Comments Thread For: Joseph Parker Edges Andy Ruiz To Capture WBO Title

:439:He had so much skills and came back home with no title but the champion of Burger King who sponsored the show says it all :fingersx: hehehehehehehe true :439:

Both guys were well trained and came prepared. Parker just simply had more in the tank but either got sloppy. I gave Parker the edge, Ruiz faded and waited way to long for opportunities

CompuBox numbers just came out - Parker 560 thrown-119 landed. Ruiz 416 thrown, 107 landed.

One thing that's certain is that Parker had a much more educational 2016 than his counterparts like Joshua. The Takam and Ruiz wins may not have been pretty but the experience gained is basically invaluable. Not to mention that at age 24 and while clearly still a work in progress, Parker now probably has a top five resume in the division He's obviously beatable, but so are his key rivals

Hahahaha you are a joke, he is fat but has better boxing skills and speed than thisn kiwi of ****. He had so much skills and came back home with no title but the champion of Burger King who sponsored the show says it all :fingersx:

I debate the first point - one judge had it a draw, two didn't, and Parker won. A judges interpretation of what they see can be one hell of a variable. But regarding gameplan... Everyone pretty much did as expected, Ruiz came forward looking to turn it into a short-handed scrap, whereas Parker kept distance and threw his jab at will. The fight really wasn't going to go any other way. I'm not too sure what you mean by "you have to fight to your strengths". Parker did exactly that - his jab and his foot movement are his strengths. The most likely way Ruiz could have beaten Parker was to turn it into a flurry-fest inside - why would Parker even give him the opportunity? That would be allowing his opponents strength. Parker could very well be overrated, absolutely. But for now, he's a champ and he's unbeaten with two good opponents on his record. AJ and Wilder combined, have 1. He's on the right track. In my opinion you have their strengths the wrong way around. Andy Ruiz is a technically more skillful boxer than Joseph Parker. I'm a big Parker fan but this is pretty obvious from watching all of their fights. Sure, neither has good defense, but Ruiz is much better in the way he figures out ways to control the jab, sneaks in combinations and gets his own jab off against taller guys. Parker's advantage in this fight was his physical size and strength. I disagree that he wasn't going to win in a slugfest. He's bigger and stronger than Andy Ruiz. A slugfest doesn't mean you have to be fighting on the inside. You can hit that mid-range that is Parker's absolute strength. Don't be stupid about things, but do aim to actually hit the guy. Parker barely threw a right hand. He should have, because his offense is his primary strength. RE: Parker's jab - it's really lucky that the judges were awarding points for that jab. It was barely ever touching Ruiz and most of the time he was controlling it. It was hardly ever effective. I could argue that Ruiz' jab was actually more effective, despite his reach and height disadvantage. Again, this fight could have gone either way in the judges eyes. It was absolutely a 50/50 call by the time the bell went. And I disagree that Parker is on the right track. He hasn't improved at all since the Takam fight. Finally, I'm not sure why you're bringing up Wilder and Joshua. Parker could very well beat both of them. I'm talking about his own skill level though, not interested in comparisons.

For all the chatter about Ruiz losing pounds (and good on him), the points above about Ruiz gassing out are pretty spot on. He looked cooked in the second half.

If the game plan results in one judge scoring it a draw, and you getting a narrow and extremely debatable points victory, something is wrong. That could be because Ruiz is genuinely very good, it could be because Parker didn't execute properly, it could be because the game plan is the wrong option, or it could be because of all of these. I tend to think it's a combination of the the above, but the major fault being in the game plan. You have to fight to your strengths. The other elephant in the room is that it could also be that Parker is just not very good. I debate the first point - one judge had it a draw, two didn't, and Parker won. A judges interpretation of what they see can be one hell of a variable. But regarding gameplan... Everyone pretty much did as expected, Ruiz came forward looking to turn it into a short-handed scrap, whereas Parker kept distance and threw his jab at will. The fight really wasn't going to go any other way. I'm not too sure what you mean by "you have to fight to your strengths". Parker did exactly that - his jab and his foot movement are his strengths. The most likely way Ruiz could have beaten Parker was to turn it into a flurry-fest inside - why would Parker even give him the opportunity? That would be allowing his opponents strength. Parker could very well be overrated, absolutely. But for now, he's a champ and he's unbeaten with two good opponents on his record. AJ and Wilder combined, have 1. He's on the right track.

