Has to go down as one of the biggest ducks of all time?
"I've accomplished everything" Most of the boxing world thought you lost the fight of your life. Avenge it and be a champion.
Dan Raphael in his chat last week said about 75% of boxing analysts had it 115-112 for kovalev. The same score I had.
If not a robbery, it's a stain on Wards legacy.
Learn to spell you ****ing idiot. Go suck your sister's balls
lol why the **** u lying
https://m.popkey.co/155d06/ldJZ0.gif
your sister doesnt have balls, at least not when I raped her last week. and sorry didnt knew you r a grammar nerd.
and btw
http://rs305.pbsrc.com/albums/nn219/mnky_gurl66/haha.gif~c200
now go guzzle others's cum on my ignore list u stupid cunt.
I hope Ward doesnt give Kovalev the rematch so the Kovalev fans can go cry in a ****ing corner for the rest of their life. This fanbase is full of nothing but dumb ****suckers, why should Ward give it what it wants? **** them
NOPE kido. Either way Ward is ****ed and his reputation is affected. If he fights Kovalev he knows he loses, if he avoids the rematch he goes out of a gift decisions in the biggest fight of his life. He then ducks that same opponent he is legally obligated(his own ****ing signature) to fight.
I think you are the "fan base" that is the real problem.
the ring .com/465555-oscar-says-made-eight-figure-offer-ggg/
''Loeffler told ******.com after the fight that Golden Boy’s offer wasn’t substantial enough, but he remains committed to make a fight with Canelo.''
only 3g is allowed to be a businessman.
Like I said, this guy is having a breakdown and spamming the thread with random links he thinks support all his GGG butthuet but usually they say the opposite. No flat fees for the biggest fight in the sport, dumbfcuk. That's how it works in boxing
'' “GGG is now clearly the ‘A’ side yet Ward still would want to dictate terms, which makes no sense,” Loeffler said. “GGG would fight Ward on a 50-50 basis, the best 160-pounder versus the best 168-pounder 164 a 50-50 split on all proceeds. But it seems like Ward needs more tuneup fights.”
''derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...............no one does 50/50 cause i says so''
http://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/13381/heres-what-it-will-take-to-make-ward-vs-ggg
know whats missing ? quotes from 3g himself.
''“They went on the record and they’ve campaigned for years that will fight anybody… and anybody means anybody. So I said that I have no problem fighting Golovkin and now all of a sudden it’s a campaign to stay at 160.” ''
''Assuming the conversation unfolded exactly as GGG described it, Ward’s response indicates that it likely took place during his hiatus from the ring in 2013, when he was sidelined after tearing his right shoulder and also embroiled in a legal dispute with his promoter, Dan Goosen.''
http://www.thefightcity.com/golovkin-vs-ward-gennady-golovkin-andre-ward-kovalev-boxing/
50/50 is already a major concession on their part. Why should they make every concession to the B sider? That's why B side Ward gets a generous 50/50 across the board , and then A side Froch gets every concession. Get it finally?
http://www.badlefthook.com/2015/6/16/8788845/gennady-golovkin-blasts-andre-ward
"Hey, Ward, wake up! Why are you talking trash about other people? Speak for yourself. If you're trying to make a name for yourself by mentioning me(1) to build up your own fight, then be a man about it and tell the truth. At our meeting with HBO they asked us whether we are ready to box. You know our answers - I said yes, you said no. You said something about your shoulder or promoter - I'm not interested in the reason, I only heard your "no." But you remember that HBO said then that they would need a long time to build-up the fight(2). Then what the **** are you talking about excuses?"
"If you do provocative attacks, do not even think that Loeffler will buy into them. You haven't been interesting to anyone for a long time, so he will no longer engage in the promotion of your name. Go and build your own image. Although everyone already knows what you are, and because of this, they do not go to your fights."
:haha:
1) what name does 3g have besides running a weak div ?!?!?
2) hbo probably said they needed time to promote the fight and ward was like ''naw, dont want to wait.''
for some reason, team 3g came at old ass froch harded than they did with a prime ward.
