Since Povetkin got caught on PEDs...
When Wilder gonna forced to fight someone good?
Endless voluntary defences against unknow bums like Wawrzyk etc.
For example: Joshua - Klitschko winner must face Luis 'King Kong' Ortiz next, but what about Wilder?
Since when GGG has been offered 15 millions? As I remember he was mandatory chalenger for Canelo's 160 Tittles, but Ducknelo dropped tittles then went back to 154...
It's been revealed he was offered 15 mill but wants a percentage
If golovkin has been offered 15 mill and has turned it down he's pricing himself out and avoiding his biggest fight why?
Since when GGG has been offered 15 millions? As I remember he was mandatory chalenger for Canelo's 160 Tittles, but Ducknelo dropped tittles then went back to 154...
Jesus Christ.Did I say something wrong? Tell me who is out there for him to fight that he is not fighting. In other words, what fighters are he ducking? He has a mandatory defense against the Stiverne/ Whyte elimination title bout since Povetkin pulled out of his fight with him after being caught cheating. In addition, I'm pretty sure we will see him fight the winner of the Anthony Joshua/Wladimir Klitschko bout later in the Fall of 2017. However, even if he does decide to fight them and especially defeat them he is still going to have more than his share of critics and detractors and that's a given fact.
The fanboys who say that just want to see him lose that's all. It is no different when Mayweather was fighting when Larry merchant would often say the same thing every time Floyd would win. He'd say "When is he going to fight someone good because we would like to see him in competitive fights". The bottom line is, Deontay Wilder like his predecessor Floyd Mayweather, Jr; Will never be able to satisfy or please his detractors/haters no matter how hard he tries as long as he keeps winning.
Jesus Christ.
Not really similar situations. Golovkin has had endless big title fights lined up in his own division (Sturm, Martinez, Cotto, Canelo, Quillin, etc) and each time was pretty blatantly ducked ("Let it marinate, unecessary risk", etc). Ironically this is where most of his fame/reputation comes from and what made him so big.
The ostarine test isn't Wilder's fault but before that he was choosing to opt for basically the lamest competition available in a division full of guys who wanted and still want to fight him.
Note that I'm not saying Golovkin's record is amazing (people tend to read Golovkin-related posts however they want to read them), but if you followed his rise to fame you'd understand his duck-chasing steak was a bigger deal than his actual fights.
If golovkin has been offered 15 mill and has turned it down he's pricing himself out and avoiding his biggest fight why?
The fanboys who say that just want to see him lose that's all. It is no different when Mayweather was fighting when Larry merchant would often say the same thing every time Floyd would win. He'd say "When is he going to fight someone good because we would like to see him in competitive fights". The bottom line is, Deontay Wilder like his predecessor Floyd Mayweather, Jr; Will never be able to satisfy or please his detractors/haters no matter how hard he tries as long as he keeps winning.
Yes my mistake misread his comment
Still not as harsh on Wilder as I and fight fans in general SHOULD BE though. I just don't want to see people make excuse for him! Because if he has fans who make excuses for him and is willing to accept him taking on Inferior opponents then guess what? He will continue to do it!
Gave him a pass vs Molina after he beat Stiverne, nothing wrong with going back home and trying to build up your fanbase in your backyard after becoming World Champion but after Molina he should've stepped up again but no he took a even BIGGER Step back and fought Duhepaus (whatever).
Just want to see the best fight the best, PERIOD with no excuses attached to it!
He has fans but not enough that he should be fat, dumb and happy about his situation. I think he gets that, and I think he wants to make real heavyweight money which will require him to take on the top guys.
Wilder has a lot to prove but he has time to prove it meaningless February fight aside that leaves him the rest of the year to make a statement with two fights and beyond that if things go well. I have never been in a rush with Wilder though he is about as good as he will ever be so now is his time.
Arreola was a replacement fight because of that cheater in russia in which he injured his bicep, he had surgery and has recovered hopefully. so hes supposed to come off an injury and fight the best guy in the division? who should he fight?
How about addressing the last part of my post, eh?
He was forced to fight Stiverne, he won. He was forced to fight Povetkin. We know how that turned out. He was going to be forced to fight the Stiverne-Povetkin winner. We know how that turned out.
nope nope nope. You dont get credit for fights that didnt happen.
That dude is not a Wilder fan~
He is saying Wilder was hurt by those men in those fight which is not really true either, not that he was injured in those fight.
You taking this level of offense and reading it like this is why you might be considered by some as overly harsh on Wilder.
Yes my mistake misread his comment
Still not as harsh on Wilder as I and fight fans in general SHOULD BE though. I just don't want to see people make excuse for him! Because if he has fans who make excuses for him and is willing to accept him taking on Inferior opponents then guess what? He will continue to do it!
Gave him a pass vs Molina after he beat Stiverne, nothing wrong with going back home and trying to build up your fanbase in your backyard after becoming World Champion but after Molina he should've stepped up again but no he took a even BIGGER Step back and fought Duhepaus (whatever).
Just want to see the best fight the best, PERIOD with no excuses attached to it!
Baring any unexpected circumstances (and that's a possibility - this is boxing afterall) look for Wilder to fight three times in 2017. He's got a tuneup in February and after that, he may face Stiverne again. In the early to late fall, he should face a top ten opponent - Klitschko, Fury (Tyson or Hughie), Joshua, Parker.
Edit: Actually I could see Wilder facing Tyson Fury in Britain for the WBC strap. There has been a building rivalry between the two over the years and that fight would bring in a lot $$$
Wilder is actually very average fighter, he can get hurt by any hw division fighter that can punch. Lol, look at his face after Duhaupas fight. That is what i am saying.
Got you my mistake misread your other comment
Wilder is actually very average fighter, he can get hurt by any hw division fighter that can punch. Lol, look at his face after Duhaupas fight. That is what i am saying.
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So Wilder been "Hurt" since beating Stiverne? :lol1:
Some of you guys are reaching for excuses at this point I mean serious. So this guy he is fighting is his fuking Rehab Partner who will come to lay day and make sure that Wilder does get hurt? Then when he loses let me guess "He Was Injured" will be the Excuse? Sorry this is not the boxing I know WTF is wrong with Today's boxing fan who will go as far as making as ASS out of themselves to defend guys who are reluctant to "DARE TO BE GREAT"
That dude is not a Wilder fan~
He is saying Wilder was hurt by those men in those fight which is not really true either, not that he was injured in those fight.
You taking this level of offense and reading it like this is why you might be considered by some as overly harsh on Wilder.
There is no easy fight for Wilder, if he fights top 50 opponent by boxrec. As we saw, he had troubles against Szpilka, Arreola, Duhaupas, Molina. he was hurt in these fights. So actually i am looking forward to see his next fight against this Polish guy.
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So Wilder been "Hurt" since beating Stiverne? :lol1:
Some of you guys are reaching for excuses at this point I mean serious. So this guy he is fighting is his fuking Rehab Partner who will come to lay day and make sure that Wilder does get hurt? Then when he loses let me guess "He Was Injured" will be the Excuse? Sorry this is not the boxing I know WTF is wrong with Today's boxing fan who will go as far as making as ASS out of themselves to defend guys who are reluctant to "DARE TO BE GREAT"
The same people in here bashing wilders admittedly **** resume praise golovkins **** resume and reluctance to fight anyone good. Bunch of idiots major difference between the two is golovkins extensive amateur career and the fact that he has multiple weight classes above him that he can move in to.
Not really similar situations. Golovkin has had endless big title fights lined up in his own division (Sturm, Martinez, Cotto, Canelo, Quillin, etc) and each time was pretty blatantly ducked ("Let it marinate, unecessary risk", etc). Ironically this is where most of his fame/reputation comes from and what made him so big.
The ostarine test isn't Wilder's fault but before that he was choosing to opt for basically the lamest competition available in a division full of guys who wanted and still want to fight him.
Note that I'm not saying Golovkin's record is amazing (people tend to read Golovkin-related posts however they want to read them), but if you followed his rise to fame you'd understand his duck-chasing steak was a bigger deal than his actual fights.
There is no easy fight for Wilder, if he fights top 50 opponent by boxrec. As we saw, he had troubles against Szpilka, Arreola, Duhaupas, Molina. he was hurt in these fights. So actually i am looking forward to see his next fight against this Polish guy.