I really wanted to re-watch this fight to see how a handful of fans came to the conclusion that Ruiz won this fight, so I gave it a go. Live, it seemed like Ruiz got the better of Parker when the distance was closed and he threw punches in bunches. At the time, I thought that's the only way he would have taken some rounds, but even then it wasn't enough. Looking back at those exchanges, it became quite clear that he landed less than I initially thought. A number of those 2nd, 3rd and fourth punches were glancing blows, worn on the shoulder, or rolled out of the way of. Even discounting those exchanges slightly on second viewing, Ruiz is well short of doing enough to win the fight. I get that people wanted to see more out of Parker, and it's disappointing we didn't (as fans) get anything more explosive. But the gameplan from Parker was pretty clear, and it worked. Ruiz tried his best but he couldn't put leather on Parker, and he had to eat jabs for 12 rounds just to get a few openings. There's a reason why Ruiz's face was a mess afterwards, and Parker barely had a scratch. It's been noted be a few people that Ruiz looked bloody awful in the locker room afterwards. People are confusing disappointment, with the genuine belief that Parker lost. If the game plan results in one judge scoring it a draw, and you getting a narrow and extremely debatable points victory, something is wrong. That could be because Ruiz is genuinely very good, it could be because Parker didn't execute properly, it could be because the game plan is the wrong option, or it could be because of all of these. I tend to think it's a combination of the the above, but the major fault being in the game plan. You have to fight to your strengths. The other elephant in the room is that it could also be that Parker is just not very good.

I had Parker winning after Round 5. Ruiz was gassed after Round 5 onward and didn't do much like he did in the early rounds. Every round was awarded to Parker after 5 when Ruiz looked tired already, Parker he moved a lot, kept the distance and boxed very smart. He landed cleaner and more accurate punching as well countering Ruiz when he tried to come on the inside I think Kevin Barry's strategy was to ware Ruiz down in the later rounds till he had no more stamina in the tank (hence a lot of body punching from Parker) and it seemed like it worked, though he was expecting a stoppage but that didn't happen

I thought Ruiz edged it. Either way is was an average fight between 2 very limited fighters Parkers biggest issue going forward is the he can no longer rely on being the bigger man and back peddling with an inconsistent jab. I honestly don't see a way he can beat Joshua, Klitschko or wilder with his average defence and non existent inside game considering he wIll have to fight like the smaller man going forward At the end of the day it's the same story as the Takam fight. If the guy puts his foot down a bit more, he beats Parker. It's not a good sign going forward, and forward is the way Parker will have to fight to win against these bigger guys

I really wanted to re-watch this fight to see how a handful of fans came to the conclusion that Ruiz won this fight, so I gave it a go. Live, it seemed like Ruiz got the better of Parker when the distance was closed and he threw punches in bunches. At the time, I thought that's the only way he would have taken some rounds, but even then it wasn't enough. Looking back at those exchanges, it became quite clear that he landed less than I initially thought. A number of those 2nd, 3rd and fourth punches were glancing blows, worn on the shoulder, or rolled out of the way of. Even discounting those exchanges slightly on second viewing, Ruiz is well short of doing enough to win the fight. I get that people wanted to see more out of Parker, and it's disappointing we didn't (as fans) get anything more explosive. But the gameplan from Parker was pretty clear, and it worked. Ruiz tried his best but he couldn't put leather on Parker, and he had to eat jabs for 12 rounds just to get a few openings. There's a reason why Ruiz's face was a mess afterwards, and Parker barely had a scratch. It's been noted be a few people that Ruiz looked bloody awful in the locker room afterwards. People are confusing disappointment, with the genuine belief that Parker lost.