Dude you're a joke. Did you even read that? This was back in 2013 before Ward went AWOL. HBO sat them down, asked if they're ready to face each other. GGG said yes,Ward had some excuse. Then GGG got much bigger and Ward sat out and made a joke offer 2 years later. It's like you're now throwing any random link at me without reading and understanding what it says
once again, your link is damaged. it didnt support the vibe youre trying to send. mine clears the air.
say goodnight, gracie......
Link was fine, you're just internet illiterate. It's just a snippet of Loeffler saying they offered Froch 168 in the UK, dated Oct 2014. Then second link reiterating their offer 8 months later, Froch retires 2 months later after tweeting too big, too strong lol
rumor ?!?!?
''Froch sought the fight the first time but HBO said no as GGG was not big enough. After the 2nd Groves fight he was setting up a fight with JCC jr he wanted a big fight in America. That fell through as Jccjr blew it and he brought up GGG as a possible opponent instead. GGGs team wanted the fight in the UK while Froch wanted it in America. The talks fell through and the last time Froch met Loefller (the only time Froch met Loefller) Loeffler said no to Frochs proposition.''
naw, contracts are always smooth sailing.
What's this unattributed garbage? Is it bn24? Froch sought the fight lol. He offered that as an excuse, that HBO wouldn't put it on Ppv, but they put Lemieux on next so there's that. And lol at Ggg demanding UK as an obstacle. That's a major concession, dumbfcuk, cause that's where the money was. Hearn never mentioned one issue with team GGG, it was all on Froch if he was up for a fight that dangerous. He wasnt
which came 1st, the retirement talk or the ''maybe ill move up'' talk ?!?!?
we all believe who we want, eh ?
Why are you asking me all these dumb questions? I've already taught you some lessons, you refuse to listen, refuse to look things up for yourself. Terrible attitude for a noob , you gonna stay clueless for a long time.
Froch was loving his post Wembley limelight, he was aiming square for Chavez next. Put up a Facebook poll, who should I fight next, GGG runaway winner. Wasn't that long ago.
Rematches are such BS. If you lose, you ****ing lose. Who wants to fight somebody they already beat? How do you get motivated?
That's the biggest joke of a response. How can rematches be BS in this situation when most people had the other guy winning? He has had everything catered to him his whole career. Never had to travel in the Super 6. Had Dawson come to in weight to fight him, got the decision in a close but decisive loss, had his buddy and only true competition in the Super 6 drop out, etc. Ward has always been impressive, yet he wants to retire the first time he truly faced adversity? That's a cop out.
frochs take on the situation...
'' "I spoke to Tom Loeffler and we were just chatting about fighting at a catchweight but he didn't want him to come near me," he told Sky Sports.
'' "He didn't say anything, he didn't want to agree to anything - it didn't even sound like he wanted him to even come up to 168lbs. As soon as that was mentioned he was straight on to talking about fighting Canelo .'' ''
yeah, froch ''swerved''.....
Easy to talk trash from retirement. When the fight was on the table, it was swerve him like the plague
2014.....froch was 37/38. everyone knew froch was talking retirement. why wasnt 3g in frochs ear prior ?!?!? why didnt team 3g accept wards 50/50 deal ?!?!?! i couldnt find those swerve quotes in any link.
last question, did you find any fault in my linkS ?!?!?
GGG didn't have the name much darlier, his first HBO date was 2012. I get it, atill way before your time. And lol at not being able to find Frochs infamous quotes. How useless are you?
Nobody in boxing ever gives 50/50, a full weigh concession, 10lbs+ fight night, and a tune-up to a B sider coming off 300k viewers on BET. Get back to me when you buy a clue
you were barely right. he was in frochs ear in 2014. there was no guarantee that the fight would have been made easily with no contractual hiccups.
froch was pushing 40 when team 3g was all about maybe fighting froch. i posted a link and a quote from 3g saying that he preferred staying a little mw and unifying the titles.
your link was weak as shlt. no contract specifications. no 3g quotes. just speculation. 3g got vocal well into frochs retirement.
ill peddle facts whenever i want.
