your time. George makes for an interesting subject. Larger than life kind of guy.
You understand where I'm coming from. I've seen George in documentaries and shows since all that. You can't see into a person's soul, but he appears unbent to me. He still has that energy and charisma. Seems incredible to me. Just a force of nature.
Yeah now you told me that I'm guna find a book bout him
Thanks for the info bud
Good choice
I didn't know that
Losing one of my kids would destroy me
I fear it more than anything
You understand where I'm coming from. I've seen George in documentaries and shows since all that. You can't see into a person's soul, but he appears unbent to me. He still has that energy and charisma. Seems incredible to me. Just a force of nature.
As far as tough boxers go, ESPN's list is excellent and fun to read.
http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3184174
There have to be dozens of historical examples to cite, but one of the toughest men I'm aware of is on the ESPN list: George Chuvalo. Chuvalo wasn't only physically tough on an insane level, he seems to be unbreakable in any way. One of his sons committed suicide, and two others died from drug overdoses (three of his five kids). His wife committed suicide after the death of the second son. These are life experiences that would shatter most human beings. Yet, despite all this, George appears unbent. Tough, tough hombre.
I didn't know that
Losing one of my kids would destroy me
I fear it more than anything
As far as tough boxers go, ESPN's list is excellent and fun to read.
http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3184174
There have to be dozens of historical examples to cite, but one of the toughest men I'm aware of is on the ESPN list: George Chuvalo. Chuvalo wasn't only physically tough on an insane level, he seems to be unbreakable in any way. One of his sons committed suicide, and two others died from drug overdoses (three of his five kids). His wife committed suicide after the death of the second son. These are life experiences that would shatter most human beings. Yet, despite all this, George appears unbent. Tough, tough hombre.
P4p james toney ,chin made carls look like my grandmothers,love to see froch taking bombs from heavyweightd and ko holyfield
Froch is a hella fighter though but james toneys chin is insane
It ain't got nothing on Froch, take a look at Jean Pascal vs. Carl Froch and eat your words.
texasboi15 is the toughest mother****er on the earth
he can beat 100% people on that forum with ease
look at the way he talks **** here, ain't you convinced he's the toughest?
Never spoke to him