WBC MW Tournament

would expect lemiuex to win that tournament quite comfortably Same here... Stevens was dropped and lost to Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam who Lemieux dropped 4 times in a one way fight...

I wish Lemieux/Stevens would just fight already. I'd prefer if Khurtzsidze was in the tourney. The Lemieux/Stevens winner would face Canelo, while GGG faces Saunders/N'Dam. If GGG/Canelo doesn't get made, then GGG could fight the new WBC mandatory. Stevens is a dangerous fight for Lemieux b/c he plays into Stevens wheel house of standing in front of Stevens and banging. It's a bad match up for Lemieux and I think his team knows it. I'd love a Stevens/Khurtsidze fight, but idk if that's possible b/c of the Roizer & Stark connection. As of now, this WBC tourney looks sh*t, but the winner is still better than the current option of Heiland. Even if Heiland won it, he'd have more credibility.

Sounds like Heiland's not happy, I love it. A four-man tournament for the middleweight mandatory spot is being planned.— Lance Pugmire (@latimespugmire) December 14, 2016 Heiland manager upset over the tournament assignment...— Lance Pugmire (@latimespugmire) December 14, 2016 "Please trust the WBC. This decision is best for your kid," @wbcmoro tells Heiland manager.— Lance Pugmire (@latimespugmire) December 14, 2016 The top 4 middleweights in that tourney could change but for now they are Heiland, Ievgen Khytrov, Curtis Stevens, David Lemieux.— Lance Pugmire (@latimespugmire) December 14, 2016 F*ck Heiland, he's just sat on the #1 position without doing anything for last 2 years. All those other guys wreck him. I could see Lemieux dropping out to purse Canelo or Saunders and maybe Lee or Murata taking his spot. He was waiting for that title shot!

Damn, they dropped Andy Lee from the rankings and elevated Curtis Stevens to #3 b/c he has some fringe WBC title. I'm not sure Khytrov will be considered available as he has a fight early next month, also not sure David Lemieux would accept an invitation. Derevyanchenko is the IBF #2 and waiting to hear if he'll fight Tureano, so it could be Heiland/Sulecki Stevens/Murata I'm alot less excited about that if so. I'd pick Sulecki to KO Heiland, but not sure if Murata can outbox Stevens. I could see Stevens catching Murata, then KO'ing Sulecki, and that would make Stevens the WBC mando to GGG - yuck. I wish Lemieux/Stevens would just fight already. I'd prefer if Khurtzsidze was in the tourney. The Lemieux/Stevens winner would face Canelo, while GGG faces Saunders/N'Dam. If GGG/Canelo doesn't get made, then GGG could fight the new WBC mandatory.

new WBC rankings Damn, they dropped Andy Lee from the rankings and elevated Curtis Stevens to #3 b/c he has some fringe WBC title. I'm not sure Khytrov will be considered available as he has a fight early next month, also not sure David Lemieux would accept an invitation. Derevyanchenko is the IBF #2 and waiting to hear if he'll fight Tureano, so it could be Heiland/Sulecki Stevens/Murata I'm alot less excited about that if so. I'd pick Sulecki to KO Heiland, but not sure if Murata can outbox Stevens. I could see Stevens catching Murata, then KO'ing Sulecki, and that would make Stevens the WBC mando to GGG - yuck. 1 .- Jorge Sebastian Heiland (Argentina) 2 .- Ievgen Khytrov (Ukraine) NABF 3 .- Curtis Stevens (US) AMERICA 4 .- David Lemieux (Canada) 5 .- Ryota Murata (Japan) 6 .- Sergey Derevyanchenko (Ukraine) 7 .- Maciej Sulecki (Poland) 8 .- Avtandil Khurtsidze (Ukraine) 9 .- Willie Monroe (US) * CBP/P 10 .- Matt Korobov (Russia) 11 .- Arif Magomedov (Russia) * CBP/P 12 .- Tommy Langford (GB) COMM/BBB C * CBP/P 13 .- Hugo Centeno, Jr. (US) * CBP/P 14 .- Antoine Douglas (US) * CBP/P 15 .- Emmanuele Blandamura (Italy) EBU