No contract hiccups, don't be making up more crap. They offered to fight Froch at 168 in the UK back in 2014 when Froch was the runaway #1 active SMW with a career high p4p ranking. Froch said "swerve him like the plague, punches like a mule, dangerous fight". But I see you're not interested in the facts of the case, you got some agenda to push
there, was that so hard (1st link doesnt work)? it was hardly the way you made it out to be though. i wanted you to give me your take on froch tucking tail and running for the hills. that was not the case.
froch thought he was too big for 3g. brook thought he was up to the task to face a guy bigger than him and what happened ? the bigger guy prevailed.
also, you usually see 3g saying he would fight so and so. i have yet to find a link that quotes 3g saying anything about froch. regarding froch, its all loeffler (a ton of boxing 24 news articles with a ton of fan boy opinions and slants to end them on).
frochs take on the situation...
'' "I spoke to Tom Loeffler and we were just chatting about fighting at a catchweight but he didn't want him to come near me," he told Sky Sports.
'' "He didn't say anything, he didn't want to agree to anything - it didn't even sound like he wanted him to even come up to 168lbs. As soon as that was mentioned he was straight on to talking about fighting Canelo .'' ''
http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/10088548/carl-froch-says-he-is-not-going-to-fight-gennady-golovkin
then theres this bit (same article).....
''Golovkin and Loeffler have already said the IBF and WBA world middleweight champion is happy to move up to secure a big fight in the near future.''
froch didnt have a future. he was damn near 40. had a ton of wars. contracts alone can take a year to finalize.
''Golovkin finished by saying that he's just a regular-sized middleweight who is able to make 160lbs comfortably, and thus has no immediate intentions of leaving the division.''
http://www.badlefthook.com/2016/8/26/12660326/gennady-golovkin-dismisses-opinions-of-canelo-eubank-saunders-and
then theres a case where 3g could be slanted for being a dodger....
''For Ward, on the other hand, it's obvious Sanchez simply wasn't confident enough the reward was worth the risk.''
http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/6192-Andre-Ward-vs-Gennady-Golovkin-at-168-GGG-s-trainer-slams-Ward-s-drawing-power
“The fight was offered, 50-50. Every detail was 50-50 and we made a conscious decision as a team to make him a 50-50 offer just so there was no wiggle room.”
https://www.boxingnewsandviews.com/2016/09/18/andre-ward-vs-gennady-golovkin/
''Ward goes on to say how the plan would have been for he and GGG to each box a tune-up – as he and Kovalev did before meeting earlier this month – “then let’s get it on right after.” But Ward says Team-GGG wanted Golovkin to unify the middleweight titles first (he still has the WBO title in his sights) “and then maybe in 2018.” ''
https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/andre-ward-team-ggg/65614
theres a reason why i wanted YOU to give me your best link to a froch vs 3g sos i can counter it.....and i did !
What's all this garbage? Best link, wtf? You claimed they were after the guy only after he retired, I prove you wrong then you reply with some links from well after his retirement and any random grievance you have vs Ggg. Don't let me catch you peddling that lame "they were after Froch only after he retired" talking point again, scoundrel
I think the better question is, how does Ward win? But, we'll see what happens.
holding and hitting, lowblows, biased ref, biased judges. same as first fight whats the prob?
Rematches are such BS. If you lose, you ****ing lose. Who wants to fight somebody they already beat? How do you get motivated?
If ward avoids a rematch, it won't be because he already won convincingly and can't get up for it...it'll be because he doesn't want another tough fight that he has a good chance of losing.
if he retires then he will have more wins than the thread starter and will have accomplished more in the sport than a lot of people who tried. don't understand how he can be labeled a duck when he just went up in weight and fought the guy ur say hes ducking. what if he rematches Kov and wins another close fight? will u make this same thread?
I know what you meant you dumb cunt, i wasnt taking you seriously. Youre a ****ing joke
ooooh the dumbfuck replies after getting embarrassed, wow and now making excuses? dont get defensive my son everything will be alright my son.
I am sorry if I offended u in my last post but I was licking your mom's anus at that time, forgive me cunty. :fingersx: