FOUR YEARS AGO: PAC vs JMM IV took place. KTFO!!COLD

I'm all for ending this discussion.

Stop with the I love Philippines talk lol You have been trolling for a few pages now. If you are a reasonable person, you would put a big question mark on Marquez. Deep down you know the truth. I'm not trolling. But, I'm unmoved by the so called evidence you present. What you put forth is speculation, based on unchallenged utterances made by who knows?? If you are a philAm, then you probably rarely go visit the PI. I go whenever I can. I got family there. It's a 5 hr trip from Tokyo.

Memo is a great conditioning coach, just like Ariza. Manny lost the KO power 7 years ago. PAC is younger than Marquez, and Floyd. Marquez was clean, so was Floyd. When PacRoid was on top, he was terrified of giving blood. They all cheat. If you doubt JMM tests, then you must doubt PAC's tests too. I wonder what was in those Ariza shakes. Robert Garcia didn't want to go into the details of why Ariza was sent Packing! PAC has a sub 60 percent KO ratio. Algieri, and others had no chance against PAC and PAC still couldn't get them out of their. PAC is your God! Maybe PAC did. Who knows, but I just don't see the transformation that Marquez had lol. I don't see bigger muscles or acne or more power and speed. PAC never appointed heredia a scum ped pusher.

Even if true, that doesn't mean he did the same with Marquez. Hahaha ok. Let's just end it here. Lol

Senator? What are his qualifications? What meaningful legislation has PAC drafted himself? The lumpia bill, to make sure every poor kid gets two lumpia in their school lunch? I love the Philippines, real Filipino people are super cool, and just trying to live. Lots of brain power that is being untapped. Luckily, this can't describe you. You are emotional, everyone else is a moron, and only your superior mind and deductive reasoning can get to the core issues in life. PAC is your God. Boxing started for you when PAC won a world title. Do you have your PAC Pajama set? How about the life sized PAC doll to comfort you at night? I bet you got the life sized PAC poster on your wall too! Man, your in PAC heaven! Good for you! Living the dream! Stop with the I love Philippines talk lol You have been trolling for a few pages now. If you are a reasonable person, you would put a big question mark on Marquez. Deep down you know the truth.

Vargas just insinuated in that video that heredia tried to give him peds. Did you even look at the video or you just have one thought pattern. Look at Marquez change under heredia, his acne, his ko power, his body lol. His own fighters exposing his dirt lol. You are truly a deluded nutlicker lol Even if true, that doesn't mean he did the same with Marquez.

I hav been watching boxing way before PAC. Roy jones and Hamed were my fave back in the day. And I never complained when morales beat PAC. Fighters lose lol. However Marquez is a blatant cheat hiring heredia, we all know this. Just look at the dudes record. Look at Marquez transformation. If you think he wasnt on peds then your the idiot. Memo is a great conditioning coach, just like Ariza. Manny lost the KO power 7 years ago. PAC is younger than Marquez, and Floyd. Marquez was clean, so was Floyd. When PacRoid was on top, he was terrified of giving blood. They all cheat. If you doubt JMM tests, then you must doubt PAC's tests too. I wonder what was in those Ariza shakes. Robert Garcia didn't want to go into the details of why Ariza was sent Packing! PAC has a sub 60 percent KO ratio. Algieri, and others had no chance against PAC and PAC still couldn't get them out of their. PAC is your God!

Senator? What are his qualifications? What meaningful legislation has PAC drafted himself? The lumpia bill, to make sure every poor kid gets two lumpia in their school lunch? I love the Philippines, real Filipino people are super cool, and just trying to live. Lots of brain power that is being untapped. Luckily, this can't describe you. You are emotional, everyone else is a moron, and only your superior mind and deductive reasoning can get to the core issues in life. PAC is your God. Boxing started for you when PAC won a world title. Do you have your PAC Pajama set? How about the life sized PAC doll to comfort you at night? I bet you got the life sized PAC poster on your wall too! Man, your in PAC heaven! Good for you! Living the dream! I hav been watching boxing way before PAC. Roy jones and Hamed were my fave back in the day. And I never complained when morales beat PAC. Fighters lose lol. However Marquez is a blatant cheat hiring heredia, we all know this. Just look at the dudes record. Look at Marquez transformation. If you think he wasnt on peds then your the idiot.

Evidence??? You've shown no such factual evidence. Speculation, yes, evidence, NO! None. Vargas just insinuated in that video that heredia tried to give him peds. Did you even look at the video or you just have one thought pattern. Look at Marquez change under heredia, his acne, his ko power, his body lol. His own fighters exposing his dirt lol. You are truly a deluded nutlicker lol

What are you talking about lol PAC is a senator helping his people and the poor. Marquez drinks piss to win. He hires known cheats and takes peds to win. Marquez had no morales. Senator? What are his qualifications? What meaningful legislation has PAC drafted himself? The lumpia bill, to make sure every poor kid gets two lumpia in their school lunch? I love the Philippines, real Filipino people are super cool, and just trying to live. Lots of brain power that is being untapped. Luckily, this can't describe you. You are emotional, everyone else is a moron, and only your superior mind and deductive reasoning can get to the core issues in life. PAC is your God. Boxing started for you when PAC won a world title. Do you have your PAC Pajama set? How about the life sized PAC doll to comfort you at night? I bet you got the life sized PAC poster on your wall too! Man, your in PAC heaven! Good for you! Living the dream!

It was a beautiful day indeed.:D It really was a beautiful day! Now, 4 years later, the PAC-A-Maniacs are still in pain and in excuse mode. This is comical.

He passed all the tests. I also am not some deluded kid who looks at Manny as an invincible superhero. He's a flawed boxer and guys like Mayweather and Marquez figured out how to exploit his flaws and beat him decisively in front of the world. Well said. PAC has his legion of fanatics and they refuse to believe PAC can be defeated. Floyd exposed even more of PAC's standard flaws, and beat PAC easily.

It was a beautiful day indeed.:D

I've shown you enough evidence that Marquez is a cheat. Continue to live a lie loser. Marquez your idol is a dirty cheat. Live with it. Evidence??? You've shown no such factual evidence. Speculation, yes, evidence, NO! None.

You cry better than PAC & Jinkee. Good for you my lil Filipino PAC t@rd. lol at you! I've shown you enough evidence that Marquez is a cheat. Continue to live a lie loser. Marquez your idol is a dirty cheat. Live with it.

What are you talking about lol PAC is a senator helping his people and the poor. Marquez drinks piss to win. He hires known cheats and takes peds to win. Marquez had no morales. You cry better than PAC & Jinkee. Good for you my lil Filipino PAC t@rd. lol at you!

Vargas on his split with heredia " I didn't want to take turns and curves, so I walked my own path" Even his own fighters spilling the beans.

He passed all the tests. I also am not some deluded kid who looks at Manny as an invincible superhero. He's a flawed boxer and guys like Mayweather and Marquez figured out how to exploit his flaws and beat him decisively in front of the world. I know manny has his flaws and he's been beaten before and after Marquez I have no problem with that. What I have a problem with is an obvious cheater in Marquez and people giving him a pass.

Even Jessie Vargas indicated memo tried to give him **** https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/3byypc/jessie_vargas_strongly_indicating_that_memo/