Lol... Ruiz won this fight!! He was the better technician!

how in hell you say Parker looked faster than Ruiz when clearly Ruiz beat Parker in every single exchanged out landing him by 2 or 3 punches every time, clearly you were watching what you wanted to watch. the only thing parker did better than Ruiz was tha jab and even at that more than half of those jabs were caught by Ruiz's gloves. yeah and it must have been that non stop work rate of ruiz throwing punches all round long that won it right.:lame:

I had it 115-113 for Parker but this was no gimme. Ruiz git the better of every exchange they had in the ring. He took the early rounds & late rounds but he coasted in the middle rounds which cost him the fight. Ruiz did some nice countering & inside work but nit enough in the mid rounds. Good win for Parker & Ruiz need to drop another 15lbs at least. He showed he could throw 12 rounds. Parker showed a good jab at times but he got hit cleanly a lot & when he was lazy with his jab he got countered by a big straight right. Ruiz gave this fight away in those middle rounds. If he throws those lazy jabs against Wilder, Joshua or Klitschko he will be on his back. He seemed to fade late in both against Takam & Ruiz. Hughie Fury will get his shot next. Parker can win that one but I have it a 50/50 fight.

i thought the 2 judges scores were right on parker won by 2 points , yes parker should have had more offense output but he won give the kid credit hes only 24 and young and not used to big fight pressure yet , also he displayed very fast hands faster than ruiz who everyone thought was faster , his jab was good but should have been used even more and his movement was good , all the brits going on about how Joshua would destroy parker just remember Joshua has fought NOBODY just pushovers and bums his chin is still suspect until he fights a good contender ,at least parkers fought 2 quality fighters in ruiz and takam with rocks for chins who fought back , so don't assume anything about that matchup yet. how in hell you say Parker looked faster than Ruiz when clearly Ruiz beat Parker in every single exchanged out landing him by 2 or 3 punches every time, clearly you were watching what you wanted to watch. the only thing parker did better than Ruiz was tha jab and even at that more than half of those jabs were caught by Ruiz's gloves.

Yes it's more than obvious when the fight was in the balance Ruiz was more than content to sit there and save energy. As much as Chisora is an old warhorse that is on the other side he would have found a way to get the most out of his body down the stretch if he fought Parker in a similar scenario. Ps when a fighter is young and has these issues usually they can't overcome them and they fade away. His promoter all but gave up on him by signing to fight this fight in New Zealand. That speaks volumes on what "Bub" sees for the future of El Gordo Andy.

That's not what I meant. mlac said Parker should've fought on the inside in order to gain Ruiz's respect. I disagree because if Parker took the fight on the inside I believe Ruiz would KO him. you right everytime Parker got in the inside with the one two, Ruiz answered with a combination of 4 or 5 punches.

I thought Ruiz did enough to edge Parker. Boring fight it's a shame that this kid Ruiz refusses to dedicate himself to his own metabolize to build more stamina and add more speed. If he could take 8 months to train down to 235lbs with a special diet along with proper training he would beat guys like Parker by out hustling them. This kid feels he needs the bulk so he won't get moved around by guys at 245-55lbs but he sacrifices work load and willingness. He doesn't have the genetics of Parker or a Joshua but this is boxing you don't need to be a sculpted body. He'd be loose looking at 215lbs. At 230-35 this kid would cause problems for everyone out there. In his current condition he can't bring his mental game up to be able to begin to dominate or at least become more competitive. Ray

i thought the 2 judges scores were right on parker won by 2 points , yes parker should have had more offense output but he won give the kid credit hes only 24 and young and not used to big fight pressure yet , also he displayed very fast hands faster than ruiz who everyone thought was faster , his jab was good but should have been used even more and his movement was good , all the brits going on about how Joshua would destroy parker just remember Joshua has fought NOBODY just pushovers and bums his chin is still suspect until he fights a good contender ,at least parkers fought 2 quality fighters in ruiz and takam with rocks for chins who fought back , so don't assume anything about that matchup yet.