I like it. Heiland's kind of a weak link though and like you I doubt Lemieux will participate. And, being a Top Rank fighter, I guess Murata will pursue the WBO rather than the WBC. Maybe Monroe Jr or Sulecki for the fourth man, assuming Lemieux drops out? In general I wish the sanctioning bodies would take a more active role in making their ranked fighters face each other. A few possible rules could be: (1) you get dropped altogether if you don't fight for a year, (2) ranked fighters can only face other ranked fighters, (3) you only become the mandatory challenger through winning a yearly elimination tournament composed of the four highest ranked contenders willing or able to participate I hope to hell the IBF makes Tureano Johnson fight Derevyanchenko, b/c as of right now both are weak contenders based on their current accomplishments.

I like it. Heiland's kind of a weak link though and like you I doubt Lemieux will participate. And, being a Top Rank fighter, I guess Murata will pursue the WBO rather than the WBC. Maybe Monroe Jr or Sulecki for the fourth man, assuming Lemieux drops out? In general I wish the sanctioning bodies would take a more active role in making their ranked fighters face each other. A few possible rules could be: (1) you get dropped altogether if you don't fight for a year, (2) ranked fighters can only face other ranked fighters, (3) you only become the mandatory challenger through winning a yearly elimination tournament composed of the four highest ranked contenders willing or able to participate

heiland is supposed to be fighting andy lee early next year.is that still going down?

wtf happened to heiland? i literally have not heard anything about him in years since he KO'd Macklin in ireland.

Sounds like Heiland's not happy, I love it. A four-man tournament for the middleweight mandatory spot is being planned.— Lance Pugmire (@latimespugmire) December 14, 2016 Heiland manager upset over the tournament assignment...— Lance Pugmire (@latimespugmire) December 14, 2016 "Please trust the WBC. This decision is best for your kid," @wbcmoro tells Heiland manager.— Lance Pugmire (@latimespugmire) December 14, 2016 The top 4 middleweights in that tourney could change but for now they are Heiland, Ievgen Khytrov, Curtis Stevens, David Lemieux.— Lance Pugmire (@latimespugmire) December 14, 2016 F*ck Heiland, he's just sat on the #1 position without doing anything for last 2 years. All those other guys wreck him. I could see Lemieux dropping out to purse Canelo or Saunders and maybe Lee or Murata taking his spot.without a doubt this is good news.about time these clowns started fighting each other.

Good fights but you never know if these "tournaments" will ever actually take place. Heiland and his team should have been staying busy and trying to build a profile instead of waiting for a good payday. Golovkin would obviously fight him if he had to but it puts him in a no win situation because he would be criticized for fighting someone nobody has ever heard of. If the names are too big, the tournaments seem to always fall apart - like when they tried them at 147 and 154. Outside of Eubank and Lemiuex, I don't think these other MW's have better options than to pursue than this.

Good fights but you never know if these "tournaments" will ever actually take place. Heiland and his team should have been staying busy and trying to build a profile instead of waiting for a good payday. Golovkin would obviously fight him if he had to but it puts him in a no win situation because he would be criticized for fighting someone nobody has ever heard of.

The current top 15 has Eubank at #2, definitely would rather see him in there than fighting that Australian guy for the 168lbs IBO belt. Heiland/Eubank Lee/Khytrov that would produce a solid contender for GGG. 1 .- Jorge Sebastian Heiland (Argentina) 2 .- Chris Eubank Jr. (GB) 3 .- Ievgen Khytrov (Ukraine) NABF 4 .- David Lemieux (Canada) 5 .- Andy Lee (Ireland) 6 .- Ryota Murata (Japan) 7 .- Avtandil Khurtsidze (Ukraine) 8 .- Curtis Stevens (US) AMERICA 9 .- Sergey Derevyanchenkov (Russia) 10 .- Maciej Sulecki (Poland) 11 .- Peter Quillin (US) 12 .- Dwight Ritchie (Australia) OPBF 13 Willie Monroe (US) * CBP/P 14 .- Matt Korobov (Russia) 15 .- Brian Rose (GB) * CBP/P

of all the weight classes to do this with.. does anybody really care who comes on top?

I thought Derevyanchenko looked better than Khytrov. I would also welcome Andy Lee instead of Heiland.