Dave Allen: Luiz Ortiz Hits A Lot Harder Than Anthony Joshua! (VIDEO)

Povetkin? the strongest? Wlad made him look like a little girl. It was the worst fight i've ever seen but Wlad just used his size and strength to spoil it. There's plenty of HW's stronger than Povetkin. That was the worst fight youve ever seen? I have a treat for you, go watch Fury VS Klitschko.

Dave Allen...where to start? The man has balls, taking on Whyte and Ortiz with no real trainer / camp. But he needs to get some from of structure into his boxing training otherwise he is going to get hurt, like permanently. I like Ortiz, he has real skill and fast hands for a HW - he'd be a handful for any Top HW. Personally I think Ortiz can beat Wilder / Parker easily and give Joshua a real fight. Ortiz is a very natural boxer, Joshua is manufactured - watch them both, the difference is clear.

how many guy's out of his 18 opponent came to fight? this is the key point in AJ's career. Everyone says AJ will KO parker, KO wilder KO fury KO XYZ based on KO'ing some bum's that have no intention of fight back. Parker for example is looking very vunerable after being thrown in with top 15 guy's early in his career, but the experience is invaluable. AJ is learning nothing KO'ing these can's. Btw im answering my own question here but the 1 guy from 18 that actually fought back was Dillian whyte and we all saw what happened in round 2. A D- (im being generous) fighter in whyte had AJ buzzed badly. Imagine if that was ortiz, parker, wilder, haye or even fury landing that left hook on him.... I said this before, Whyte couldn't make a dent in Allen yet he had Joshua on queer street. He is far from a heavy punch. And in regards to coming to fight, we have seen others make a better go of it than "coming to fight"

I'm not a Joshua fan. I do really like Povetkin as a fighter but i just think he's far from the biggest puncher or strongest in the division. I respect your opinion but i dont think like you. You fan of AJ or not. this is no matter. Everyone free in their thoughts and preferences. If Povetkin can knockout his opponent this weekend, this will be very serious message to heavyweight fighters. Bermane Stiverne is preparing very well for this fight so, he'll never give up. Its not easy to knock him out but Povetkin accomplish this. :boxing:

Wlad's right hand is still the biggest punch in boxing

I talking about his punch power. Povetkin likes close fights(distance). He has great chin and strong punches so, you'll see his power and great combinations this weekend... You continue to think the advertisers are boxers like AJ. Povetkin talks little but doest his job best! :boxing: I'm not a Joshua fan. I do really like Povetkin as a fighter but i just think he's far from the biggest puncher or strongest in the division.

Povetkin? the strongest? Wlad made him look like a little girl. It was the worst fight i've ever seen but Wlad just used his size and strength to spoil it. There's plenty of HW's stronger than Povetkin. I talking about his punch power. Povetkin likes close fights(distance). He has great chin and strong punches so, you'll see his power and great combinations this weekend... You continue to think the advertisers are boxers like AJ. Povetkin talks little but doest his job best! :boxing:

it might be true. Ortiz hits harder than many heavyweights but I think Povetkin is strongest HW right now. Im looking forward to his fighting against Bermane Stiverne this weekend. Povetkin? the strongest? Wlad made him look like a little girl. It was the worst fight i've ever seen but Wlad just used his size and strength to spoil it. There's plenty of HW's stronger than Povetkin.

it might be true. Ortiz hits harder than many heavyweights but I think Povetkin is strongest HW right now. Im looking forward to his fighting against Bermane Stiverne this weekend.

Whilst I agree, I don't think the Molina fight is a gauge of anything. the bum didn't come to fight and was more than happy to get his check and get out of there as quick as possible. If he had put in the kind of effort he did against Wilder then it would be a different situation. But yeah I doubt Ortiz hits as hard as Joshua how many guy's out of his 18 opponent came to fight? this is the key point in AJ's career. Everyone says AJ will KO parker, KO wilder KO fury KO XYZ based on KO'ing some bum's that have no intention of fight back. Parker for example is looking very vunerable after being thrown in with top 15 guy's early in his career, but the experience is invaluable. AJ is learning nothing KO'ing these can's. Btw im answering my own question here but the 1 guy from 18 that actually fought back was Dillian whyte and we all saw what happened in round 2. A D- (im being generous) fighter in whyte had AJ buzzed badly. Imagine if that was ortiz, parker, wilder, haye or even fury landing that left hook on him....

Joshua hits hard but you never see him really ice anybody like Wilder does. A lot of his stoppages in his career, especially early fights were refs jumping in. In recent fights, fighters have gotten up from his shots, some just didn't want to continue i.e Martin. I'm not exactly a Wilder fan but he actually puts peoples lights out. As for Ortiz, who knows. We will probably see the best of Ortiz when he has a good opponent in. Many Cuban fighters just do enough to win when it's almost too easy. They don't seem to overexert themselves unless they have to. Maybe Ortiz will be similar.

I don't think any heavyweight hits as hard as Joshua. He KOs 100% of his opponents and Ortiz doesn't. Joshua is 250 pounds of muscle with fast hands and perfect punching technique. That adds up to tremendous punching power as the results of his fights should tell you. Look how easily and quickly he just KOed a guy who went 9 rounds with Wilder. Whilst I agree, I don't think the Molina fight is a gauge of anything. the bum didn't come to fight and was more than happy to get his check and get out of there as quick as possible. If he had put in the kind of effort he did against Wilder then it would be a different situation. But yeah I doubt Ortiz hits as hard as Joshua

Ortiz hit him so hard hes talking like kell brook :eek:

Ortiz is definitely a dark horse, he would have to be a mandatory before anyone would fight him.

He only sparred Joshua though.. @ 3:00 Jesus christ, he's slurring his speech like michael sprott. get that man to the hospital ffs.

I don't think any heavyweight hits as hard as Joshua. He KOs 100% of his opponents and Ortiz doesn't. Joshua is 250 pounds of muscle with fast hands and perfect punching technique. That adds up to tremendous punching power as the results of his fights should tell you. Look how easily and quickly he just KOed a guy who went 9 rounds with Wilder.